Kiss Stinks!

[alex4490]

Are they really a true top-40 station, or they are just tryin got overcome the battle agianst the Killer B. C'mon play real top-40 and quiet the war agianst the two. B96 is better than Kiss-get that straight in your mind!! Fellow z100 in nyc for example, they are a pure tp-40 radio station!

 

[WhiteBoy13]

The thing with KISS FM is that they don't jump on songs quick enough or just don'y Play them at all. An example would be that they aren't playing Evanescense "Call Me When Your Sober", Snow Patrol "Chasing Cars", and Hinder "Lips Of An Angel". All of those songs are in the Top 10 or around the Top 10 On the charts.

 

[john77]

Are they really a true top-40 station, or they are just tryin got overcome the battle agianst the Killer B. C'mon play real top-40 and quiet the war agianst the two. B96 is better than Kiss-get that straight in your mind!! Fellow z100 in nyc for example, they are a pure tp-40 radio station!

We have the same problem here in L.A. with our KIIS, alex... they aren't top 40/CHR either in ANY way shape or form. Heck, at one point they were only playing 5 of the nation's top 11 songs... and they COMPLETELY missed the last 2 #1 CHR/Pop hits... not a single spin for either of them... Of course, if your name is Justin or Gwen you can expect a gazillion spins there no matter what the quality of the product is.

 

[confusedandmad2]

thats called radio, FOLKS!

 

[JeremyAndrews]

Are they really a true top-40 station, or they are just tryin got overcome the battle agianst the Killer B. C'mon play real top-40 and quiet the war agianst the two. B96 is better than Kiss-get that straight in your mind!! Fellow z100 in nyc for example, they are a pure tp-40 radio station!

I agree 100% but sadly, it seems to be working.

My only recommendation if you don't like it is XM or one of the many fine stations that stream online.

 

[Hamp]

To be honest, there really isn't a difference with CC's Kiss Top 40 stations whether you live in L.A, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas to name a few Kiss markets. They are pretty much programmed all the same with no individuality for the market it is in.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

To be honest, there really isn't a difference with CC's Kiss Top 40 stations whether you live in L.A, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas to name a few Kiss markets. They are pretty much programmed all the same with no individuality for the market it is in.

Musically, there's a difference.

 

[Countrykev]

Hamp,

To be honest, there really isn't a difference with CC's Kiss Top 40 stations whether you live in L.A, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas to name a few Kiss markets. They are pretty much programmed all the same with no individuality for the market it is in.

Dude...seriously. You need to do homework before you make accusations. CC does not push "national" playlists. Each market has the freedom to program to each market. If you looked at the top songs at Kiss Chicago and Kiss LA you'd notice there is a difference. I can tell you just by looking at MMR right now that Kiss Chicago's top 10 and LA's top 10 have only 4 songs in common. KKDM in Des Moines only shares 3 songs in the top 10 with both of them, and is way more rock leaning than either one. I could go on with more examples, but I think I've proved my point.

 

[Hamp]

Hamp,

To be honest, there really isn't a difference with CC's Kiss Top 40 stations whether you live in L.A, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas to name a few Kiss markets. They are pretty much programmed all the same with no individuality for the market it is in.

Dude...seriously. You need to do homework before you make accusations. CC does not push "national" playlists. Each market has the freedom to program to each market. If you looked at the top songs at Kiss Chicago and Kiss LA you'd notice there is a difference. I can tell you just by looking at MMR right now that Kiss Chicago's top 10 and LA's top 10 have only 4 songs in common. KKDM in Des Moines only shares 3 songs in the top 10 with both of them, and is way more rock leaning than either one. I could go on with more examples, but I think I've proved my point.

Here we go AGAIN!!! How do you know what I know? First off, I used to live in Phoenix and listened to Kiss 104.7 quite frequently. I have close friends that live in Southern California that listen to KISS 102.7 and I currently live in Chicago and very frequently listen to Kiss 103.5. Maybe a few of the specialty shows on each station are different (not by much). But OVERALL, Clear Channel programs the majority of their Top 40 the exact same (give or take a FEW songs).
If you STILL choose not to believe me, go to a few of the KISS station websites around the country and look at their recent playlists on the right hand side.
It is called consolidation!!!! So Countrykev, get off of my back please.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

www.kisschicago.com
www.channel955.com (The station I think WKSC is currently most like)
www.kzzp.com
www.kissfmcolorado.com (IMO the best of the CC Kiss stations musically)
www.997kissfm.com
www.1019kissfm.com (Complete with active rock overnights)
www.993kissfm.com
www.waks.com

 

[Countrykev]

Hamp,

I do know what you know. You said it in your post. Clear Channel programs all the stations the same. They push the same songs in all markets.

Problem is, Hamp, you never prove yourself. You don't give any substance to your claims. You have an opinion, and that's great. But you spout claims without any kind of support to back them up. In order to win an argument you have to have a good knowledge of what you're talking about and have evidence to support your claims. You always resort to then saying that whenever I disagree with you, I must work for for them or they're my friend.

I did, however, prove you wrong. I used a tool to do 3 minutes worth of research to show that CC stations are not programmed the same. Each market does extensive research IN THAT MARKET and determines the rotations. If you want to utilize Mediabase and see for yourself, sign up for an Allaccess.com account and see the free version. You'll see that I'm right. You don't have to live in the city or hear it from your friends, you can see the evidence for yourself online.

Top 40 stations across the country CC and not share many of the same songs, but they differ in rotations and how they are presented. For instance, KKDM in Des Moines as I mentioned, leans rock. Hinder's "Lips of An Angel" was number 1 with almost 100 spins. WKQI in Detroit doesn't even have it in their playlist. Very few other CC top 40 stations even have that in their top 10. WAKS Cleveland has Brooke Hogan's "About Us" playing over 100 spins a week. That song is getting only 45 a week at WKSC. 5 of KKDM's top 10 are rock songs, all 10 of WKSC's top 10 are rhythmic.

Shall I continue?

 

[Hamp]

Hamp,

I do know what you know. You said it in your post. Clear Channel programs all the stations the same. They push the same songs in all markets.

Problem is, Hamp, you never prove yourself. You don't give any substance to your claims. You have an opinion, and that's great. But you spout claims without any kind of support to back them up. In order to win an argument you have to have a good knowledge of what you're talking about and have evidence to support your claims. You always resort to then saying that whenever I disagree with you, I must work for for them or they're my friend.

I did, however, prove you wrong. I used a tool to do 3 minutes worth of research to show that CC stations are not programmed the same. Each market does extensive research IN THAT MARKET and determines the rotations. If you want to utilize Mediabase and see for yourself, sign up for an Allaccess.com account and see the free version. You'll see that I'm right. You don't have to live in the city or hear it from your friends, you can see the evidence for yourself online.

Top 40 stations across the country CC and not share many of the same songs, but they differ in rotations and how they are presented. For instance, KKDM in Des Moines as I mentioned, leans rock. Hinder's "Lips of An Angel" was number 1 with almost 100 spins. WKQI in Detroit doesn't even have it in their playlist. Very few other CC top 40 stations even have that in their top 10. WAKS Cleveland has Brooke Hogan's "About Us" playing over 100 spins a week. That song is getting only 45 a week at WKSC. 5 of KKDM's top 10 are rock songs, all 10 of WKSC's top 10 are rhythmic.

Shall I continue?

You didn't really prove anything. All you did was repeat some of what I just said.
What I am saying is this, when I said Clear Channel Top 40 stations don't really have individuality in their markets I am speaking of the OVERALL imaging and sound of the stations. I am NOT speaking of the number of times a song is rotated. There is a difference.
Did you not read my ENTIRE post? True enough a Brooke Hogan song may be getting more play in one market than another, but the point is the song is getting played IN BOTH MARKETS!!! I mentioned that give or take a few songs, the OVERALL sound is the same. If you paid attention to the radio business in the last few years, corporate entities don't truly serve the markets that they are in. Back in the day, when you went to a certain city, radio had a localized flavor. Nowdays it doesn't. MAYBE with the exception of the larger markets.
Countrykev, rather than being arrogant and always trying to be right, maybe you need to look at things from another perspective. I don't know what you have against me, but you need to get over yourself.

 

[Jay F]

Are they really a true top-40 station, or they are just tryin got overcome the battle agianst the Killer B. C'mon play real top-40 and quiet the war agianst the two. B96 is better than Kiss-get that straight in your mind!! Fellow z100 in nyc for example, they are a pure tp-40 radio station!

We have the same problem here in L.A. with our KIIS, alex... they aren't top 40/CHR either in ANY way shape or form. Heck, at one point they were only playing 5 of the nation's top 11 songs... and they COMPLETELY missed the last 2 #1 CHR/Pop hits... not a single spin for either of them... Of course, if your name is Justin or Gwen you can expect a gazillion spins there no matter what the quality of the product is.

Skipping out on big rock/pop songs is not a problem, it's a SOLUTION! Being in L.A you should know that KIIS was doing poorly in the ratings the past few years until they started skewing rhythmic and quit playing all that rock. In Chicago, B96 would have a huge lead over WKSC if Kiss played the big pop/rock hits. Because WKSC has the courage to resist them they are pratically tied with B96.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

Alright then flip to rhythmic CHR and get it over with. I hate it when CHR stations call themselfs "CHR" and do nothing but play rhythmic and screw all the rock hits.