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KKOL 1300 simulcasting 1590

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While scanning the dial last night while driving, I noticed 1300 had conservative talk on rather than the Spanish simulcast from 1680. Listening closer this morning, they were simulcasting 1590 "The Answer" instead, complete with 1590 traffic reports and IDs. I assume this is a temporary solution now that Salem's bought back this station?
 
Both are probably to keep the license active while they try and come up with KKOL's new plans.
 
crainbebo said:
Both are probably to keep the license active while they try and come up with KKOL's new plans.
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§ 73.3556 Duplication of programming on commonly owned or time brokered stations.
(a) No commercial AM or FM radio station shall operate so as to devote more than 25 percent of the total hours in its average broadcast week to programs that duplicate those of any station in the same service (AM or FM) which is commonly owned or with which it has a time brokerage agreement if the principal community contours (predicted or measured 5 mV/m groundwave for AM stations and predicted 3.16 mV/m for FM stations) of the stations overlap and the overlap constitutes more than 50 percent of the total principal community contour service area of either station.

(b) For purposes of this section, duplication means the broadcasting of identical programs within any 24 hour period.
 
I also heard 1590's programming on 1300 earlier this evening. I sort of doubt that Salem is going to get 'the knock' over it, though ("the knock", apparently pirate radio parlance for an unexpected visit by the FCC).
 
Kelly A said:
§ 73.3556 Duplication of programming on commonly owned or time brokered stations.
(a) No commercial AM or FM radio station shall operate so as to devote more than 25 percent of the total hours in its average broadcast week to programs that duplicate those of any station in the same service (AM or FM) which is commonly owned or with which it has a time brokerage agreement if the principal community contours (predicted or measured 5 mV/m groundwave for AM stations and predicted 3.16 mV/m for FM stations) of the stations overlap and the overlap constitutes more than 50 percent of the total principal community contour service area of either station.

(b) For purposes of this section, duplication means the broadcasting of identical programs within any 24 hour period.
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No longer in the rulebook, as of last year...

www.fcc.gov

FCC Eliminates the Duplication Rule for AM and FM Radio Stations

The Commission adopted a Report and Order eliminating the radio programming duplication rule with regard to AM and FM stations
www.fcc.gov www.fcc.gov
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Shock and awe.. Kelly A got something wrong.. I thought he or she was such an expert:)
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All of us occasionally get something wrong. That's why Scott Fybush is my official proof reader!

Kelly is one of the very best engineers. But a lot of use are not 100% up to date on the parts of the rules that don't affect the sort of things we do each day. How many of us want to have an AM? And how many of use want to have two and need to know if they can simulcast all of the time?
 
This one snuck up on a lot of us, including me. It only came to my attention a few months ago when planning an upcoming change, and it solved a problem for us. I will still put Kelly at the top of the accuracy list, especially when dealing with the many totally-uninformed out there.
 
Kelly is a top-notch engineer, and I agree that this particular rules change was a quiet one that wasn't going to get noticed unless someone had a specific reason to care about it.

No need for any snark about it, imo. We're all better when we can all learn from each other.
 
Kelly A said:
§ 73.3556 Duplication of programming on commonly owned or time brokered stations.
(a) No commercial AM or FM radio station shall operate so as to devote more than 25 percent of the total hours in its average broadcast week to programs that duplicate those of any station in the same service (AM or FM) which is commonly owned or with which it has a time brokerage agreement if the principal community contours (predicted or measured 5 mV/m groundwave for AM stations and predicted 3.16 mV/m for FM stations) of the stations overlap and the overlap constitutes more than 50 percent of the total principal community contour service area of either station.

(b) For purposes of this section, duplication means the broadcasting of identical programs within any 24 hour period.
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How long was this in effect? Because I remember 1300, 1090 and 106.1 all simulcasting KMPS together in March/April 1996 for a few weeks once 106.1/1090 were bought by KMPS's then owners.

25 years ago, yes. But still a footnote....
 
Kelly A said:
§ 73.3556 Duplication of programming on commonly owned or time brokered stations.
(a) No commercial AM or FM radio station shall operate so as to devote more than 25 percent of the total hours in its average broadcast week to programs that duplicate those of any station in the same service (AM or FM) which is commonly owned or with which it has a time brokerage agreement if the principal community contours (predicted or measured 5 mV/m groundwave for AM stations and predicted 3.16 mV/m for FM stations) of the stations overlap and the overlap constitutes more than 50 percent of the total principal community contour service area of either station.

(b) For purposes of this section, duplication means the broadcasting of identical programs within any 24 hour period.
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There are apparently more holes in that rule than in a sieve
 
Bongwater said:
How long was this in effect? Because I remember 1300, 1090 and 106.1 all simulcasting KMPS together in March/April 1996 for a few weeks once 106.1/1090 were bought by KMPS's then owners.

25 years ago, yes. But still a footnote....
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It's my understanding that stations could apply for a waiver of this rule for up to 30 days for such purposes as moving a format. Something similar happened in St. Lewis a few months ago.
 
bobdavcav said:
It's my understanding that stations could apply for a waiver of this rule for up to 30 days for such purposes as moving a format. Something similar happened in St. Lewis a few months ago.
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Spelling of St. Louis aside, you're correct. You could get waivers fairly easily if the signal contours didn’t perform as well in the real world as they did on paper, served different markets, or were temporarily simulcasting to move programming.

Midwest Family applied for a waiver when it moved KOSP from 105.1 to 92.9 about 10 years ago. The simulcast lasted a little over two weeks.
 
fybush said:
No longer in the rulebook, as of last year...
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How many of us remember when we bought a subscription to a looseleaf notebook version of the FCC rules frrom the US Printing Office, and we got updates every time a rule changed that we carefully inserted, replacing the old pages?

I am trying to remember if having the printed version of the rules was a licensee requirement just like having all operator's licenses posted along with the EBS "secret envelope" and other permits.

A great communications law resource is: Communications Law Research
 
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