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KJR "sportsradio?"

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bigmouth1234

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Can KJR AM survive with just the Huskies?
Today's announcement has to have hurt.
And why the Sonics want to be on a frequency with lessor coverage makes me wonder about a lot of things.
 
> Can KJR AM survive with just the Huskies?
> Today's announcement has to have hurt.
> And why the Sonics want to be on a frequency with lessor
> coverage makes me wonder about a lot of things.
>

Doesn't make much sense, people are scratching their heads around the building, that's for sure. The actual coverage may be less with KTTH carrying the game, but how do they plan to make up for all the talent that surrounds the games at KJR? Locke, Woodward, Groz, Gas, Softy, etc.

I actually saw this on the wood-blog before I saw it here. She comments that it's a bad move on the Sonics part and I can't say I disagree. I really wonder what the Sonics were thinking.

Anyone here with the Sonics that's got the inside scoop?
 
Re: KJR "sportsradio?" conflicts

> > Can KJR AM survive with just the Huskies?
> > Today's announcement has to have hurt.
> > And why the Sonics want to be on a frequency with lessor
> > coverage makes me wonder about a lot of things.
> >
>
> Doesn't make much sense, people are scratching their heads
> around the building, that's for sure. The actual coverage
> may be less with KTTH carrying the game, but how do they
> plan to make up for all the talent that surrounds the games
> at KJR? Locke, Woodward, Groz, Gas, Softy, etc.
>
> I actually saw this on the wood-blog before I saw it here.
> She comments that it's a bad move on the Sonics part and I
> can't say I disagree. I really wonder what the Sonics were
> thinking.
>
> Anyone here with the Sonics that's got the inside scoop?
>
It's really about the conflicts. you have two powerful entities the University of Washington and the Sonics each having conflicts with the other and both feeling neglected by the affiliate. its also about more control. The teams are now completely controlling the sales inventory so the revenue stream is less to the station. When times are bad, it really drags down your margin so its not as profitable for the station. The basketball season is long and interest doesn't really heat up until the playoffs so there's a lot to be weighed. KJR does great with pre and post game shows for sports it doesn't have the rights to. They can profit from the success of whatever team is doing good with things like baseball's best post game show after each Mariners game without have to pay the rights fees, lose the inventory or be told what to do by the team.
 
> And why the Sonics want to be on a frequency with lessor
> coverage makes me wonder about a lot of things.
>
Entercom is probably counting on picking-up some extra Sonics Radio Network stations to help with coverage.<P ID="signature">______________
And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too</P>
 
> Doesn't make much sense, people are scratching their heads
> around the building, that's for sure. The actual coverage
> may be less with KTTH carrying the game, but how do they
> plan to make up for all the talent that surrounds the games
> at KJR? Locke, Woodward, Groz, Gas, Softy, etc.

Perhaps KTTH has plans for signal improvements. Either that, or The Sonics want more affiliate signals. Or The Sonics could be looking at purchasing KTTH, as professional sports franchises purchasing media outlets and running theoir own ship is the hot thing right now.

About "how can KJR survive?" -- they seemed to have survive during the whole "Refuse to Lose" 1995 Mariners, and they will thrive with this Seahawks thing.

KIRO does not have the ability to chat Xs and Os about Seahawks football, and if they did, they would abandon their core audience. KIRO's core audience either doesn't care about the Hawks or is in the "awwww, the Hawks are in the Super Bowl, isn't that cute" crowd.

Does anyone really think that Gregg Hersholt or Dave Ross are going to talk about the benefits of the dime defense or when the Hawks should use the play-action pass? And if they tried, do you think it would sound very good?

That's where KJR comes into play. As much as Mitch sounds like an idiot, people are going to turn to him over Gregg Hersholt to talk about Hawks.


> I actually saw this on the wood-blog before I saw it here.
> She comments that it's a bad move on the Sonics part and I
> can't say I disagree. I really wonder what the Sonics were
> thinking.

B-b-b-but the Sonics is owned by a big bad evil corporation, why is Lisa talking about it? Probably starving for attention.
 
>Perhaps KTTH has plans for signal improvements. Either that, or The Sonics >want more affiliate signals. Or The Sonics could be looking at purchasing >KTTH, as professional sports franchises purchasing media outlets and running
>their own ship is the hot thing right now.

>About "how can KJR survive?" -- they seemed to have survive during the >whole "Refuse to Lose" 1995 Mariners, and they will thrive with this Seahawks >thing.

But how, if they can't offer any game coverage? Just on pre and post game shows? Hardly enough to carry it if all the listeners are already over at KIRO.

>KIRO does not have the ability to chat Xs and Os about Seahawks football, and >if they did, they would abandon their core audience. KIRO's core audience >either doesn't care about the Hawks or is in the "awwww, the Hawks are in the
>Super Bowl, isn't that cute" crowd.

Possibly.

> Does anyone really think that Gregg Hersholt or Dave Ross
> are going to talk about the benefits of the dime defense or
> when the Hawks should use the play-action pass? And if they
> tried, do you think it would sound very good?
>
> That's where KJR comes into play. As much as Mitch sounds
> like an idiot, people are going to turn to him over Gregg
> Hersholt to talk about Hawks.

It's the same deal with the Sonics though. Who do you think KTTH can get to cover the Sonics the way KJR does? Do you think they'll recruit the KJR staff?

> B-b-b-but the Sonics is owned by a big bad evil corporation,
> why is Lisa talking about it? Probably starving for
> attention.

She claims she's a longtime fan.
 
> But how, if they can't offer any game coverage? Just on pre
> and post game shows? Hardly enough to carry it if all the
> listeners are already over at KIRO.

The listeners are over at KIRO for the PBP coverage. They do not automatically stay over there. KIRO, or any other station with professional sports PBP does their damndest through promos and tie-ins to promote the radio station. Sure, some people will be attracted to KIRO, but there are also people out there who doesn't care about them outside of Hawks coverage.

Again, KJR is the place to talk Hawks and the Super Bowl in-depth. Talking about injuries, specific plays and strategy. KIRO's coverage will include the 'softer' coverage such as ticket prices, stories about what people will do for SB tickets and the coverage of the inevitable bet between mayors.

KJR is the place for hard-core coverage, KIRO will be for the casual (some would say fariweather) Hawks fan.

>
> >KIRO does not have the ability to chat Xs and Os about
> Seahawks football, and >if they did, they would abandon
> their core audience. KIRO's core audience >either doesn't
> care about the Hawks or is in the "awwww, the Hawks are in
> the
> >Super Bowl, isn't that cute" crowd.
>
> Possibly.

See my prior paragraphs.



> It's the same deal with the Sonics though. Who do you think
> KTTH can get to cover the Sonics the way KJR does? Do you
> think they'll recruit the KJR staff?

I would bet that Jeff Aaron is making the drive from Everett to Eastlake Avenue to grovel for a position.

Sports (and news) are expensive formats to execute. Whether they hair KJR staff depends on what they want to do. KTTH might load up on a bunch of national talk shows (Dan Patrick, Jim Rome), or they could spend the bucks to get people like Dave Grosby and Mike Gastineau over to Eastlake. It would certainly help KTTH to get those guys if they want to topple KJR.

> > B-b-b-but the Sonics is owned by a big bad evil
> corporation,
> > why is Lisa talking about it? Probably starving for
> > attention.
>
> She claims she's a longtime fan.

She moved from Southern California to Seattle about five or six years ago. That's not a long-time fan to me.
 
>
> Perhaps KTTH has plans for signal improvements. Either
> that, or The Sonics want more affiliate signals. Or The
> Sonics could be looking at purchasing KTTH, as professional
> sports franchises purchasing media outlets and running
> theoir own ship is the hot thing right now.
>

That would be ironic. Isn't that how the Sonics ended up on KJR origonally? Didn't Barry Ackerley buy KJR so he could put his Sonics on it...or was it the other way around...he had the station so he bought the team for programming purposes. He owned KJR until he sold it to Clear Channel.

But no doubt, teams owning their stations is the rage. Don't get the math but what do I know?
 
> The listeners are over at KIRO for the PBP coverage. They
> do not automatically stay over there. KIRO, or any other
> station with professional sports PBP does their damndest
> through promos and tie-ins to promote the radio station.
> Sure, some people will be attracted to KIRO, but there are
> also people out there who doesn't care about them outside of
> Hawks coverage.
>
> Again, KJR is the place to talk Hawks and the Super Bowl
> in-depth. Talking about injuries, specific plays and
> strategy. KIRO's coverage will include the 'softer'
> coverage such as ticket prices, stories about what people
> will do for SB tickets and the coverage of the inevitable
> bet between mayors.
>
> KJR is the place for hard-core coverage, KIRO will be for
> the casual (some would say fariweather) Hawks fan.

That makes sense and is probably what will happen. Listen to the game on KIRO/KTTH and then flip to KJR. Will KJR offer Sonics post game still? What about Locke? Maybe he heads to KTTH to fill Calabro's shoes?

> I would bet that Jeff Aaron is making the drive from Everett
> to Eastlake Avenue to grovel for a position.

I had that same thought. He'd kill for that, I'm sure.

> Sports (and news) are expensive formats to execute. Whether
> they hair KJR staff depends on what they want to do. KTTH
> might load up on a bunch of national talk shows (Dan
> Patrick, Jim Rome), or they could spend the bucks to get
> people like Dave Grosby and Mike Gastineau over to Eastlake.
> It would certainly help KTTH to get those guys if they want
> to topple KJR.

But do you think they'll bail on KJR? They're pretty loyal to that station, from what I know.

> She moved from Southern California to Seattle about five or
> six years ago. That's not a long-time fan to me.

Not according to her.
 
Re: What about the Storm?

Since the Sonics and Storm are under the same umbrella, will KJR AM continue to broadcast Storm games?
 
Re: What about the Storm?

> Since the Sonics and Storm are under the same umbrella, will
> KJR AM continue to broadcast Storm games?
>
My guess would probly not be the only WNBA Teams that i know of that have different flagship stations not under the same umbrella at the Minnesota and New York teams
 
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