This is what so many people don't understand. How is it that EMF gets all this money? People give it to them.
You don't think there are genres of music that could raise money the same way EMF does? You don't think music is salvation?
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This is what so many people don't understand. How is it that EMF gets all this money? People give it to them.
You don't think there are genres of music that could raise money the same way EMF does? You don't think music is salvation?
Or in this case, supplement a non-existent spotload.
This will be an interesting experiment that groups saddled with low, or no-rated AM stations may want to consider.
Take another station in the Seattle area; KVI. Their listeners are loyal 55+ white males who are pretty well off, and I bet willing to subsidize the echo machine at 570kHz. A funding source like this might allow a station otherwise doomed to carrying syndicated talk hosts, only to fade into obscurity, a way to support live hosts. If anything, it might buy a station some time. I'm sure some will say (myself included) direct listener funding for an AM station would amount to kicking the can down the road.
I agree with this both in a religious and secular context. I think Jazz is another format that could be done this way. It would be interesting what would happen to the commercial formats in this model. I would imagine that they would benefit as well from increased revenue from fewer stations slicing the pie.
You can hear listener-supported jazz right now in Seattle on KNKX.
Not the stream. If they got extra donations over and above what was required for broadcast royalties, then they could have a stream. However, listeners couldn't deduct the money on their taxes.
For the North Carolina station, they had already done this. There were very few commercials if any outside of the morning syndicated talk show and the network news at the top of the hour. They just couldn't sell the time.
But the music was great!
I think that faith-based listener support is a lot different from paying a monthly amount to hear Danny & The Juniors.
The question is whether nostalgia is as great a motivator as religious beliefs. Or, succinctly, is God a greater motivator than Danny & The Juniors?
You're right. Guilt, along with fear of going to Hell are missing motivators when lobbying to support a music format.
It took a while but I think I have a handle on the Contemporary Christian format relationship with listeners. The format is based mostly along the lines of hearing the songs they hear at church. The jocks include encouragement here and there in very general terms. The concept is the lyrics provide 'comfort'. The listener contributes to the station because they find comfort listening to the station and feel encouraged. Yes, doing 'God's Work' is a reason to contribute but most just do a monthly small amount because they are regular listeners. It's no fire and brimstone stuff.
That reminds me of a story from a friend in radio back in the early 60's. He was running what we called "the beggars" on Sunday morning (paid "send me money for a blessing"). He put one on, then went for coffee and a bathroom visit. He got back to the studio and all the phone lines were lit up on the phone and the disk was hung saying "...'ll go to hell... ''ll go to hell..." over and over and over.
The sermon, saying the unrepentant will go to hell, was stuck on that critical set of words.
It was the inside joke at the station for weeks, with every statement being answered with, "y'ul go to hell".
And the KLove folks supplement by online and telephone counseling, local gatherings and a bunch of other services to the faithful. They manage to create a sense of community.
I haven't been to church in a long time but I can say confidently that the last time I went, the music was definitely not a Christian version of Adult Contemporary!
I think there is a difference between the hymns of many Christian sects and Christian AC that is immense; KLove is not a church service on the radio, it's AC music to accompany more devout Christians in their daily tasks.
Stations like that don't provide me with comfort at all. To hear songs I hear at church (before the virus) I need to go to BBN but they don't play music all the time.
Ever since my church starting meeting in the parking lot, if I get there early and my car door is open (a problem that is easily solved) I hear "the songs they hear at church" and I don't want any part of that. When we're inside we don't have that. We have an organist. The service is on the radio as well if you can't hear, but I can hear fine with my car door open and sometimes if it's not. The button that opens the window is broken.
Danny and the Juniors are okay but what I want to hear is Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Perry Como, Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, Jack Jones, Roger Williams, Ferrante & Teicher, Bert Kaempfert, Herb Alpert, The Vogues, The Lettermen, Patsy Cline, Brenda Lee, Rosemary Clooney, Peggy Lee and Patti Page.
As I recall, initially anyways, it was mainly to KAHM and discourage the sudden influx of Sirius-XM Escapees who had flocked there en masse, overloading and crashing their streaming server and IT staff. Not so much for direct financial support, though it did have that side effect.
An aside, but I noticed their logo curiously resembles the tread pattern on my sandals.
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What type of church did you go to? I've been to three types of churches in my life. I was raised Catholic, and you definitely did not hear anything sung in church on the radio. I left for the Lutheran church down the street from the church I had been going to, and that was much more contemporary, but still only had a few songs I knew from the radio. The church I just left with the move was more a Pentacostal church, and I didn't know a lot of the music before coming, but that was because outside of camp, I was quite out of touch with what was hot in Christian music. Now though, if I turn on the Christian station especially Air1, I usually hear something I know from church within an hour.
Very true, though if I'm not mistaken, a lot of s older, and not the type you would have gotten on 98.9 before that went away.
Actually a lot of the jazz played on KNKX is current jazz performed by young, living musicians.
https://www.knkx.org/term/jazz-blues
Chacos, dude! They have that S-shaped line that runs the length.
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