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KMIH..... What Happen? no education here

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gr229

KASB KGRG KNHC are all student run and have students doing a good job.
On KMIH haven't heard any students or any school involvement with this station. No reading the news/high school sports, just nothing for a year or so. They once had a mourning show that actually gave the Tman some competition now nothing.

Educational radio is not educating anyone about radio at this station considering their history to stay on the air.
Is it just a Mercer Island "musak" station under the umbrella tax free high school but supported by tax payers?
Are there changes in the future to include the students to have any input or air talent?
And why 94.5? Money that could be better spent on the kids EDUCATION about radio.

KVTI consider accepting new students again bring back the course/classes.
You were one of the last places for us wanna be's to get our feet wet in radio and now KGRG is all that's left.

I'm a STRONG supporter of student run stations and have contributed nearly $5 grand in support/donations to the various student run stations around here and I'm scratching KMIH for not living up to their promise.(kids)

Here's a thought...Where would Eric P. be without KNHC...educational radio works.(and there are more of you out there.

Radioprofesser I can't use your quote twice but it sure fits here.

anybody any thoughts?

Oh and don't get me started on KCMU---forgot "KEXP": crap what a joke. Next time ask Paul.
 
gr229 said:
KASB KGRG KNHC are all student run and have students doing a good job.
On KMIH haven't heard any students or any school involvement with this station. No reading the news/high school sports, just nothing for a year or so. They once had a mourning show that actually gave the Tman some competition now nothing.
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I do have a thought, two actually: 1. You need to work on your grammar and consider using spell check. ("mourning show") 2. You don't really have data to back up that KMIH "gave Tman some competition" do you? No, I didn't think so because that never really happened.
 
What a joke...thanks for the laugh.

They did have a student morning show that was/did compete(?) on at the same time as the Tman that lasted 2-3 months.

Although I won't make or break this station KMIH ya aint gettin' no mo my money!
So put yo money where yo mouth is cause this donor is finished.
The point is you got the point.

How's that for your grammar lesson?

Just to poke the bear a little, KASB gets it now.

spell check/grammar.. Wow!
 
Just because KMIH had some kids on in the morning, doesn't mean it was in any way a competitor to KUBE's morning show. You are clearly just speaking out of your hat with that statement.

And I agree with other's here; my eight year old son has learned more effective sentence structure than you have exhibited in your posts. I'm not attacking you, at least that's not my intent, but for as long as your posts are, proofreading, spell checking and an attempt at proper grammar would have you appearing at least more credible.
 
TVradioguru said:
And I agree with other's here; my eight year old son has learned more effective sentence structure than you have exhibited in your posts. I'm not attacking you, at least that's not my intent, but for as long as your posts are, proofreading, spell checking and an attempt at proper grammar would have you appearing at least more credible.
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Uh - don't look now, Guru, but check word #4 in the above sentence.
 
Perhaps.. It happens when using an Iphone in an airport. At least my typing on a touch screen is far more legible than anything GR seems to be submitting recently. My apostrophe should have been at the end of others..

"In phrases using the pronoun "other," form the possessive by following the general rule for nouns. Form the singular possessive with apostrophe s and the plural with an apostrophe

Examples:
each other's letters, one another's houses
the others' reports [the reports of the others]"
 
I'll make this kinda short,

Fact: No student air personalities @ KMIH (Mercer Island High School)
Fact: I feel my hard earned money has been wasted on KMIH
Fact: I will put a cease all contributions to KMIH
Fact: The 94.5 translator is a waste of money.(now that's my opinion) I believe this to be fact.
Fact: I pushed the button to listen to "those kids" instead of Tman,but I will admit I'm hooked on The Bob Rivers show.

HowardmBurger;

Fact: "Those kids" could never match the revenue that Tman has. That comment was not intended to suggest that they gave him any serious competition, just to state they had a morning show. Why would you think I would think that? Let me ask you this..How do you spell mom backwards?.yea! Your probably thinking what I'm thinking, right?

Fact: "Those kids" would just read the news. How can they report? KMIH is not teaching them.
Fact: KASB has student air personalities that do news and live high school sports.
Fact: At KASB they are teaching the business
Fact: KNHC KGRG and a few others are also teaching the business. KMIH is not.
Fact: With all the so-called professionals on this board, radio is losing tons of money and none of you have answers.
Fact: I have NEVER made or had an opinion on how to make money in radio. All my post have been questions or comments on something I observed while listening to or read about radio.
Fact:This is an Radio-Information board not a radio-bitch board. I know it's ironic for me to bitch here about KMIH huh? Oh well!

Example: There is a post I started asking how long will you listen to a commercial set before pushing the button? Simple question. Not so! Guru, are you telling me I didn't hear what I heard?

Fact: The reason I previously posted my dislikes about KMIH is for you all to understand why I asked this question.
Although these facts are minuscule,diminutive, lilliputian, minute, small ,these are the facts.
Guru, and as a matter of fact if your eight year old is or will be interested in radio KMIH will not teach him/her.

So I'll ask again,
What happened to KMIH?

And your response is to attack my "grammar" and "writing skills". Attack all you want,I don't care. Just answer the question. PLEASE!?!

Radioprofessor Thank you!
 
gr229 said:
I'll make this kinda short,
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Kudos for being a little more articulate, albeit rambling.

You made the statement that some kids previously on the air in the mornings were competing with KUBE. I was simply trying to understand how you could make that sort of statement.

My only other response to you, is that if you indeed made a donation to the tune of several thousand dollars to KMIH and are not supportive of the way they run their program, you should really take that up with the Principal or someone in charge of the program. Going on and on about it on a radio discussion board is fruitless. To that point, did it ever occur to you that maybe the station never had a curriculum because there isn't a radio class at KMIH? From what I know, KMIH has more been simply a high school radio station without classes like KVTI and KNHC. I believe the original KMIH did have classes associated with the station back in the 70's, but that folded and just the radio station was restarted years later by some former students without an associated class or curriculum.

If it meant so much to you that it was a radio class with an established curriculum, then maybe you should have checked that out before making a donation?

Regarding your statement about no kids on the air, did it ever occur to you that it is summer? Having worked with an educational station for many years, finding kids to be on the air during summer vacation is sometimes a challenge.

Okay now I'm done with this topic, mainly because it boarders on moronic.
 
Mr. gr229, you are SO WRONG on so many different levels. I am not going to hear somebody trash a respected radio program since 1969.

Just so that you know, a STUDENT programs the station, and they have STUDENTS voice underwriting announcements, and STUDENTS actually are on the air. But it's SUMMER and most STUDENTS want to take the time off.

Get a life.
 
gr229 said:
KASB KGRG KNHC are all student run and have students doing a good job.
On KMIH haven't heard any students or any school involvement with this station. No reading the news/high school sports, just nothing for a year or so. They once had a mourning show
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Maybe it was a sad show about dead cats and dogs or something---I'm just saying. :eek:
 
Howard:
KMIH KASB KGRG KNHC KCTS KTBC all got small slice of a very small cake.
I agree with you!
Thanks

FMSTEVE:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :eek:
and thank you too!
 
There are so many other things each of these radio stations could be doing to provide radio content that isn't already available on Seattle's rather unimaginative dial, that i suggest it's a crying shame to pretend that most of these stations serve an "educational" purpose.

The half dozen radio hobbyists in the radio club this semester are really not much to show for a fulltime (and often powerful) FM signal in a major market. And I know from trying to get college students interested in radio production (more than just playing their favorite CDs, or mp3 files, on a music show) is a hard sell for a generation raised on video and interested in technologies other than radio.

Anyone care to imagine what else could be on the dial in place of a few of these high school stations? What if Seattle Pacific Univ. ran a non-commercial fine arts format? Or Bastyr University had a mix of personal growth topics and new age/world music? Maybe the Seattle Channel on cable could have a radio component which covered city events and politics in more detail than KIRO or KOMO. Or aired some of the performances from summer concerts in area parks.

Washington State Univ. has three program streams that air nrealy statewide, outside of Seattle and Spokane. It would be a nice option to hear one of them on a signal closer to town that these high schools use to play hip hop hits. A special-emphasis high school or charter school might also have something to offer the public on the radio dial, if given a chance to share in a portion of the public airwarves. Or non-time-brokered "foreign" language programming, including a few European languages and music, would also be educational and relatively easy to produce. If someone in charge of the stations made an effort to find the right people to put on the air.

I think most of the local high school stations, as they currently broadcast, are fine candidates for lower power FM signals or internet radio. But for a class B signal? Maybe a few shared-time frequencies would help to share the financial burden and open up some airspace for something original.

Can we get a little imagination flowing around here? After all, that's what's needed to offer compelling radio at its best.
 
I would be super interested to find out who this donor that claims they donated to KMIH was, I have been volunteering for years as the chief engineer for KMIH and PERSONALLY donated the cash for the 94.5 translator (as well as doing the setup) so I am not sure where you get your data, that translator did not cost the station anything but increases the ability to raise money due to the increasing number of listeners. These days building a program that does not rely on money from a school district is a top priority. We have a web stream too, and my hosting company donates the streaming services for both KMIH and KNHC, this stuff all relies on people supporting the stations. I know that i would not support either if they provided niche programing as that stuff is what really belongs on the internet since that is where unlimited channels can be had.

KMIH has had a continuous radio class since the mid 90s and continues to send people to radio all the time. The current PD at KMIH is even a student who works at sadunsky on a regular basis as well. As for arts programing, people clearly have no idea what that would take to create, you basically need a full time staff. High school stations migrate towards music because it fills the time between all the in-house produced things like promos, PSAs, etc as well as being more tolerant of a staff that turns over.


As for summer, that is correct, only a smaller select group of students volunteer in summer. do check out the student hosting the firday night show, he is _Really_ good.



PS: I was approached about helping start a streaming station out of SeattleU, they could not even get a stream going, way too many apathetic volunteers. I am amazed that KNHC and KMIH are able to keep a program of consistent quality on the air while educating students. You do realize that the main reason KASB was upgraded was a payment from KMIH as part of the KMIH sponsored fight with KMCQ, right?
 
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