KLTY

[rockroll0617]

It's occoured to me that Christian KLTY gets virtually no pup or recognition
on these boards. A lot of Salem's properties around the country may not
necessarily be the best run, but when you hear the sound of KLTY and look
at their ratings success, they really are a shining jewel. A nice, positive
success story and a really pretty teriffic sounding radio station. I'm guessing
that because they're viewed by so many as almost a non-com, they're not
often the topic of conversation--but they should be.

;D

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

KLTY is a good sounding station and ran well. Its behind the scenes at Salem,however that undermines them. They often DO NOT practice what they preach. Cumulus and Clear Channel is heaven compared to them. If you work there,make sure kevlar is part of your underwear. Not just my take,but others who once graced their halls.

 

[Retro]

KLTY is top notch and has had some of the best ratings in recent years. I do not know the behind the scenes over there but do know Salem's reputation though. I heard that they are a good employer to work for, but I just do not like how they do business in general.

 

[theshadow]

They often DO NOT practice what they preach.

I've heard a certain morning person can be a real
[EDIT] to deal with at times.

I remember a story of one of the traffic reporters filling in for Starlene
Stringer reading a live sponsorship spot, and it was for an HBO or cable promo
for the series "Queer As Folk". Also, this same fill-in read a spot for the
Texas Lottery. Well, you would have thought it was the second coming,
the fallout from that. Of course, we all know gays and gamblers are going
to hell..... Personally, I thought it was absolutely hilarious (No, I
was NOT the person that did it).

It's just that goody, goody sterilized "bubble" of a world the station
conveys, and its listeners live in, when we all know that the whole
process is of such a "put on" hypocritical "plastic" nature....

The holy rollers are usually the first to fall from grace.......

Why, there's probably some person out there right now that's
listening to KLTY as they are making their way to a cheap motel
to cheat on the spouse.....But, gawwwd will forgive 'em....
Welcome to the bible belt....

However, I will give the station credit. Whatever the station is doing
for the "plastic people", they are doing it extremely well. Just don't count
me as in with that crowd.


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[Jncaudle]

[EDIT] to deal with at times.

I remember a story of one of the traffic reporters filling in for Starlene
Stringer reading a live sponsorship spot, and it was for an HBO or cable promo
for the series "Queer As Folk". Also, this same fill-in read a spot for the
Texas Lottery. Well, you would have thought it was the second coming,
the fallout from that. Of course, we all know gays and gamblers are going
to hell..... Personally, I thought it was absolutely hilarious (No, I
was NOT the person that did it).

It's just that goody, goody sterilized "bubble" of a world the station
conveys, and its listeners live in, when we all know that the whole
process is of such a "put on" hypocritical "plastic" nature....

The holy rollers are usually the first to fall from grace.......

Why, there's probably some person out there right now that's
listening to KLTY as they are making their way to a cheap motel
to cheat on the spouse.....But, gawwwd will forgive 'em....
Welcome to the bible belt....

However, I will give the station credit. Whatever the station is doing
for the "plastic people", they are doing it extremely well. Just don't count
me as in with that crowd.


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We should have known that a post about the quality of a Christian radio station would turn into a post about the hate for Christians in general. Just so you know, everyone doesn't cheat on their spouse and I've never "rolled" in church.

 

[theshadow]

We should have known that a post about the quality of a Christian radio station would turn into a post about the hate for Christians in general.

I don't hate Christians. I attend church every Sunday. We even have
a great Christian rock band that plays (although I prefer Classic Rock
than Jesus Rock). Imaging wise however, I think KLTY conveys a "bubble" of
perfection, and "safeness", that we all know, does NOT exist in the
REAL world.

Imagine the kid that has not heard Pink's "U And Ur Hand" on the radio
because Mom or Dad only listen to KLTY, and think other music is "evil".
That's what I'm talking about "living in the bubble". While KLTY listeners
are playing "safe", the real world is passing them by.....
But hey, if it gets ratings, that's what it's all about, right?

Just so you know, everyone doesn't cheat on their spouse and I've never "rolled" in church.

Glad to know you're not Jimmy Swaggart.

Back to regular programming.....

 

[TheLaffer]

They often DO NOT practice what they preach.

I've heard a certain morning person can be a real
[EDIT] to deal with at times.

I remember a story of one of the traffic reporters filling in for Starlene
Stringer reading a live sponsorship spot, and it was for an HBO or cable promo
for the series "Queer As Folk". Also, this same fill-in read a spot for the
Texas Lottery. Well, you would have thought it was the second coming,
the fallout from that. Of course, we all know gays and gamblers are going
to hell..... Personally, I thought it was absolutely hilarious (No, I
was NOT the person that did it).

It's just that goody, goody sterilized "bubble" of a world the station
conveys, and its listeners live in, when we all know that the whole
process is of such a "put on" hypocritical "plastic" nature....

The holy rollers are usually the first to fall from grace.......

Why, there's probably some person out there right now that's
listening to KLTY as they are making their way to a cheap motel
to cheat on the spouse.....But, gawwwd will forgive 'em....
Welcome to the bible belt....

However, I will give the station credit. Whatever the station is doing
for the "plastic people", they are doing it extremely well. Just don't count
me as in with that crowd.


[EDIT-vulgar content]

We should have known that a post about the quality of a Christian radio station would turn into a post about the hate for Christians in general. Just so you know, everyone doesn't cheat on their spouse and I've never "rolled" in church.

Amen to that!

 

[TheLaffer]

We should have known that a post about the quality of a Christian radio station would turn into a post about the hate for Christians in general.

I don't hate Christians. I attend church every Sunday. We even have
a great Christian rock band that plays (although I prefer Classic Rock
than Jesus Rock). Imaging wise however, I think KLTY conveys a "bubble" of
perfection, and "safeness", that we all know, does NOT exist in the
REAL world.

Imagine the kid that has not heard Pink's "U And Ur Hand" on the radio
because Mom or Dad only listen to KLTY, and think other music is "evil".
That's what I'm talking about "living in the bubble". While KLTY listeners
are playing "safe", the real world is passing them by.....
But hey, if it gets ratings, that's what it's all about, right?

Just so you know, everyone doesn't cheat on their spouse and I've never "rolled" in church.

Glad to know you're not Jimmy Swaggart.

Back to regular programming.....

Or Jody Dean

 

[rockroll0617]

Imaging wise however, I think KLTY conveys a "bubble" of
perfection, and "safeness", that we all know, does NOT exist in the
REAL world.

Imagine the kid that has not heard Pink's "U And Ur Hand" on the radio
because Mom or Dad only listen to KLTY, and think other music is "evil".
That's what I'm talking about "living in the bubble". While KLTY listeners
are playing "safe", the real world is passing them by.....
But hey, if it gets ratings, that's what it's all about, right?

I don't know where you get this "bubble of perfection" thing but it is
indeed a position of Contemp. Christians to promote being a "safe haven"
for families and children, just like rock stations promote being all about
T&A. Listen to hip-hop and very hard rock lyrics- I sure wouldn't want
my children listening to much of those words and thoughts. This is in no
way a "we're perfect" mindset; it's a "if you want music that's safe and
not filled with drugs and violence, we have an alternative here for you".
What's wrong with that? AC and Oldies stations have been doing this
for years.

This is America-it's good to have choices, and these days it's
very good (and rare) to have safe choices.

 

[jdean]

A few years ago I tried to get Salem/KLTY to run a PSA with Byron Nelson and Robert Hughes for a Convoy of Hope event to feed the homeless on Ft. Worth's southside. Went all the way up the food chain and down again and was told that such was against policy - even for an event designed to attract tens of thousands of inner city and urban dwellers in need of free medical and dental, food, child care supplies. I understand the need for guidelines as well as anyone - but that seemed at cross-purposes with the station's Christ-mandate. So, I went across the street...and talked to another large "secular" media company. They gave us all the radio, busbacks and billboards we could handle, and then some. About 45,000 folks showed up in a Ft. Worth city park one October day - and of the two entities, which would you say was closer to the heart KLTY purports to serve?

But don't misunderstand. Every church and churchgoer in the world faces this dilemma, and especially those such as a "christian" radio station. You're in business, but what IS your business? Making money, or meeting need? Add to that the fact that the mission is not simply to look religious. It is to feed the hungry, care for the sick, save the lost, heal the hurting, etc. And truth be told, what KLTY does on a daily basis probably does secretly feed, clothe and heal alot of people in ways none of us will ever be aware of. I'm sure KLTY's braintrust struggles daily with the question of priorities...or at least, I'd like to think they do. Just because it didn't go my way once doesn't mean I'm prepared to call them hypocrites. For that, I'd have to start in the mirror.

All people fail to practice what we preach, on a daily basis. Otherwise, it would be called "perfect" what we preach. Radio companies, pews, this board and my shoes are filled with strugglers who fail and need help. On the other hand, those who think they've got everything right are simply liars. It's not whether that's true or not, but merely whether one recognizes it.

 

[TheLaffer]

A few years ago I tried to get Salem/KLTY to run a PSA with Byron Nelson and Robert Hughes for a Convoy of Hope event to feed the homeless on Ft. Worth's southside. Went all the way up the food chain and down again and was told that such was against policy - even for an event designed to attract tens of thousands of inner city and urban dwellers in need of free medical and dental, food, child care supplies. I understand the need for guidelines as well as anyone - but that seemed at cross-purposes with the station's Christ-mandate. So, I went across the street...and talked to another large "secular" media company. They gave us all the radio, busbacks and billboards we could handle, and then some. About 45,000 folks showed up in a Ft. Worth city park one October day - and of the two entities, which would you say was closer to the heart KLTY purports to serve?

But don't misunderstand. Every church and churchgoer in the world faces this dilemma, and especially those such as a "christian" radio station. You're in business, but what IS your business? Making money, or meeting need? Add to that the fact that the mission is not simply to look religious. It is to feed the hungry, care for the sick, save the lost, heal the hurting, etc. And truth be told, what KLTY does on a daily basis probably does secretly feed, clothe and heal alot of people in ways none of us will ever be aware of. I'm sure KLTY's braintrust struggles daily with the question of priorities...or at least, I'd like to think they do. Just because it didn't go my way once doesn't mean I'm prepared to call them hypocrites. For that, I'd have to start in the mirror.

All people fail to practice what we preach, on a daily basis. Otherwise, it would be called "perfect" what we preach. Radio companies, pews, this board and my shoes are filled with strugglers who fail and need help. On the other hand, those who think they've got everything right are simply liars. It's not whether that's true or not, but merely whether one recognizes it.

You make some good points Jody but lately i've grown weary and suspicious of YOU claiming to NOT be the perfect Christian and play the "Humble One" so you can justify being an ------. Don't get me wrong it's admirable you admit your not the "Perfect Christian" but since i know you personally and knowing what other people tell me about your behavior in the past and today might lead one to think you're playing the HOLY ROLLER and to constantly play the HUMBLE ONE might be Ridiculous.

PS: Did you run off Randy Capes?

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Imagine the kid that has not heard Pink's "U And Ur Hand" on the radio
because Mom or Dad only listen to KLTY, and think other music is "evil".
That's what I'm talking about "living in the bubble". While KLTY listeners
are playing "safe", the real world is passing them by.....

Hmmmm...isn't that one of the goals of living a Christian life? Not being "of" the world?

 

[Accuracy]

A few years ago I tried to get Salem/KLTY to run a PSA with Byron Nelson and Robert Hughes for a Convoy of Hope event to feed the homeless on Ft. Worth's southside. Went all the way up the food chain and down again and was told that such was against policy - even for an event designed to attract tens of thousands of inner city and urban dwellers in need of free medical and dental, food, child care supplies. I understand the need for guidelines as well as anyone - but that seemed at cross-purposes with the station's Christ-mandate. So, I went across the street...and talked to another large "secular" media company. They gave us all the radio, busbacks and billboards we could handle, and then some. About 45,000 folks showed up in a Ft. Worth city park one October day - and of the two entities, which would you say was closer to the heart KLTY purports to serve?

But don't misunderstand. Every church and churchgoer in the world faces this dilemma, and especially those such as a "christian" radio station. You're in business, but what IS your business? Making money, or meeting need? Add to that the fact that the mission is not simply to look religious. It is to feed the hungry, care for the sick, save the lost, heal the hurting, etc. And truth be told, what KLTY does on a daily basis probably does secretly feed, clothe and heal alot of people in ways none of us will ever be aware of. I'm sure KLTY's braintrust struggles daily with the question of priorities...or at least, I'd like to think they do. Just because it didn't go my way once doesn't mean I'm prepared to call them hypocrites. For that, I'd have to start in the mirror.

All people fail to practice what we preach, on a daily basis. Otherwise, it would be called "perfect" what we preach. Radio companies, pews, this board and my shoes are filled with strugglers who fail and need help. On the other hand, those who think they've got everything right are simply liars. It's not whether that's true or not, but merely whether one recognizes it.

Once again, the real Jody Dean shows through the myth he has tried to create. You post something that has no purpose except to embarrass KLTY and accuse them of surrendering to the almighty dollar rather than be a witnessing tool. You could have made your point by discussing an experience with a "Christian" and "secular" station and the way each station approached it. You felt the need to mention KLTY's lack of support, but where are the call letters for the station(s) that helped you? The Christian thing to do would be congratulate those who helped, and not criticize KLTY before you know their reasons for not helping. I know from my experiences in Christian radio that such stations are inundated with requests for help from organizations and individuals. Just because they didn't help YOUR cause doesn't mean they are not operating with Christian principles.

Criticizing KLTY and then trying to soften that criticism with your final paragraph doesn't lessen your un-Christian approach. You state that "the mission is not simply to look religious." Interesting comment from a guy who tries awfully hard to look religious. And unless you are prepared to release your tax records and show us how much you give to feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, etc., please stop being a pretender and judging the motives of KLTY. Your co-workers await the release of your tax records since your conversion.

 

[romanradio]

Interesting conversation going on with this topic which I feel compelled to comment. theshadow's originial provocative post was simply a critical recognition that a station has what we like to call 'standards.' And since this station with 'standards' happens to be Christian opens up the door to all kinds of ridicule and vitriol because, as another pointed out, people like to bash Christians. The reason they do, in my opinion, is because it's impossible to criticize the many other stations in this market that have no standards because, well, we live in a relativistic society that appreciates no boundaries because it doesn't put any regulations on our actions or the way we live. So we'll give stations a pass that pretty much let anything go because, as weird and depraved as they seem to be, at least they're not 'hypocrites,' the dirtiest word in the language of our current culture. I appreciate KLTY censoring (another dirty word) their spots because it reminds me that someone in broadcasting still has the spine to draw the line somewhere. And I'm glad to hear they are Christians, because Christ was known to draw lines in the sand as well.

 

[Jncaudle]

Interesting conversation going on with this topic which I feel compelled to comment. theshadow's originial provocative post was simply a critical recognition that a station has what we like to call 'standards.' And since this station with 'standards' happens to be Christian opens up the door to all kinds of ridicule and vitriol because, as another pointed out, people like to bash Christians. The reason they do, in my opinion, is because it's impossible to criticize the many other stations in this market that have no standards because, well, we live in a relativistic society that appreciates no boundaries because it doesn't put any regulations on our actions or the way we live. So we'll give stations a pass that pretty much let anything go because, as weird and depraved as they seem to be, at least they're not 'hypocrites,' the dirtiest word in the language of our current culture. I appreciate KLTY censoring (another dirty word) their spots because it reminds me that someone in broadcasting still has the spine to draw the line somewhere. And I'm glad to hear they are Christians, because Christ was known to draw lines in the sand as well.

Thank you.

 

[Coronaextra]

I think KLTY does have a good sound though I find the morning show a little cheezy. And as for them censoring spots, so does The Wolf, and last time I checked it was a secular station.

 

[rockroll0617]

Imagine the kid that has not heard Pink's "U And Ur Hand" on the radio
because Mom or Dad only listen to KLTY, and think other music is "evil".
That's what I'm talking about "living in the bubble". While KLTY listeners
are playing "safe", the real world is passing them by.....

Hmmmm...isn't that one of the goals of living a Christian life? Not being "of" the world?

I don't know why you think choosing a Christian lifestyle means "living in
a bubble". There's a concept called balance. It seems like you're
suggesting that if you're a devout Christian, you wouldn't work in secular
radio or even watch TV, leave the house or have career ambition.

Get real. Being sucked in by a material world is a choice, to make or avoid,
not a death sentance. Choosing a station like KLTY doesn't always mean
one never listens to popular hit radio, any more than being a country P1
means you never listen to anything but country.

;D

 

[jdean]

Accuracy is right. There was no useful point in specifically mentioning any station negatively in my previous post, since that situation is routinely faced by all stations, and christian stations in particular. I've reflected on his reply, and I was wrong. I also get a hundred such requests for help each week, and can't get to a tenth of them, if that. Thanks for reminding me. My sincere apologies to KLTY for not thinking.

 

[theshadow]

I don't know why you think choosing a Christian lifestyle means "living in
a bubble". There's a concept called balance.

Well, I fully admit I started a firestorm. I should have known. Politics
and religion....We could argue for days....

So let's call it a truce, and agree to disagree...

My bottom line point about religious stations and their programming
is that there are listeners that will take it too far, and choose to let a
radio station, programming, broadcast, etc. dictate every aspect about
their lives and family. It's a matter of those that make up their OWN
minds about matters, and those that let OTHERS (the church,
the radio station) make up their minds for them.

Personally, I choose NOT to be a robot. I make up my own
programming and consultation, not OTHERS. ;D

 

[TheLaffer]

I don't know why you think choosing a Christian lifestyle means "living in
a bubble". There's a concept called balance.

Well, I fully admit I started a firestorm. I should have known. Politics
and religion....We could argue for days....

So let's call it a truce, and agree to disagree...

My bottom line point about religious stations and their programming
is that there are listeners that will take it too far, and choose to let a
radio station, programming, broadcast, etc. dictate every aspect about
their lives and family. It's a matter of those that make up their OWN
minds about matters, and those that let OTHERS (the church,
the radio station) make up their minds for them.

Personally, I choose NOT to be a robot. I make up my own
programming and consultation, not OTHERS. ;D

You should allow God to choose. He knows best for YOUUU Blaine.