Yeah hope so too. Even though I don't listen to them, I like the fact they've been on the air for several decades now. Btw, nice to see you posting here again, been a long time.
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KLOS Sold - Now it's a Fact!
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Yeah hope so too. Even though I don't listen to them, I like the fact they've been on the air for several decades now. Btw, nice to see you posting here again, been a long time.
Why would KLOS be considered the last rock station standing? There are KROQ, KYSR and of course KCSN and its simulcast partner in the OC.
Your friends must not get out much. Pantry is an LA icon owned by former mayor Riordan that is only one block away from Staples Center.
KROQ and KYSR do not play classic rock, they are alt rock formats. As much as I love KCSN, they do not count. Their lack of signal and lack of heritage and the fact that classic rock is only a portion of their format invalidates them from inclusion. The stations that do count are KMET, KLOS, KLSX, Arrow 93 and The Sound (and maybe KQLZ "Pirate Radio" just for fun) are your participants in this category. Even if KLOS goes away next week, they still won. 50 years in one format is the definition of success.
I'm guessing that unless you are someone who goes to downtown frequently, you'd likely not know it. During one period of about 6 years I must have gone to nearly 1,000 remotes and street promotions and knew LA almost as well as a Thomas Guide... but never was in the "big building" area of downtown more than twice... once in a court case and once for a dinner. It just was not an area I'd go to intentionally.
The OP on this subject said "last rock station standing". They did not say "last classic rock station standing". All the others mentioned are also rock stations.
The quote: "Originally Posted by scooty430: Hoping KLOS lasts. Truly a miracle and the last rock station standing!"
So you are saying that KCSN is not a rock station. Gawd.
"Rock" is a genre that includes AOR, classic rock, progressive rock, alternative rock, active rock, AAA and probably a few I left out. The genre includes things like Indie and KNAC and KCSN, KROQ, KYSR, 107.1 in its Y-107 Alt Rock days and definitely Pirate Radio.
Rock is rock. The thing that is killing rock as a viable radio format has been the balkanization of the music. The more the audience for the music divides, the less viable the genre is as a radio format. With less money in rock music, there's less investment from the record labels, less promotion, and less chance for the new music to get radio airplay. Whenever you talk about music on the radio, the first thing to look at is the music. So the question to ask is what was going on in the music when a radio format flipped.
After I posted this, I saw a great article in today's LA Times about Coachella:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...5-rock-dead-20190420-story.html#nt=oft-Double Chain~Flex Feature~~coachella-6p~~1~yes-art~curated~curatedpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1BsSVneV4M
This year's Coachella festival got people talking about the current state of rock music. Dead or not dead?
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/news-opinion/personally-speaking-rock-n-roll-2767587
Downtown (now called DTLA) is in something of a renaissance. A lot new, but a lot built on the history of places like The Original Pantry, Clifton’s, Cole’s, Phillipe’s and others that have been in business 100 years or more. It’s a very different place than it was even ten years ago, and well worth exploring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abOKZG42gG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrXc2axjjrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67aWAtWBFY4
KLOS released some videos on the stations history prior to Meruelo ownership.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrXc2axjjrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67aWAtWBFY4
KLOS released some videos on the stations history prior to Meruelo ownership.
I think there is a cultural divide here. I am nearly 100% involved in the Hispanic community, and other than an occasional concert at the Staples Center, downtown is not a subject of much conversation or interest. I don't recall ever doing a remote, event or promotion any closer to DTLA than the Placita Olvera, which kinda' explains why I don't know about anything else.
One of the two times I went... anecdote alert... was for jury duty. The parking they gave me was a number of blocks away and it was all uphill to the courthouse. I can't do steep inclines, and did not make it. I contacted them, but was issued a warrant! It cost about a kilobuck to get a doctor's certificate and stuff to prove that I could not have made it on time. So much for my belief in the criminal justice system in LA.
What this does show is how divided into separate communities, groups and interests big cities are today. There may be some hidden intelligence about how this has affected talk radio, but I am not a good enough sociologist to take this to a conclusion.
I keep seeing posts on here that KDAY resonates better with Latino and African-American audiences than KLOS.
Here's a fun one for you: I'm a 34 year-old male. Super duper white kid who grew up in Salt Lake City.
My presets?
* Real 92.3
* 93.5 KDAY
* Power 106
* Alt 98.7
* KFI (for Handel -- to hell with J&K)
Do not underestimate how big 90s/2000s "Dad Rap" is with those in my demo. Among us white guys in our mid-30s: Tupac, Biggie, and Jay Z are our generation's Stones, Pink Floyd, and Van Halen.
I almost *never* listen to KLOS. While I'm always sad to see a radio legend go, I would certainly listen to KDAY a LOT on 95.5.
Here's a fun one for you: I'm a 34 year-old male. Super duper white kid who grew up in Salt Lake City.
My presets?
* Real 92.3
* 93.5 KDAY
* Power 106
* Alt 98.7
* KFI (for Handel -- to hell with J&K)
Do not underestimate how big 90s/2000s "Dad Rap" is with those in my demo. Among us white guys in our mid-30s: Tupac, Biggie, and Jay Z are our generation's Stones, Pink Floyd, and Van Halen.
I almost *never* listen to KLOS. While I'm always sad to see a radio legend go, I would certainly listen to KDAY a LOT on 95.5.
You remind me of a 30-something I worked with in the early years of this decade. He was white, suburban, politically conservative -- evangelical Christian to boot -- yet loved rap, especially the early stuff from the late '80s and early '90s. Rock wasn't even "dad's music" to him; it was the music of people who were old enough to be his grandfather.
Some time ago but still relevant, I was at a Halloween/fall/hayride party in suburban Dayton, Ohio shortly after one of the stations flipped to hip hop & R&B. Teenagers were in attendance and this crowd couldn't have been any whiter if it drenched itself in white house paint. The new hip hop station was blasting.
As it was with rock and roll and R&B (let's not forget that Chuck Berry and Little Richard were there in the beginning with Elvis and Buddy Holly)---it's not racial, it's generational.
Same argument could be made with jazz 100 years ago, too. Yes, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong and Count Basie were black. That didn't make what they created "music for blacks".
I agree, and radio in the early days appealed to younger white kids by playing the harder R&B and blues songs, often late at night. That's what launched rock radio, in Memphis, Cleveland, and other places.
I've forgotten about Jury Duty in San Francisco Municipal Court not once, but twice. You have to call this recorded number or go online - for a week - to see if you are called to serve. I'm always chosen on Thursday, 2 days after I've forgotten all about it.
The first time, I thought they'd put out a bench warrant, so I called the jury duty office to mea culpa and apologize. The person who answered just laughed - said they didn't put out warrants. That didn't motivate me not to screw up the second time.
I remember reading something that said as much in 1993 there were only 112 hip hop stations. There are far more today.
I am missing the point here. You are unaware of what the Pantry is even though it is one of the most iconic and historical restaurants in LA near one of its biggest entertainment complexes (Staples Center/AEG complex). You couldn't get to jury duty at the courthouse on Bunker Hill because you were unable walk up the hill on foot (the assumption here is that a cab, Uber, or even the Anglel's' Flight must not have been available) which now is some sort of indictment of our justice system and this somehow leads to a hidden intelligence affecting talk radio (on a thread presumably about rock station KLOS). Sorry but you have now strayed well into Art Bell territory.
Yup. No Hispanic presence in DTLA. lol
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