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KJR dark during the Superbowl

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So KJR can't run the Westwood feed of the Superbowl due to the KIRO Exclusive. So why in the heck were they dark? Did engineering figure this would be a good time to do maintainence on the transmitter since everyone in the sports audience would be listening to KIRO. you'd think they would've at least run their regular ESPN feed. Anyone know what happened?
 
> So KJR can't run the Westwood feed of the Superbowl due to
> the KIRO Exclusive. So why in the heck were they dark? Did
> engineering figure this would be a good time to do
> maintainence on the transmitter since everyone in the sports
> audience would be listening to KIRO. you'd think they
> would've at least run their regular ESPN feed. Anyone know
> what happened?
>
From listening to KJR's online stream they werent totally dark they were giving top of the hour ID's. So Obiviously they wasted 4 hours of dead air minus said legal id's. My Guess they didnt run ESPN feed due to the fact that there would be talk of the super bowl on ESPN Radio
 
> > So KJR can't run the Westwood feed of the Superbowl due to
>
> > the KIRO Exclusive. So why in the heck were they dark? Did
>
> > engineering figure this would be a good time to do
> > maintainence on the transmitter since everyone in the
> sports
> > audience would be listening to KIRO. you'd think they
> > would've at least run their regular ESPN feed. Anyone know
>
> > what happened?
> >
> From listening to KJR's online stream they werent totally
> dark they were giving top of the hour ID's. So Obiviously
> they wasted 4 hours of dead air minus said legal id's. My
> Guess they didnt run ESPN feed due to the fact that there
> would be talk of the super bowl on ESPN Radio
>
While you may not air the superbowl, you can talk about it all you want. 4 hours of dead air on a Sunday afternoon...I wonder if any advertisers were billed for spots in that time period/
 
> > > So KJR can't run the Westwood feed of the Superbowl due
> to
> >
> > > the KIRO Exclusive. So why in the heck were they dark?
> Did
> >
> > > engineering figure this would be a good time to do
> > > maintainence on the transmitter since everyone in the
> > sports
> > > audience would be listening to KIRO. you'd think they
> > > would've at least run their regular ESPN feed. Anyone
> know
> >
> > > what happened?
> > >
> > From listening to KJR's online stream they werent totally
> > dark they were giving top of the hour ID's. So Obiviously
> > they wasted 4 hours of dead air minus said legal id's. My
> > Guess they didnt run ESPN feed due to the fact that there
> > would be talk of the super bowl on ESPN Radio
> >
> While you may not air the superbowl, you can talk about it
> all you want. 4 hours of dead air on a Sunday afternoon...I
> wonder if any advertisers were billed for spots in that time
> period/
>
This marks a dark day in Seattle radio programming. Is this what licensee of our public airwaves think they can do? Run dead air for pity points and try to right if off as a loss. Clear channel is clearly saying FU to the public at large. They could have donated airtime to Non-profits, aired creative PSA’s or public programming. They could have even highlighted their other Seattle properties. But obviously they don’t think they (their other Seattle properties) deserve airtime to listeners that might punch in and give them a try.

If they think so little of their airtime maybe they should just give the license up now. Also they were very inconsistent with the ID’s I timed 23 minutes of dead air before an ID or other audio announcement.

This type of programming defiantly deserves the FCC’s attention during license re-new time. How much money did they waist with zero modulation? Versus 125% modulation of public programming for 4 hours and plugs for their other Clear channel properties in the Seattle-Tacoma area which they did not do. They might have gotten some good press out of it. But I see nothing in the public interest in what KJR-AM and Clear channel did during the Supperbowl. The Seahawks gave a good game; they did not just roll over.

I guess the motto at KJR is, If the tough gets going just go roll over and go silent. Do they actually pay their PD. Does CC know what this Brain child is doing?
 
> This marks a dark day in Seattle radio programming. Is this
> what licensee of our public airwaves think they can do? Run
> dead air for pity points and try to right if off as a loss.
> Clear channel is clearly saying FU to the public at large.
> They could have donated airtime to Non-profits, aired
> creative PSA’s or public programming. They could have even
> highlighted their other Seattle properties. But obviously
> they don’t think they (their other Seattle properties)
> deserve airtime to listeners that might punch in and give
> them a try.

Oh please. Lan Roberts passing away was a dark day in Seattle radio. 11 KING going "Soft Rock and More," then to talk was a dark day. NOT this mumbo-jumbo you cite.

First, they can't "right" off a loss like that. And who would in their right mind want to buy a spot on a sports station that doesn't have the Super Bowl on?

Frankly, I don't think you really care about the airtime. It's your malcontent for Clear Channel is what's coming through here.

As for this coming around at license renewal time. Thanks for the laugh, that's a good one.
 
> > This marks a dark day in Seattle radio programming. Is
> this
> > what licensee of our public airwaves think they can do?
> Run
> > dead air for pity points and try to right if off as a
> loss.
> > Clear channel is clearly saying FU to the public at large.
>
> > They could have donated airtime to Non-profits, aired
> > creative PSA’s or public programming. They could have even
>
> > highlighted their other Seattle properties. But obviously
> > they don’t think they (their other Seattle properties)
> > deserve airtime to listeners that might punch in and give
> > them a try.
>
> Oh please. Lan Roberts passing away was a dark day in
> Seattle radio. 11 KING going "Soft Rock and More," then to
> talk was a dark day. NOT this mumbo-jumbo you cite.
>
> First, they can't "right" off a loss like that. And who
> would in their right mind want to buy a spot on a sports
> station that doesn't have the Super Bowl on?
>
> Frankly, I don't think you really care about the airtime.
> It's your malcontent for Clear Channel is what's coming
> through here.
>
> As for this coming around at license renewal time. Thanks
> for the laugh, that's a good one.
>
AQH you should understand the punch in punch out of listeners, no mater what the day or day part or format. People punch in and punch out, tune in tune out. Listeners during the average quarter hour (AQH). The KJR programming brain trust threw in the towel on so many levels it is a fine example of what not to do. Is this really the way to keep people positive about terrestrial radio? I think CC Seattle let terrestrial radio down a bit. Going silent how creative is that?

What other day parts of KJR’s programming are not actually worth airing. It doesn’t send the right message to advertisers.

The only positive maybe they wanted to weigh what it cost to run with modulation versus without. Like I said maybe they should just throw the license in now.

Your right they don’t pay me to keep them on the air so I guess I really don’t care about their airtime. But I wish they would make better use of it (air time) if they are going to leave the carrier on. To say it wasn’t even worth some type of public or charitable programming, to just remain silent, with carrier on was not totally in the publics interest for 4 hours. It might have served CC but not the public.

On the other hand maybe the rest of the Puget Sound stations should take note and just turn off when you think no one is listening or that programming task gets to tough. This would be the “green” thing to do (energy wise). Hey maybe we could get some government funding for this program. Or Non-programming, KJR may be onto something. What other stations would be better off silent?
 
It appears you are referring to KJR's webcast and not to its on-air signal. The NFL won't allow KJR, KIRO or anyone else to stream NFL games. NFL.com has an exclusive there. That appears to be why KJR was silent on the web. If it carried over to its on-air signal, that would be bogus. An interlude of NFL Films music would have been better. However, I do believe KJR did air the game locally.
 
Re: KJR dark during the Superbowl It was the over the air signal

> It appears you are referring to KJR's webcast and not to its
> on-air signal. The NFL won't allow KJR, KIRO or anyone else
> to stream NFL games. NFL.com has an exclusive there. That
> appears to be why KJR was silent on the web. If it carried
> over to its on-air signal, that would be bogus. An interlude
> of NFL Films music would have been better. However, I do
> believe KJR did air the game locally.
>
Sorry but it was the over the air signal I'm talking about. I began switching around while in the car during the half which I would assume a lot of people out for another beer run may have done also. Nothin but dead air on 950 am
 
Re: KJR dark during the Superbowl It was the over the air signal

> Nothin but dead air on 950 am

They played the first few refrains of the game- I thought for a few minutes they were going to broadcast the game then they cut in, made some remarks about the bogus rules that wouldn't allow them to air the game and invited listeners to tune back in when the game was over for full analysis & the best post-game show on radio. Then silence. I thought it was very novel and, yes, even creative. And with their loss of the Sonics, they were clearly positioning themselves as the ones to turn to for pre- and post-game analysis. They were acknowledging that they don't have the game itself, but showing that they are still the ones to turn to before and after. Smart.
 
Re: KJR dark during the Superbowl It was the over the air signal

> > Nothin but dead air on 950 am
>
> They played the first few refrains of the game- I thought
> for a few minutes they were going to broadcast the game then
> they cut in, made some remarks about the bogus rules that
> wouldn't allow them to air the game and invited listeners to
> tune back in when the game was over for full analysis & the
> best post-game show on radio. Then silence. I thought it was
> very novel and, yes, even creative. And with their loss of
> the Sonics, they were clearly positioning themselves as the
> ones to turn to for pre- and post-game analysis. They were
> acknowledging that they don't have the game itself, but
> showing that they are still the ones to turn to before and
> after. Smart.
>
I though this was a "Best of Sports radio KJR-am". 4 hours of dead air makes me never want to tune in again. KJR-am will now be the last station I tune in to from now on. You never sounded better KJR-am what a waste of a 50KW signal. Not Creative at all. Looks like KJR-am is going to have alot more dead air when the sonics leave. That is if they use this "creative programing" more. Next year should prove interesting will they go silent during each Mariners, Seahawks and Sonics game waiting for their listners to return after the game.

I think they should have run old KJR airchecks from the harbor Island days. That I would have stayed tunned to.
 
> It appears you are referring to KJR's webcast and not to its
> on-air signal. The NFL won't allow KJR, KIRO or anyone else
> to stream NFL games. NFL.com has an exclusive there. That
> appears to be why KJR was silent on the web. If it carried
> over to its on-air signal, that would be bogus. An interlude
> of NFL Films music would have been better. However, I do
> believe KJR did air the game locally.
>
KJR Couldnt legally broadcast the game since KIRO has exclusive rights as the home of the Seahawks.
 
Smart?

"And with their loss of the Sonics, they were clearly positioning themselves as the ones to turn to for pre- and post-game analysis. They were acknowledging that they don't have the game itself, but showing that they are still the ones to turn to before and after. Smart."

Smart? What about the listeners who tuned in for the next 3 1/2 hours? Dial in 30 seconds later and you wouldn't have known what was going on with KJR. What message did it send to everyone else? Answer: we're not on the air, don't turn to us. If rules permitted, it would have been smarter to loop a short post-game promo and play it over and over and over during the game. That way the message would have been exposed to more people.
 
Re: Smart.

> "And with their loss of the Sonics, they were clearly
> positioning themselves as the ones to turn to for pre- and
> post-game analysis. They were acknowledging that they don't
> have the game itself, but showing that they are still the
> ones to turn to before and after. Smart."
>
> Smart? What about the listeners who tuned in for the next 3
> 1/2 hours? Dial in 30 seconds later and you wouldn't have
> known what was going on with KJR. What message did it send
> to everyone else? Answer: we're not on the air, don't turn
> to us. If rules permitted, it would have been smarter to
> loop a short post-game promo and play it over and over and
> over during the game. That way the message would have been
> exposed to more people.
>
Sorry to be contrary, Large Mark. But from just a listener's standpoint, it was different, unexpected, kind of cool and something to talk about. KJR's spot at 950 on the dial is so well ingrained in people's minds that upon tuning in & hearing NOTHING it was clear that something rebellious was afoot. I tuned back in numerous times just to see if they had the guts to really put that much dead air on their waves. And I talked about it with several people. Sounds smart to me!

Sometimes it's best just to concede that you recognize nobody is going to be listening to you anyway and that whatever you do is irrelevant and kind of a joke. I still say "smart."
 
Re: Smart?

I just have to chuckle at this panicking about KJR-AM. While I know nobody in this thread has ever said anything about KJR's ratings, it has been talked about before here how KJR's ratings are meager and how do they pay the bills, etc.

Now, KJR going silent for four hours (or whatever it was) is right up there with the domestic spying political issue.

THere have been so many people complaining about this in the Op/Ed section of the Seattle Times. I even heard the FCC had to shut down their phone lines because so many complaints were coming in.
 
Re: Smart?

> I just have to chuckle at this panicking about KJR-AM.

Panicking? I think it's more marveling at what a stupid idea it was to have dead air for a few hours. Maybe they should try this at KIRO or KOMO, since it sure seems to have drawn a lot of attention to KJR.
 
Re: Smart?

> Panicking? I think it's more marveling at what a stupid
> idea it was to have dead air for a few hours. Maybe they
> should try this at KIRO or KOMO, since it sure seems to have
> drawn a lot of attention to KJR.

Attention on this board at least, nowhere else.
 
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