klove 97.7

[smashedcd]

klove has aparently gotten a translator for klove. i dont know why because 92.7 covers baton rouge. but whatever. klove is now 92.7 / 97.7. i searched the fcc site and found a liscense for baker. i dont get it..??

 

[RFLA]

From what I'm gathering of all the applications, this application for the translator was made way before EMF's purchase of 92.7... Instead of cancelling the application for the translator, EMF apparently decided to build it anyway...


I do not know why they decided to still air and license with it rebroadcasting a signal that is city grade in the COL of the translator however. I figured they would have tried to license it with a AIR 1 station instead.

RFLA

 

[smashedcd]

From what I'm gathering of all the applications, this application for the translator was made way before EMF's purchase of 92.7... Instead of cancelling the application for the translator, EMF apparently decided to build it anyway...


Hopefully soon, instead of having two signals that close together (Which I figure someone would put a stink about soon IMO).. they should flip to say Air 1 instead IMO.

completely agree. it should be air 1! and wasnt the original app for 101.1?

 

[RFLA]

EMF made a application in Baton Rouge for a 19 watt translator on 101.1 in 2003, but the FCC hasn't done anything about it.

The one in Baker has always been set up for 97.7... The many applications pretty much changed what major signal it was going to translate. First was Alexandria, then a signal in St. martinville, to one from Georgia to the latest application for 92.7 from Clinton.

But if it uses translators and has a 170 watt signal, It would be I think in their better interest to go with something else like AIR 1..

I edited my original post not to be so harsh but anyhow, You know one of the churches in town if not someone else is gonna raise some cain about a station translating a city grade signal in a city grade signal... cause as far as I know, there isn't anything out in Baker blocking K-Love's signal....

 

[smashedcd]

i would think they would try and cover south baton rouge better near the state capitol. but no. they cover the original city again! :

 

[Fieldtech1]

Smashed,It looks like the TX for this translator is downtown, 92.7 prob. doesnt make it into the high rise buildings very well so this will re-enforce the signal there. This new site will also hit south Baton Rouge OK where their signal is starting to picket fence on most radios. What I find most odd is the translator barely touches Baker, its city of liscense.

Translator 60db
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FX1187051.html
92.7 60db
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1057362.html

 

[smashedcd]

Smashed,It looks like the TX for this translator is downtown, 92.7 prob. doesnt make it into the high rise buildings very well so this will re-enforce the signal there. This new site will also hit south Baton Rouge OK where their signal is starting to picket fence on most radios. What I find most odd is the translator barely touches Baker, its city of liscense.

Translator 60db
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FX1187051.html
92.7 60db
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1057362.html

Aactually i know it doesnt. i work with a guy who listens all the time. hes always complaining about the dropouts in south baton rouge and on 110 near the state capitol.he will be happy.

 

[CW]

From what I'm gathering of all the applications, this application for the translator was made way before EMF's purchase of 92.7... Instead of cancelling the application for the translator, EMF apparently decided to build it anyway...


I do not know why they decided to still air and license with it rebroadcasting a signal that is city grade in the COL of the translator however. I figured they would have tried to license it with a AIR 1 station instead.

RFLA

AFR does the same thing in SE TX...they have 90.5 C2 near Beaumont which covers the entire area well, yet they bought one translator from KHCB and won another...both within the city grade of the 90.5 which BOTH translator carry! DUH!! And the two are in the commercial band...what a waste..

 

[pobryan]

All translators on the commercial band (92 mghz-108 mghz) have to repeat a terrestrial station. Since there is no Air 1 in the area, it can't be re-transmitted. You can only re-transmit satellite delivered stations on the non-com band (below 92 mghz). I hope this explains why EMF is not running Air 1 in Baton Rouge.

 

[jd]

All translators on the commercial band (92 mghz-108 mghz) have to repeat a terrestrial station. Since there is no Air 1 in the area, it can't be re-transmitted. You can only re-transmit satellite delivered stations on the non-com band (below 92 mghz). I hope this explains why EMF is not running Air 1 in Baton Rouge.

You're right about the restriction for translators in the commercial part of the band, but there are ways around it. That's what CW is talking about with the Beaumont area as an example. It happens that the terrestrial station is satellite-fed, so in effect its translator is satellite-fed as well, be it second or third generation, ad infinitum. It's very common. One of the most recent examples is in San Antonio, where a new commercial band translator (licensed to suburban Terrell Hills) is rebroadcasting a non-commercial band translator from nearby San Antonio, as described here: www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,68835.0.html

I'm not necessarily saying that EMF is coming to Baton Rouge, but it really could be done. With the way the rules are written it would be perfectly legal if the groundwork was there. Also note that the FCC has, from time to time, granted waivers allowing commercial-band translators to use satellite feeds when over-the-air reception of the "parent" station isn't reliable.

 

[C414B]

All translators on the commercial band (92 mghz-108 mghz) have to repeat a terrestrial station. Since there is no Air 1 in the area, it can't be re-transmitted. You can only re-transmit satellite delivered stations on the non-com band (below 92 mghz). I hope this explains why EMF is not running Air 1 in Baton Rouge.

Correct me here, but I thought as long as the parent station was in the NCE segment the translator could be fed by whatever means possible.

 

[CW]

All translators on the commercial band (92 mghz-108 mghz) have to repeat a terrestrial station. Since there is no Air 1 in the area, it can't be re-transmitted. You can only re-transmit satellite delivered stations on the non-com band (below 92 mghz). I hope this explains why EMF is not running Air 1 in Baton Rouge.

Correct me here, but I thought as long as the parent station was in the NCE segment the translator could be fed by whatever means possible.

Nope, current Part 73 rules restrict a translator in the Commercial band MUST receive off air...Sat fed above 91.9 is not allowed. A translator in the NCE band can only repeat NCEs.....a translator in the commercial end of the band can repeat either NCE or not...but again, can only be fed by a rcvr listening to the main station...nothing else!

 

[C414B]

All translators on the commercial band (92 mghz-108 mghz) have to repeat a terrestrial station. Since there is no Air 1 in the area, it can't be re-transmitted. You can only re-transmit satellite delivered stations on the non-com band (below 92 mghz). I hope this explains why EMF is not running Air 1 in Baton Rouge.

Correct me here, but I thought as long as the parent station was in the NCE segment the translator could be fed by whatever means possible.

Nope, current Part 73 rules restrict a translator in the Commercial band MUST receive off air...Sat fed above 91.9 is not allowed. A translator in the NCE band can only repeat NCEs.....a translator in the commercial end of the band can repeat either NCE or not...but again, can only be fed by a rcvr listening to the main station...nothing else!

Wow. Didn't know that.

Thanks for the clarification.