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how many times must I say it changes need to be made at klos
Jack clearly beat klos in the ratings
people are tired of the mark and brian
jim ladd plays obscure music that nobody cares about , he needs to expand his playlist other than pink floyd and bob dylan
gary moore should be the odd man out his unhappines of not playing led zepplin 24 hours is starting to show in his voice
what more do I need to say
Rita Wilde should be held accountable , Im sure she is a nice woman but busines is business.....
Jack proves people wanna hear music and don't care for the morning zoo zany disc jockey

later
 
Paul, if you were an actual D.J., instead of an Arm Chair Consultant, what could we expect from your Act, Morning, Noon, or Night?
> Jack proves people wanna hear music and don't care for the
> morning zoo zany disc jockey
>
> later
>
 
> jim ladd plays obscure music that nobody cares about , he
> needs to expand his playlist other than pink floyd and bob
> dylan
>>
Hi,

My son (age 25) thinks that Jim Ladd is the only DJ worth listening to on the radio in LA. He goes out of his way to lsiten to the Jim Ladd show.

John

P.S. He likes Indie but not any of the DJs.
 
> how many times must I say it changes need to be made at
> klos
> Jack clearly beat klos in the ratings
> people are tired of the mark and brian
> jim ladd plays obscure music that nobody cares about , he
> needs to expand his playlist other than pink floyd and bob
> dylan
> gary moore should be the odd man out his unhappines of not
> playing led zepplin 24 hours is starting to show in his
> voice
> what more do I need to say
> Rita Wilde should be held accountable , Im sure she is a
> nice woman but busines is business.....
> Jack proves people wanna hear music and don't care for the
> morning zoo zany disc jockey
>
> later
>



I remember David Eduardo and others on this board saying that it was not wise for KLOS to attack or give any attention to Jack. Do you think this has anything to do with the fact that KLOS didn't get a post-Arrow bounce? Did mentioning Jack make some of the KLOS core curious as to what Jack-FM was all about?
 
> Paul, if you were an actual D.J., instead of an Arm Chair
> Consultant, what could we expect from your Act, Morning,
> Noon, or Night?
> > Jack proves people wanna hear music and don't care for the
>
> > morning zoo zany disc jockey
> >
> > later
> >
>

KLOS didn't lose anything because of Jack. They just didn't gain. We can't say that about K-Earth and KROQ.

So the problem for KLOS is the Arrow listener was probably more apt to stick with Jack than switch to KLOS.

As for KLOS, it is sounding much better post Jack hitting the airwaves. Mark & Brian are tired but still play well to its core. As for Jim Ladd, he's really tired as is his obscure music. This station needs consistency.

Jack is going to add personalities so to think of the jukebox that it is today as what it will always be is short-sighted.
 
Mark & Brian are tired but still play well to
> its core.

I never got it about M&B.... You have to listen soooooo long for them to get to the punchline. Their act IS getting old.

As for Jim Ladd, he's really tired as is his
> obscure music. This station needs consistency.

I agree about the consistency, but what's obscure about The Doors, Pink Floyd, The Stones, Jimi, Led Zep, Tom Petty, Aerosmith, and Rush? Sure, from time to time Jim Ladd will play a few choice nuggets from these acts, but why not play some lesser played artists such as Porcupine Tree (he used to play them), Ian Brown (former lead of the Stone Poneys), Tragically Hip, The Shins, Dandy Warhols, Nick Cave, Doves, Sonic Youth, Thievery Corporation, and Camper van Beethoven to name just ... a ... few. Sure during Headsets he'll play Radiohead and Kula Shaker, but the rest of his show is just SOS. Yep, you are right, he IS tired.
 
> Mark & Brian are tired but still play well to
> > its core.
>
> I never got it about M&B.... You have to listen soooooo long
> for them to get to the punchline. Their act IS getting old.
>
>
> As for Jim Ladd, he's really tired as is his
> > obscure music. This station needs consistency.
>
> I agree about the consistency, but what's obscure about The
> Doors, Pink Floyd, The Stones, Jimi, Led Zep, Tom Petty,
> Aerosmith, and Rush? Sure, from time to time Jim Ladd will
> play a few choice nuggets from these acts, but why not play
> some lesser played artists such as Porcupine Tree (he used
> to play them), Ian Brown (former lead of the Stone Poneys),
> Tragically Hip, The Shins, Dandy Warhols, Nick Cave, Doves,
> Sonic Youth, Thievery Corporation, and Camper van Beethoven
> to name just ... a ... few. Sure during Headsets he'll play
> Radiohead and Kula Shaker, but the rest of his show is just
> SOS. Yep, you are right, he IS tired.
>

Ladd plays obsure non-hit cuts from those artists. You can't just throw an artist name out without mentioning the actual playlist of songs. Most of the rest of KLOS is not unlike Arrow was playing - mostly rock hits and album rock hits. Ladd also talks too much and is stuck in the 1960's. He's tired and the male demos that adverstisers want is about to leave him behind.

KLOS is second worst to K-Earth in that it will need to reinvent itself YOUNGER in the not to distant future or face falling revenue.
 
> Ladd plays obsure non-hit cuts from those artists. You can't
> just throw an artist name out without mentioning the actual
> playlist of songs. Most of the rest of KLOS is not unlike
> Arrow was playing mostly rock hits and album rock hits. Ladd
> also talks too much and is stuck in the 1960's. He's tired
> and the male demo adverstisers want is about to leave him
> behind. KLOS is second worst to K-Earth in that it will need
> to reinvent itself YOUNGER in the not to distant future or
> face falling revenue.
>
Glenn, I guess the point I was trying to make was even if the song is not familiar, you can recognize Jim Morrison if you hear him right?
Good point about the younger demo. BTW how important is the 10 pm - 2 am listening audience to advertisers? I know Ladd plays spots even during the 1 am hour, but most of my clients do NOT prefer to be aired after 7 pm even if it costs them less.
 
> > Ladd plays obsure non-hit cuts from those artists. You
> can't
> > just throw an artist name out without mentioning the
> actual
> > playlist of songs. Most of the rest of KLOS is not unlike
> > Arrow was playing mostly rock hits and album rock hits.
> Ladd
> > also talks too much and is stuck in the 1960's. He's tired
>
> > and the male demo adverstisers want is about to leave him
> > behind. KLOS is second worst to K-Earth in that it will
> need
> > to reinvent itself YOUNGER in the not to distant future or
>
> > face falling revenue.
> >
> Glenn, I guess the point I was trying to make was even if
> the song is not familiar, you can recognize Jim Morrison if
> you hear him right?
> Good point about the younger demo. BTW how important is the
> 10 pm - 2 am listening audience to advertisers? I know Ladd
> plays spots even during the 1 am hour, but most of my
> clients do NOT prefer to be aired after 7 pm even if it
> costs them less.
>

It's not about the advertisers, it's about station sales. Every dollar earned is important. 7 PM, 3 AM or 7 AM.

You know evenings (7P to 12 mid or 1 AM) are the 4th most important daypart of the day.
 
> It's not about the advertisers, it's about station sales.
> Every dollar earned is important. 7 PM, 3 AM or 7 AM.
>
> You know evenings (7P to 12 mid or 1 AM) are the 4th most
> important daypart of the day.
>

LOL!!! You're right about 7 pm- 12 mid...I wish my clients would understand that better!!
 
> > It's not about the advertisers, it's about station sales.
> > Every dollar earned is important. 7 PM, 3 AM or 7 AM.
> >
> > You know evenings (7P to 12 mid or 1 AM) are the 4th most
> > important daypart of the day.
> >
>
> LOL!!! You're right about 7 pm- 12 mid...I wish my clients
> would understand that better!!

Has it occured to you armchair quarterbacks that Rita Wilde is not going to replace Jim Ladd, no matter what the two (three, including the polliwog) of you think?

Are Ladd's numbers off this book? Are Ladd's numbers off KLOS as a whole?

Ladd is nothing more than a target for bitterness as far as you're concerned. And "the fourth most important daypart" (out of five, BTW) means Rita can let Ladd loose without worrying too much.

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> > > It's not about the advertisers, it's about station
> sales.
> > > Every dollar earned is important. 7 PM, 3 AM or 7 AM.
> > >
> > > You know evenings (7P to 12 mid or 1 AM) are the 4th
> most
> > > important daypart of the day.
> > >
> >
> > LOL!!! You're right about 7 pm- 12 mid...I wish my clients
>
> > would understand that better!!
>
> Has it occured to you armchair quarterbacks that Rita Wilde
> is not going to replace Jim Ladd, no matter what the two
> (three, including the polliwog) of you think?
>
> Are Ladd's numbers off this book? Are Ladd's numbers off
> KLOS as a whole?
>
> Ladd is nothing more than a target for bitterness as far as
> you're concerned. And "the fourth most important daypart"
> (out of five, BTW) means Rita can let Ladd loose without
> worrying too much.
>

We're talking about revenue not necessarily ratings (on the 4th most important daypart).

We also know that the station you turn off the radio to (in this case at night) is the one you turn on first (most likely in the morning). For those of us who think Jim Ladd does damage to KLOS, that doesn't help Mark & Brian. Maybe you should think about that KMR...pass it along to Rita Wilde, too...She's been programming KLOS - which never grows - way too long in my view.
 
Erroneous presumption

> We also know that the station you turn off the radio to (in
> this case at night) is the one you turn on first (most
> likely in the morning).

Not necessarily. Most people I know (and myself as well) have a clock radio which stays tuned to whatever station we want to wake up to. (You can all make yourselves crazy trying to figure out what mine is tuned to.)

I don't know a lot of people who turn their stereo on in the morning; they rely on that clock radio.
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DJ,

I hate to be a stickler, Lord knows we have enough of them here, however I think the point has been made before the PERIODS at the end of sentences really help the reader to get the full understanding and comprehension of the sentence.

As a another small item, most proper names and radio station call letters, such as Jim Ladd of KLOS, are CAPITALIZED.

Not trying to stir up any trouble or anything, just trying to make the board easier to read for all. Always here to help.

Ciao!

Flipper

> how many times must I say it changes need to be made at
> klos
> Jack clearly beat klos in the ratings
> people are tired of the mark and brian
> jim ladd plays obscure music that nobody cares about , he
> needs to expand his playlist other than pink floyd and bob
> dylan
> gary moore should be the odd man out his unhappines of not
> playing led zepplin 24 hours is starting to show in his
> voice
> what more do I need to say
> Rita Wilde should be held accountable , Im sure she is a
> nice woman but busines is business.....
> Jack proves people wanna hear music and don't care for the
> morning zoo zany disc jockey
>
> later
>
 
You continuously make the same tired posts about Jim Ladd. How about some actual facts for a change to substantiate your posts? Just cause you hate Jim Ladd and what he does doesn't make him or his show bad or tired. Perhaps it's you who's tired. As far as your remark that Ladd's male demos that advertisers want is about to leave him behind, unless you have some fact to back that up, your comments are worthless opinionated drivel.
 
I think the lesson for KLOS should be...there is a reason Arrow left the Classic Rock format. Not because KLOS was doing such a great job, but because it is unsustainable format in the year 2005.

While I am not sure that I like Jack I applaud Infinity for having the guts to make the switch on a station that was generating plenty of money. Far too often stations wait until revenue is lost before making a switch, usually that is too late.

The classic rock format is a lost cause. At least in the way that KLOS has been doing the format.

The folks at ABC Los Angeles generally have a hard time facing changes. These are the same people who never saw emergence of KFI and felt personality-less radio hosts were still en vogue in the early 1990's. In the meantime their precious KABC was destroyed by Rush Limbaugh, et. al, and it has yet to recover. KLOS is following the same path.

I predict ABC will make few if any changes in management at KLOS (especially, in light of a pending sale). Rita Wilde has managed to maintain status quo and that is truly all they want at ABC.

While the world of media and entertainment is rapidly changing, radio often continues on the same path it has for since its inception. Managers in radio are not rewarded for innovation or for taking risks. There is little benefit for exploring how radio can use new technology or finding a new role for the medium in the changing marketplace.





> how many times must I say it changes need to be made at
> klos
> Jack clearly beat klos in the ratings
> people are tired of the mark and brian
> jim ladd plays obscure music that nobody cares about , he
> needs to expand his playlist other than pink floyd and bob
> dylan
> gary moore should be the odd man out his unhappines of not
> playing led zepplin 24 hours is starting to show in his
> voice
> what more do I need to say
> Rita Wilde should be held accountable , Im sure she is a
> nice woman but busines is business.....
> Jack proves people wanna hear music and don't care for the
> morning zoo zany disc jockey
>
> later
>
 
> You continuously make the same tired posts about Jim Ladd.
> How about some actual facts for a change to substantiate
> your posts? Just cause you hate Jim Ladd and what he does
> doesn't make him or his show bad or tired. Perhaps it's you
> who's tired. As far as your remark that Ladd's male demos
> that advertisers want is about to leave him behind, unless
> you have some fact to back that up, your comments are
> worthless opinionated drivel.
>

Instead of attacking my comments without merit, I suggest you look into KLOS's demos. There you will see the truth about their future. At the same time, I suggest you look at K-Earth's. Then you can see the road that both are on.
 
> I think the lesson for KLOS should be...there is a reason
> Arrow left the Classic Rock format. Not because KLOS was
> doing such a great job, but because it is unsustainable
> format in the year 2005.
>
> While I am not sure that I like Jack I applaud Infinity for
> having the guts to make the switch on a station that was
> generating plenty of money. Far too often stations wait
> until revenue is lost before making a switch, usually that
> is too late.
>
> The classic rock format is a lost cause. At least in the way
> that KLOS has been doing the format.
>
> The folks at ABC Los Angeles generally have a hard time
> facing changes. These are the same people who never saw
> emergence of KFI and felt personality-less radio hosts were
> still en vogue in the early 1990's. In the meantime their
> precious KABC was destroyed by Rush Limbaugh, et. al, and it
> has yet to recover. KLOS is following the same path.
>
> I predict ABC will make few if any changes in management at
> KLOS (especially, in light of a pending sale). Rita Wilde
> has managed to maintain status quo and that is truly all
> they want at ABC.
>
> While the world of media and entertainment is rapidly
> changing, radio often continues on the same path it has for
> since its inception. Managers in radio are not rewarded for
> innovation or for taking risks. There is little benefit for
> exploring how radio can use new technology or finding a new
> role for the medium in the changing marketplace.
>

Bravo. Very insightful comments.

I agree that with a possible sale/spin-off/merger of the ABC radio properties, they won't be making many changes. But ABC doesn't shake up their properties too often anyway.
If ABC continues to have control over them after a potential merger, as some news stories have suggested, that will be bad news. They need to be shaken up.

Being that I am now more involved with talk than music radio, I also agree about KABC. KABC has an idiot for an Operations Manager. That is their main problem. KABC has much potential with Sean Hannity but not much else (Larry Elder will always be #2 to John and Ken). KABC made a poor choice for mornings. Nice guy and I like his stance on issues but not a good morning show host when you are competing with KFI.
 
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