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KKDD not airing legal ID

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pianoplayer88key

I didn't see a board for Inland Empire, so I'm posting this here, as L.A. is geographically closest...
I've been visiting San Bearnardino / Loma Linda yestersay and today. In listening to 1290 KKDD San Bernardino, I can't recall hearing a legal TOH ID even once. I also remember not hearing IDs a few weeks ago when I was in the area listening to the station. I don't think calling 877-870-5678 would get me anywhere, but is there a way to let them know? Also is not airing an ID grounds for losing a license? I definitely want them to sttay on, as I like the programming, and they're the only station with that format I can receive in So Cal that hasn't limited their analog bandwidth to 5 kHz, like KDIS and KMIK (probably on average the strongest skywave signal where I live) have done.
 
There have been a lot of threads on this board and other boards about stations not complying with the letter of the law on top-of-the-hour legal IDs, though I don't remember mention of a station that failed to do the TOH ID at all...however non-regulation it may be.

But the impression I'm left with is: even if the FCC notices it (or somebody complains), at the most, this would merit a slap-on-the-wrist notification to start complying.

The chance that the FCC would independently notice non-compliance in an AM station in the IE - probably close to 0%.
 
Not to mention, I don't think I've heard top-hour IDs for KKDD's sisters KDIF and KTDD either. Only their FM sisters (KGGI, KMYT, KTMQ) ID though. But you think anyone in the IE actually knows that those AMs exist though?
 
Lkeller said:
There have been a lot of threads on this board and other boards about stations not complying with the letter of the law on top-of-the-hour legal IDs, though I don't remember mention of a station that failed to do the TOH ID at all...however non-regulation it may be.
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Of course, we all call this the "top of the hour ID" because, first there used to be a "bottom of the hour ID." And then, because the remaining ID had to be within 2 minutes, plus or minus of the hour, we kept the name.

Now, the ID just has to be "close" (whatever "close" means) to the top of the hour in a "natural break" (whatever that, too, is) in programming. So, if a station thinks that the break is at :45, then, I guess, it is. But it sure is not the top of the hour any more...
 
Daytimers are also supposed to ID at sign off and sign on but I've heard lots of them who don't. Sloppy operating and nobody cares.
 
Mike Sheridan said:
Daytimers are also supposed to ID at sign off and sign on but I've heard lots of them who don't. Sloppy operating and nobody cares.
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The few times I've listened to them at that time, I've heard KBRT do an elaborate ID at afternoon signoff. (They do have a 113-watt nighttime license, but choose not to use it.) Their ID includes, among other things, the owner, city of license, transmitter location (Catalina Island), transmitter power ("ten thousand watts"), frequency, callsign, although not necessarily in that order.
Recently one time, though, I did hear them just shut off their transmitter without any type of ID at all. They had somehow left it on well past sunset (it was probably around 8:30 or 9pm, dark enough to see most of the stars that were going to be visible that night, and sunset I think was around 7 or 7:15 at the latest), and right in the middle of a program, the signal just disappeared.
As for natural breaks in the programming... I wonder what the rule would be for how to ID when they're broadcasting some live event that goes a few hours with NO breaks long enough for even a callsign and city of license?
 
tfcwings said:
As for natural breaks in the programming... I wonder what the rule would be for how to ID when they're broadcasting some live event that goes a few hours with NO breaks long enough for even a callsign and city of license?
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Even in the strictest years of ID requirements, classical stations insisted that a symphony had no natural breaks, and even the pauses between movements were part of the symphony as a whole and could not be interrupted... so you could easily go 90 minutes with no ID... some cases, even longer.
 
Mike Sheridan said:
Daytimers are also supposed to ID at sign off and sign on but I've heard lots of them who don't. Sloppy operating and nobody cares.
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Welcome to the lumberyard at 64th St. & Thomas in Scottsdale, AZ. ;)
 
Update.... I was there the past couple days again, and they are airing it now... it usually goes something like "Radio Disney, K-K-D-D, AM 12-90, San Bernardino, Riverside."
 
tfcwings said:
Update.... I was there the past couple days again, and they are airing it now... it usually goes something like "Radio Disney, K-K-D-D, AM 12-90, San Bernardino, Riverside."
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Radio Disney is pretty much 24/7 Network except for the ability to insert local ads (and ids) likely the automation computer for it locked up or didn't load log properly which prevented the legal id from airing.

I wouldn't be suprised if KKDD is nothing more than a computer in a equip rack, I doubt they have a full fledge studio.
 
This has to be the most attention this station has ever gotten...
 
musicfan101 said:
This has to be the most attention this station has ever gotten...
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Good point, you think kids in the IE know this station actually exists? Or are they listening to KDIS 1110? Or do kids even know that Radio Disney exists?
 
I'm shocked Radio Disney is still around! How is that possible?! :eek:
 
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