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KJZZ/Salt Lake City Scrubs Local Newscasts

This event is vastly overstated by B and C. The KJZZ newscast was basically a KUTV (CBS2) newscast that was reimaged for carriage on K-Jazz. It is NOT extremely rare for a station to drop newscasts that aren't produced in-house. I've seen indies do this quite a few times; sometimes they switch news providers, other times they drop the newscast altogether.

Nothing to see here, just an independent station deciding that it can generate more revenue with sitcom reruns than with the poorly rated KUTV News on K-Jazz at 9. It's not like they are blowing out a newsroom full of people. In fact, I doubt anyone even loses a job out of this.
 
Isn't KJZZ that six watt Jazz radio station that Lisa listens to on The Simpsons?
 
Lkeller said:
DToTheJ said:
Sorry... KJZZ-TV. ;D

The real KJZZ radio is an NPR affiliate in Phoenix. I assume they used to have a jazz music format, hence the call letters.

They still do at night. From 3 AM to 8 PM (I think), it's the usual NPR stuff with some local talk programming.
 
Larry Miller died in Feb 2009. KJZZ-TV is owned by a trust fund (48%), his widow (48%), and his sons (4%). The Utah Jazz is currently owned by his estate.
 
BRNout said:
This event is vastly overstated by B and C. The KJZZ newscast was basically a KUTV (CBS2) newscast that was reimaged for carriage on K-Jazz. It is NOT extremely rare for a station to drop newscasts that aren't produced in-house. I've seen indies do this quite a few times; sometimes they switch news providers, other times they drop the newscast altogether.

Nothing to see here, just an independent station deciding that it can generate more revenue with sitcom reruns than with the poorly rated KUTV News on K-Jazz at 9. It's not like they are blowing out a newsroom full of people. In fact, I doubt anyone even loses a job out of this.

True, but it did help KUTV image-wise. On the other hand, Bonneville's KSL (NBC), has owned the market for years.
 
BRNout said:
True, but it did help KUTV image-wise. On the other hand, Bonneville's KSL (NBC), has owned the market for years.

By a huge margin until recently, but KUTV has come very close lately.
 
benwolf said:
BRNout said:
True, but it did help KUTV image-wise. On the other hand, Bonneville's KSL (NBC), has owned the market for years.

By a huge margin until recently, but KUTV has come very close lately.

Probably to some degree due to the Leno fiasco...we'll see how it plays out. And, as DJtotheJ mentioned, KSL is one of the few NBC affiliates that chooses not to run Saturday Night Live. However, they do run SNL prime-time specials...kind of odd.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
Isn't KJZZ that six watt Jazz radio station that Lisa listens to on The Simpsons?

This is Moleman in the Morning...Good Moleman to youuuuuu.

Was that the kind of newscast that was cancelled? :)
 
M.J. said:
FreddyE1977 said:
Isn't KJZZ that six watt Jazz radio station that Lisa listens to on The Simpsons?

This is Moleman in the Morning...Good Moleman to youuuuuu.

Was that the kind of newscast that was cancelled? :)

Funny post, but a more serious answer...

SLC news has always been quite serious as opposed to frivilous. KSL set the standard. Others tried to add a little more "flash" or "entertainment value" into their product, but with KSL's success, SLC has always been a pretty serious news market. KUTV's (CBS) success recently was done with little flash, in fact, more of a relaxed version of KSL's serious style. The ABC affiliate has struggled, and if memory serves, let go many staffers a couple years ago. Even the Fox affiliate tends to stray away from sensationalism, and tries to live up to the market standard. SLC is an interesting TV news market. Very focused on conservative, family values as one might expect in this particular demographic/psychographic population.
 
searadiofreak said:
SLC news has always been quite serious as opposed to frivilous. KSL set the standard. Others tried to add a little more "flash" or "entertainment value" into their product, but with KSL's success, SLC has always been a pretty serious news market. KUTV's (CBS) success recently was done with little flash, in fact, more of a relaxed version of KSL's serious style. The ABC affiliate has struggled, and if memory serves, let go many staffers a couple years ago. Even the Fox affiliate tends to stray away from sensationalism, and tries to live up to the market standard. SLC is an interesting TV news market. Very focused on conservative, family values as one might expect in this particular demographic/psychographic population.

Good description, but too simplistic and stereotypical. I totally agree with you on KSL setting the standard. It's been that way for decades. KUTV has tried to challenge KSL for years and years now and has come close now and then, but never could topple KSL"s dominance. There was a period of time when KTVX (the ABC affiliate) made some inroads as well, but they have faded lately. As for Fox 13 (KSTU), they just keep chugging along.

If you watch all of the newscasts, there's no doubt you would come away with the impression that KSL is simply head and shoulders about the others. They always had the best equipment that money could buy and tended to get the best talent as well. When I worked in the market, it was well-known that most of the talent in town aspired to end up on channel 5.

With regard to your comments about 'conservative values' and so forth, that's where you wander off into stereotypes. If anything, the newscasts tend to differ from those you see in a place like Seattle or New York or Chicago because they spend more time on subjects involving youth (Salt Lake is a very young market with a lot of young families) and involving the outdoors. The latter point is particularly evident in sportscasts because this is a market where biking, hiking, fishing, camping, and hunting tend to be of a lot more interest than professional team sports (with the important exception of NBA basketball and the Jazz). Local college sports also get a lot of emphasis. All this makes sense given the area's relative isolation from other large markets.

You do see stories that make references to goings-on at the LDS Church, but this makes sense as the majority of the population is LDS and the church's worldwide headquarters is located in Salt Lake. As it is - by far - the largest corporate entity based in Utah, anything going on with it tends to make news. But, I'll also point out that you're far more apt to see conservative commentary and right-leaning newscasts coming from a market like Birmingham or Oklahoma City than you are from Salt Lake.

In the newsroom where I worked, there were a heck of a lot more democrats than republicans. Though everyone knows where KSL's management stands, they rarely flaunt their political opinions on newscasts. And, as far as KUTV, KTVX and KSTU are concerned, these stations are no more oriented to the political right than stations in a similar sized market like Hartford, Columbus or Kansas City.
 
BRNout said:
searadiofreak said:
SLC news has always been quite serious as opposed to frivilous. KSL set the standard. Others tried to add a little more "flash" or "entertainment value" into their product, but with KSL's success, SLC has always been a pretty serious news market. KUTV's (CBS) success recently was done with little flash, in fact, more of a relaxed version of KSL's serious style. The ABC affiliate has struggled, and if memory serves, let go many staffers a couple years ago. Even the Fox affiliate tends to stray away from sensationalism, and tries to live up to the market standard. SLC is an interesting TV news market. Very focused on conservative, family values as one might expect in this particular demographic/psychographic population.

Good description, but too simplistic and stereotypical. I totally agree with you on KSL setting the standard. It's been that way for decades. KUTV has tried to challenge KSL for years and years now and has come close now and then, but never could topple KSL"s dominance. There was a period of time when KTVX (the ABC affiliate) made some inroads as well, but they have faded lately. As for Fox 13 (KSTU), they just keep chugging along.

If you watch all of the newscasts, there's no doubt you would come away with the impression that KSL is simply head and shoulders about the others. They always had the best equipment that money could buy and tended to get the best talent as well. When I worked in the market, it was well-known that most of the talent in town aspired to end up on channel 5.

With regard to your comments about 'conservative values' and so forth, that's where you wander off into stereotypes. If anything, the newscasts tend to differ from those you see in a place like Seattle or New York or Chicago because they spend more time on subjects involving youth (Salt Lake is a very young market with a lot of young families) and involving the outdoors. The latter point is particularly evident in sportscasts because this is a market where biking, hiking, fishing, camping, and hunting tend to be of a lot more interest than professional team sports (with the important exception of NBA basketball and the Jazz). Local college sports also get a lot of emphasis. All this makes sense given the area's relative isolation from other large markets.

You do see stories that make references to goings-on at the LDS Church, but this makes sense as the majority of the population is LDS and the church's worldwide headquarters is located in Salt Lake. As it is - by far - the largest corporate entity based in Utah, anything going on with it tends to make news. But, I'll also point out that you're far more apt to see conservative commentary and right-leaning newscasts coming from a market like Birmingham or Oklahoma City than you are from Salt Lake.

In the newsroom where I worked, there were a heck of a lot more democrats than republicans. Though everyone knows where KSL's management stands, they rarely flaunt their political opinions on newscasts. And, as far as KUTV, KTVX and KSTU are concerned, these stations are no more oriented to the political right than stations in a similar sized market like Hartford, Columbus or Kansas City.

Simplistic and stereotypical. Well, I guess my comments could have been called worse. Let's take 'em one by one, (all in good fun, of course)...

Simplistic...important in any medium, especially the one I was trained in, radio.

Stereotypical...perhaps, but most stereotypes have a basis in fact.

I will agree, the outward presentation of political lean is hard to see in most SLC TV, but less so with KSL. But when you compare and contrast with similarly-sized markets around the country, the differences stand out more.

I respect the fact that you were an insider. I'm just an outsider media junkie. While my views are perhaps more in line with the average viewer, I appreciate your insights from the "inside".

As for the future, KSL should continue to dominate based on ownership, psychographics, and NBC improving their network performance. They have the resources, the smarts, and the ability to take technology and make it work for them. Too much to lose for this organization. Wouldn't want to be a competitor, frankly.
 
I just looked up my copy of "The Simpsons" and Lisa's radio station is KJAZZ which of course can't exist in the USA.

With a broadcast range of 23 feet it is supposedly making it the "most powerful jazz station in America" and a morning show hosted by Hans Moleman.

Now see this is how sad I am, I'd like to listen to "Moleman in the Morning." ;D
 
searadiofreak said:
Simplistic and stereotypical. Well, I guess my comments could have been called worse. Let's take 'em one by one, (all in good fun, of course)...

Simplistic...important in any medium, especially the one I was trained in, radio.

Stereotypical...perhaps, but most stereotypes have a basis in fact.

I will agree, the outward presentation of political lean is hard to see in most SLC TV, but less so with KSL. But when you compare and contrast with similarly-sized markets around the country, the differences stand out more.

My apologies if I came off too harshly. Reading the comment later in print, it had a different connotation than intended. ;)

I guess my meaning was that you seemed to be making a few too many assumptions based on the perceived political and cultural lean of the market (and that's changing faster than I ever would have thought).

With respect to your comments about KSL, you're right. Bonneville Communications has basically split their operation into 2 divisions: KSL-TV-AM-FM and everything else. They run pretty much ALL of their stations well (for example, look at their cluster in Chicago) and pay special attention to KSL. This is a station that's their pride and joy and which is able to avail itself of the best technology and talent available. Not to mention the 'heritage factor' that all Utahns are familiar with. Though that last comment can be a double-edged sword as I've met people who absolutely refuse to EVER watch KSL's news. However, this represents a minority point of view.

One thing to remember about any given newsroom in Salt Lake: you still have mainly out-of-area ownership (KSL excepted) and a lot of people working in them who are from somewhere else. But, if I had to point out a different flavor in newscasts there, it'd be a heavy dose of youth/family oriented reports and more coverage of 'outdoor' sports like biking, hiking, running, hunting, fishing, etc. than you'd ever see in New York, Chicago or even LA. Plenty of specialty shows are locally produced that follow those themes as well. It's a market with a very physically active "outdoorsy" population.
 
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