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KIRO FM so far

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spectacle

They would have done better to put KTTH on there instead. Horrible!

Mono FM, train wreck audio (was that what KIRO AM had been like in recent years? KIRO??!!!), just horrible so far.

KOMO has an opportunity to move to KPLZ and take them out early while they sound bad!

KIXI could do oldies and grab an extra listener.

Time to make it happen guys, don't let Seattle get boring or lazy again.
 
spectacle said:
They would have done better to put KTTH on there instead. Horrible!

Mono FM, train wreck audio (was that what KIRO AM had been like in recent years? KIRO??!!!), just horrible so far.
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Please tell us the what the technological difference would be to hear Rush on 97.3 versus Dave Ross.


spectacle said:
KOMO has an opportunity to move to KPLZ and take them out early while they sound bad!
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How does KOMO "take them out?" Please tell us, in detail, what the financial advantage would be to move KOMO onto 101.5. Also, please tell us what's wrong with 101.5 right now to necessitate a such a move.


spectacle said:
KIXI could do oldies and grab an extra listener.
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I actually agree with that.


spectacle said:
Time to make it happen guys, don't let Seattle get boring or lazy again.
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Your "ideas" consist of re-arranging things. No innovation or adding anything new or fresh to the market, other than moving existing programming onto another frequency and/or band. You do realize that, right?
 
Boring or lazy? Who cares! It's all about revenue.

Between the Mariners and the Seahawks, KIRO-AM now has a lock on Seattle sports. I stand by my prediction that KJR-AM will give up sports and flip back to its oldies heritage as Channel 95.

When KIRO is airing games, they have their existing talk hosts on KIRO-FM. Local FM talk is huge in many Top 50 markets. I forsee some tweaking of the FM offerings; I don't see them simulcasting forever.

Give it a chance people! Stations are still waiting to see how the KIRO flip will affect their ratings and revenue.
 
spectacle said:
Mono FM, train wreck audio
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I don't get this. In what way is the audio a "train wreck"? It is not overly processed. It is much more broadband than AM.

The spots and jingles sound low bit rate and sampling quality, but not that bad. What is bad about it? The frequency response is reasonably flat. It doesn't pump. It's not hard to hear or overly dynamic, so I do want to know what you don't like about it?
 
Why would anyone think that the Seattle market could support two full time full market sports talkers? this is a TWO PRO SPORT TOWN now... no better than Charlotte, Indy, Kansas City, or San Diego.

It makes no sense that KIRO would want a piece of KJR's 2 share.
 
People!
Yes, it is mono a very ugly sound indeed but really not bad if only they would update their sweepers, etc.
If the rumors are true and KIRO FM goes sports, then it makes sense that everyone hops into the old KBSG studio and start to broadcast in stereo. At least I hope it's the sports, ugh, Dori Monson in stereo would be ugly.
I don't think these guys are done making all of their moves yet, but if it takes too long for them to finish adjusting it could just sour everyone. If it takes forever then why blow up KBSG when they did??
Anyway, KIRO has both teams wrapped up and if they go for the gold, why not throw in MLS and everything Huskies. Should they be able to do this, WOW what a powerhouse, KJR will not have a prayer.
Only 2 questions, will they keep it local or be like ESPN sports that used to broadcast from the Clear Channel Studios? Nothing local there and mediocre. Most important, talent. KIRO has one chance to blow the competition, they have the teams now they just need the people. Will KIRO step up?
 
Correction,
It was Fox Sports not ESPN in the Clear Channel building. :-[
 
radiohead01 said:
Correction,
It was Fox Sports not ESPN in the Clear Channel building. :-[
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97.3 sounds like....ummm....KIRO?
 
First of all - KOMO will NEVER be heard on 101.5. Star makes a boatload of cash for Fisher.

As for KIRO-FM, yes they do need to get better sounding source audio (especially those poorly produced overly compressed Don O'Neil testimonial spots). But you're not going to get the "ball$ to the wall" sound that a music FM has on a talk station. The processing is just fine as it is.

By the way - if you want stereo - dial up the HD1 feed. They did shut off the analog delay, however, so when it switches from analog to digital - you'll hear audio being repeated, and will lose audio when the reverse happens.
 
SeattleRadioPro said:
By the way - if you want stereo - dial up the HD1 feed. They did shut off the analog delay, however, so when it switches from analog to digital - you'll hear audio being repeated, and will lose audio when the reverse happens.
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...and that *really* ticks me off! When they first launched on FM, the HD sounded a bit over-compressed, but they fixed that and it sounded *great*... then they killed the delay. I drive around the sound quite a bit and KIRO-FM with my radio in auto mode is now useless--get south of the bases and you start hearing double words & bad glitches--by Lacey it is completely unlistenable. When the delay was timed properly (and it was until just the other day), I couldn't tell the difference other than the multipath coming back here and there.

I see *no* reason to kill the delay--if it's because people really did complain that the FM was a few seconds behind the AM (which, other than a few people on this board joking I wouldn't expect)--I have a better solution--delay the AM too! The more interesting question would be if there are more people with HD Radios than those who bitch about the FM being behind the AM.

BTW, this is the topic that *finally* prodded me into creating an account--I've lurked around here since at least 2005. ;-)
 
I agree delaying the AM audio would be the more elegant solution to the delay issue between the AM signal and the Analog or HD FM signal. Wouldn’t it be better to have all your audio synced up during the simulcast period? It’s the difference between a band-aid that only shifts the problem versus finding a solution that works for all. Especially if your trying to migrate your listener to FM/HD
 
SeattleRadioPro said:
By the way - if you want stereo - dial up the HD1 feed. They did shut off the analog delay, however, so when it switches from analog to digital - you'll hear audio being repeated, and will lose audio when the reverse happens.
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The HD sounds great! Although the analog is not as bad as people are making it out to be.

As of 11:25 this mornings (which is when I checked) the sync between HD and analogue was seamless.
 
Seattleradiodude said:
As of 11:25 this mornings (which is when I checked) the sync between HD and analogue was seamless.
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Yes it's back in sync - and once again the AM is seven seconds ahead of the FM.

C'mon KIRO Engineering - get it together! If the analog FM feed is delayed it's easy to delay the AM feed too. Even if the delay is happening at Tiger Mountain.
 
I was listening to Dave Ross during the 2001 Nisqually quake. That was the longest eight seconds of my life, waiting for the delay to go through so I hear what was happening in the studio. By the time it did, Dave said to get under a desk, but by then the quake was over. D'oh! For this reason at least, news stations shouldn't have any further delays other than those required to keep the callers from saying boo and scaring the other listeners.
 
Also, you don't want to delay the Seahawks, either for those listening in the stadium or listening while watching on analog TV. Perhaps if the FM delay matches the digital TV delay, then they should stick with that. I've noticed some TV stations delay their analog signals to match the digital stream. Not that it will matter much past February. ;)
 
Here's a thought. Is it possible to combine the seven second delay with the delay necessary for HD, so that they would at least be in sync for the call-in shows? When it comes time to dump the delay, could they send a signal to mute the HD output before its delayed contents come out? Just something for you to shoot down. Ready... aim...
 
AAllen said:
Also, you don't want to delay the Seahawks, either for those listening in the stadium or listening while watching on analog TV. Perhaps if the FM delay matches the digital TV delay, then they should stick with that. I've noticed some TV stations delay their analog signals to match the digital stream. Not that it will matter much past February. ;)
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Doesn't matter now anyway for TV viewers. Most watch on cable/satellite and there's already delays that would make an un-delayed analog radio signal arrive *earlier* than the TV picture. As for the in-stadium listening, many teams put up a part 15 transmitter and tell fans to tune to a different frequency to hear the game broadcast.

AAllen said:
Here's a thought. Is it possible to combine the seven second delay with the delay necessary for HD, so that they would at least be in sync for the call-in shows? When it comes time to dump the delay, could they send a signal to mute the HD output before its delayed contents come out? Just something for you to shoot down. Ready... aim...
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Well since you asked...no, that's not possible. Profanity delay is "dumped" whenever there's - uh - profanity. It then is built back up, ready to be "dumped" again when needed. That's why profanity can't be used for the HD Radio delay.
 
Boring or lazy? Who cares! It's all about revenue.
That's true. Listen to the product out there.

Between the Mariners and the Seahawks, KIRO-AM now has a lock on Seattle sports.
Yup.

I stand by my prediction that KJR-AM will give up sports and flip back to its oldies heritage as Channel 95.
Not a chance......in hell

When KIRO is airing games, they have their existing talk hosts on KIRO-FM. Local FM talk is huge in many Top 50 markets.
Yup
 
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