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KLIF 1985 Question.

Hey Guys:

I see from Mike Shannon's site that when KLIF was country it also had a talk format too? When was this in 1985 and did it run NBC Talknet at night before going all talk in 1986?

Thanks
T.J.
 
KLIF 1190 for some part of 1985 (Don't remember if it was all year or just toward the end of it.) played Country music during the day (promoting the NBC Talknet shows during almost every break.) At 6pm they went to NBC Talknet. The first show was Bruce Williams followed by Sally Jesse Rafael, not sure what after that (I would've been at KTNS doing my job by the time her show went off.) But they were Talknet until about 5am.
In January of 86 KLIF went Talk 24/7.
 
This was Susquehanna's attempt to go head-to-head with Country on 820. They even hired Bill Mack and Don Harris from BAP to attempt the futile effort. Because I had been in the market since Marconi was a child a Susquehanna big shot from York, PA once asked me what I thought and I told the truth. After that we never became close friends but he later admitted that I was right. I had explained that the 1190 signal, even daytime, was weak compared to 820 and was no contest at night. It wasn't long before 1190 went talk. I was later asked by the same person as to what I considered was a 'good' AM signal in DFW for KLIF. In my opinion there was only four. However 660 had never been a big draw, Metromedia would never turn loose of 1080 and Capp Cities wouldn't relinquish 820 (I think they were then the owner). That left only 570 which had also had it's problems through the years getting an audience to go that far left on the dial.

There had always been insider talk that, for whatever reason(s), the DFW audience was fickle and would never listen to any station below 820 or above 1190. KBOX 1480 came the closest to competing with 1190 in the 60's but never once beat them (according to Irene Runnels). Since then the Ticket has surprised some old timers with their measured success on the old WRR frequency at 1310.

For years most successful DFW FM frequencies were centered between 96.3 and 104.5. When 106.1 (formerly KDNT-FM) upgraded and started becoming popular that dispelled that old thinking but 92.5 has always had a cloud hanging over it.

Besides Susquehanna was actually a pottery company (Pfaltzgraff) and did not have deep enough pockets to even consider 820 or 1080... They did make great plates and saucers.
 
unclepudd said:
Besides Susquehanna was actually a pottery company (Pfaltzgraff) and did not have deep enough pockets to even consider 820 or 1080... They did make great plates and saucers.

You're right, and it reminds me of what I overheard after Susquehanna bought KLIF and KLPX. One of their executives said they were convinced that 1190 would be the big moneymaker of the two.
 
You also are correct. Another little known tidbit is that when Crawford purchased 1040 he had an option on KIXL FM but turned it down since 'AM is where the money is'. Truth be known he didn't have near the money for the FM and this was only a face saving comment. Think what a mess of could have made of a 100KW FM signal.
 
Hey Guys:

Thanks for the info. I thought it was NBC TALKNET. I am curious about the exact date if anybody knows. Or did it come gradually like WNBC in New York from what I remember.

I wanted to ask this off topic here: WRR 1310 went all talk May 1, 1974, I saw this on KNUS99 site and wanted to find out was it an contemp oldies station before or MOR/Stds.

Thanks

T.J.
 
t.j. said:
I wanted to ask this off topic here: WRR 1310 went all talk May 1, 1974, I saw this on KNUS99 site and wanted to find out was it an contemp oldies station before or MOR/Stds.

Thanks

T.J.

My recollection is that it was MOR.
 
;D I don't think there are any piano playing morning hosts in this market today....I remember that guy when discussions of 1310 KAAM appear.
 
The WRR 1310 format (before it went news) was what we once called 'hodgepodge' a little of this and a little of that as long as you didn't go too far. For many years the 'Library of Laughs' aired each hour at :45. Joe McChesney was PD and Bill Howell was ND after Bill Nicholson disappeared. Jim Lowe left at the end of '73. Ed Routt became Manager after Durward Tucker retired at age 119 and shorty after wards it switched to News/Talk with sights set on WFAA-570.
 
unclepudd said:
after Durward Tucker retired at age 119

Now that's funny. I'm inclined to think you threw that in to see if anybody was paying attention!

You and a lot of other folks here probably already know this, but it seems like a good time for a couple of notes about Jim Lowe (or Ol' Jim Lowe as he commonly called himself). He not only did morning drive on WRR but also produced the nightly programs "Blues Caravan" at 10:00 P.M. and "Cat's Caravan" at 11. Both were great shows. And of course, for many years at State Fair time he was the voice of Big Tex. Howwwwdy, folks!
 
unclepudd said:
The WRR 1310 format ...... For many years the 'Library of Laughs' aired each hour at :45.

Hadn't thought about that in awhile.....my parents would change the radio to 1310 when it got close to 45 past the hour.
 
As an 8th grader, I recall the name Joe McChesney as the morning guy at KXXK FM playing "Music for Groovy Grown Ups", so I presume he landed at WRR after KXXK became KOAX (Coax your friends to listen to Coax).

I noticed WRR evolving as the 1970s started. While MOR was gasping for air, it seemed WRR was attempting to become more AC. I remember hearing Riders On The Storm by The Doors and such substituted for the usual crooners. I'm sure most MORs were in the same boat, but WRR's evolution seemed a bit more like a major format tweek.

I'd say Library of Laughts at :45 past every hour was their claim to fame in showing up consistently as the #3 station in Dallas. As a high schooler I pondered how WRR would fare with more of a KVIL approach to music with Library of Laughs, retaining the same air talent.
 
Your memory serves you well. Jim's biggest pride was the 'Cats Caravan" and something he will be forever remembered. He would not allow anyone to work his morning shift. He only agreed to retire when he did due to being allowed to choose the person to take his shift because it was someone he liked and trusted.

Jim took something like 6 sick days in 23 years. He once almost died in a motorcycle accident but showed up the next morning wearing a body cast from the waist up. He was a tough cookie who didn't make close friends easily BUT if he liked you then you were a friend for life.

In the old PULSE and HOOPER ratings a station got a possible 3 points. One each if a respondent could (1) name the call letters, (2) name the frequency and (3) name the announcer. WRR always did well because Jim had been there for so long that almost everyone had heard of him and remembered his name.

That is why Gordon was smart enough to call his stations KLIF, KILT, KABL, XTRA, etc.. KTSA was a story all it's own. That disaster bit McLendon in the butt long before many on this site were born and one that he would never talk about.
 
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