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KLOS Sold - Now it's a Fact!

34james said:
They took out all 80's and 70's from the playlist.
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NOTE: mostly true but they did have some exceptions--

Played earlier today on KCAL-FM:
Foxey Lady
The Jimi Hendrix Experience;

Kashmir
Led Zeppelin;

Welcome to the Jungle
Guns N' Roses
1:48 PM;


Blitzkrieg Bop
Ramones ;
They even played Johnny Cash's cover of "Hurt"
Just finished playing-
Paint It Black
The Rolling Stones ;
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This is not a bad playlist (KLOS if you're still around take note?)
 
ChannelFlipper said:
19th place in demo in the I.E.? Ouch. (Actually I think to be considered fully in demo, you would have to break out by gender since it is obviously a male format).
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In the first 3 books of this year, they averaged 14th in men 25-54.

From June to October of last year, they averaged 6th in 25-54 men, but then in November and up to now, they fell to around 14th on average. It looks like they did something towards the end of last year that had a negative effect.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
I believe he has some management duties there as well, maybe even PD. Being PD is an excellent way to keep your own airshift, if you can pull it off.
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Daryl Norsell is listed as the PD.
 
boombox4 said:
As pertains to rock specifically, how much of an influence on exposure to new rock music was MTV? It seems half of the discussions I've had, or read, on various music threads (FB or YT primarily), the music fans mention being introduced to a new artist via a music video on MTV, as opposed to hearing it on the radio.

As we all know, MTV is no longer at the center of music promotion. I don't even know if they still have music videos, or if they have ratings. But during the time period between 1981 and probably 2004, I think they had pull. One of their request programs supposedly affected music sales as late as 2001.
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Yes in some cities there was a local edition of MTV and VH1 in the 1990's

https://www.cmc-tv.com/video/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Music_Channel

Its California Music Channel it aired on KTSF-TV San Francisco in the 1990's at its height it was the local edition of TRL though and had some influence over songs that were trending in the Bay Area though. Im not sure if other cities have their version of CMC though?
 
there won't be any format changes until Alex owns KLOS and KXOS. It still going in the process. So by summer we should know something about KXOS.
 
RadioPatrol said:
Yes in some cities there was a local edition of MTV and VH1 in the 1990's

https://www.cmc-tv.com/video/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Music_Channel

Its California Music Channel it aired on KTSF-TV San Francisco in the 1990's at its height it was the local edition of TRL though and had some influence over songs that were trending in the Bay Area though. Im not sure if other cities have their version of CMC though?
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Boston had a memorable local music video channel, WVJV, Channel 66, complete with local VJs. Ownership sold the station to the Home Shopping Network in under 2 years.
 
34james said:
there won't be any format changes until Alex owns KLOS and KXOS. It still going in the process. So by summer we should know something about KXOS.
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KLOS is already under an LMA. An LMA holder can make any changes they want, unless the contract says otherwise.

KXOS' owner advised the staff of the sale, but there is still no formal announcement or FCC filing. That one is kind of in the "vaporware" stage right now.
 
Anyone know how the KLOS morning drive show (Frosty, Heidi and Frank) is doing in the ratings? Is this an area Meruelo may want to overhaul?

Also seems that between Jonesy, Check One…Two and a weekly recurring features on FHF, KLOS is doing quite a bit to expose their listeners to new artists. I have heard that many current KLOS employees worked at Indie 103.1 back in the day, both in management and sales.

The thing is that KLOS doesn't really seem like the place to expose listeners to new alternative rock artists, when there's three other stations (KYSR, KROQ and KCSN) that could play the lead on this, especially if their audience is a bit older.

One more note I'd like to add: KLOS DOES sponsor concerts throughout LA/OC featuring up-and-coming rock bands. One that comes to mind recently was a show from LA group The Buttertones that was held in Huntington Beach. I absolutely think KLOS is doing more than other stations to support new artists, but in other ways than just offering airplay.
 
radiojomo said:
Anyone know how the KLOS morning drive show (Frosty, Heidi and Frank) is doing in the ratings? Is this an area Meruelo may want to overhaul?
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The average is around 14th to 15th in 25-54, going back over the last 10 books.

In the rock area, KYSR and KROQ are slightly ahead, but also generally in the 10th to 15th area. On a rolling average, KROQ beats KYSR, but not in the last two months. And neither is generally a top 10 station in the demo.
 
radiojomo said:
I think this board is a bit much like the average rock demo - whiter and older ;)
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It quit mattering a long time ago. SiriusXM has made local radio more or less irrelevant. It is now over 80% of my total listening. Did I mention zero commercials on the music channels?

Always remember, unless you are paying the charge, you are NOT the customer. I gladly pay the satellite fee and they have to be directly responsible to subscribers like me. Local radio only provides the illusion that you the listener are the customer - you are not. Kars for Kids and all of your other hated advertisers are.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
It quit mattering a long time ago. SiriusXM has made local radio more or less irrelevant. It is now over 80% of my total listening. Did I mention zero commercials on the music channels?

Always remember, unless you are paying the charge, you are NOT the customer. I gladly pay the satellite fee and they have to be directly responsible to subscribers like me. Local radio only provides the illusion that you the listener are the customer - you are not. Kars for Kids and all of your other hated advertisers are.
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Well, ChannelFlipper, it made it more or less irrelevant for you. I'd argue that SiriusXM is a long way from making local radio irrelevant for most.
 
michael hagerty said:
Well, ChannelFlipper, it made it more or less irrelevant for you. I'd argue that SiriusXM is a long way from making local radio irrelevant for most.
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With only 30 million or so subscribers (some of which are not people at all, but activated radios sitting in unsold cars on dealer lots), the math would indicate that, at most, SiriusXM is beinlg listened to by only 5 percent or so of the available listeners in any given market. The remainder aren't subscribers, and even a good number of subscribers still use conventional radio at times.
 
radiojomo said:
I think this board is a bit much like the average rock demo - whiter and older ;)
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I think you're spot on with that. I fit the stereotype too, except I've accepted the evidence that's been before my eyes (and ears) since the late '90s and understand fully why radio is turning the page on rock.
 
michael hagerty said:
Well, ChannelFlipper, it made it more or less irrelevant for you. I'd argue that SiriusXM is a long way from making local radio irrelevant for most.
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One of the things I can count on year in and year out on this board is the animus directed at satellite radio or frankly any other medium that is not heard on the AM/FM dial whenever it is brought up. I admit that I like rock radio. Since I was told earlier on this thread that "rock is rock" and there should be no difference paid to the actual type of rock music played, I did a comparison. Local rock radio comprises of KCBS-FM, KLOS, KRTH (Rock/Pop blend), KYSR, KROQ, and KCSN - six stations in total, all of which have narrow playlists and high commercial load, except for KCSN. KCSN does have a large playlist and few commercials, but can only be heard in the most specific of locales.

Sirius has (count 'em!) 23 channels devoted exclusively to rock music in one form or another, all with broader playlists than local radio can support and no commercials. This count doesn't even include the channels that are pop/rock mixes such as the five decades channels and the PopRocks channel, nor does it include the online-only channels such as Yacht Rock and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (which can easily be played via the phone if one were so inclined).

But I am told that this is a niche product and the local broadcasters needn't worry about it as competition.
 
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