Kimmel returns Tuesday

[nomadcowatbk]

Nexstar is in the same barrel as Sinclair (see my post above: https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/kimmel-returns-tuesday.778080/post-6846363)

Their contract allows them a certain number of of pre-emptions and then they're in breach.

does that include the local OTA broadcasts of NFL games on ESPN (part of the Disney family)?

 

[nomadcowatbk]

This will hurt the Nexstar affiliates in blue states.

has it hurt Sinclair affiliates in blue states? I hear KOMO has taken hit under Sinclair

 

[michael hagerty]

does that include the local OTA broadcasts of NFL games on ESPN (part of the Disney family)?

Likely not. That would be a pre-emption dictated by the network, not chosen by the station.

 

[michael hagerty]

has it hurt Sinclair affiliates in blue states? I hear KOMO has taken hit under Sinclair

I don't know of anyone sharing overnight numbers for Seattle.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

What had been a hypothetical consequence came true with Jimmy Kimmel. The stakes are higher now. It's likely true that Ellison doesn't care all that much about linear TV,

not even sports?

 

[gr8oldies]

The only answer to this controversy is "Congress Shall Make No Law". We're begging the Government to let us watch a TV show. That's the post.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

Plenty of blue islands in red states thanks to gerrymandering.

they can't gerrymander counties or precincts

 

[K.M. Richards]

although they'll have to wait until 5am the next day for the episode to hit Hulu

Given the huge number of cancellations by Hulu subscribers over this, that may not matter as much as it used to. Again, there's always ABC's site, which requires no subscription (or even a login) to access.

 

[NoMoreLurking]

I have that user on "ignore".

Great idea! I forget about the "ignore" function. As seen on the "members" tab above, said user is the third most prolific on this site, so not only will we save time previously spent deciphering obtuse posts, things like blood pressure and sanity may improve.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

Nexstar is blocking paid content from its viewers. I’m paying carriage fees to watch.

then complain to your TV provider who pays the retrans fees

 

[gr8oldies]

I finally decided to see if I could be a clearinghouse for my local Indivisible because one more "Sinclair owns ABC and YouTube" post I had to debunk. It's not their fault. They shouldn't need to know all the network and corporate names

 

[K.M. Richards]

they can't gerrymander counties or precincts

Excuse me, but which "they" are you talking about, please?

This thread is complicated enough without having to guess which of the multitude of players you are referring to.

 

[nomadcowatbk]

Judging from the fact that when Big 5 affiliated stations preempt Prime Time programming for Local Sports it usually only 10 times a year, I would say probably about 10 times or 2 weeks.

mostly for NFL pre season and the local broadcasts of Thursday and Monday Night Games (only on ESPN nationally)

 

[gr8oldies]

We're not.

ABC is going to air the show tonight. Two private businesses, Sinclair and Nexstar, say they won't air it for their viewers. Past a certain number of pre-emptions, they're in breach of their affiliation contracts.

That's the post.

Correct. This shouldn't have gone down this road in the first place. Absolutely, Kimmel, Colbert, etc rise and fall on their own merits.

 

[Don CT]

then complain to your TV provider who pays the retrans fees

We pay it not the provider.

 

[radiofan2023]

I finally decided to see if I could be a clearinghouse for my local Indivisible

Can you ever leave the Indivisible group or not?

 

[gr8oldies]

has it hurt Sinclair affiliates in blue states? I hear KOMO has taken hit under Sinclair

You certainly don't think there isn't a sizeable portion of "blue" people in red states"?

 

[K.M. Richards]

then complain to your TV provider who pays the retrans fees

We pay it not the provider.

It's a trickle down effect, but Don is ultimately correct.

The stations demand negotiate their carriage with the service provider, which is usually in the form of a per-subscriber fee (although the network O&Os usually include mandated carriage of their other networks, which also often have a per-subscriber fee) and/or the carriage of the digital subchannels.

The service providers, logically enough, pass this through to the subscribers on the monthly bill.

So Don could complain, but the answer would be "this is what was negotiated for you to watch the channel in the first place". The service providers are the real hostages and the subscribers are the innocent bystanders who can do nothing about it.

 

[Bongwater]

Now the question is will Nexstar and Sinclair air it, or will Disney have to find other stations in those markets to air it instead.

More than anything else, it should be suicide for Sinclair/Nexstar.

I mean, seriously. They do know YouTube exists. Streaming? Don't they? HELLO??

This is the problem with corporate censorship in the 21st century. It's harder than it looks. Yes, they kept that filthy Kimmel off their precious affiliate's sanctified airwaves. They also kept viewers (95% with Internet access) off.

And with the unpredictablity of Nexstar/Sinclair of Whatever Offends Them Next on these Karen channels, ultimately advertisers. One corporation's filth is another's treasure. At the expense of the discarding conglomerate (as Disney board chairman M. Mouse acknowledged in an unverified statement on Monday.)

But more than anything else, nothing illustrates why broadcast network TV is obsolete more clearly than this.

What is wrong with Nexstar and Sinclair? Have they no clue of their precarious place in the modern video landscape they share?

This is 2025, not 1985.

 

[michael hagerty]

they can't gerrymander counties or precincts

Gerrymandering is quite literally the re-arrangement of counties and precincts to change the makeup of a congressional district.

For example, Sacramento County, where I live. There are three Congressional Districts for Sacramento County.

I live in the 3rd Congressional District of California. Ten years ago I lived in the same house. I was in the 7th Congressional District.