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KMPC 4 Sale

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KMPC 1540 is for sale. Anyone got a spare 25M? That's the asking price.

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Tragic waste of great call letters.

Anyone who would buy that dog deserves to lose his shirt.

Watch for Tagalog religious to enter the LA market.
 
I've got a theory: What if Salem buys 1540, moves KKLA's programming there and starts a country station on 99.5?

Could fill Glenn's ideals, their ideals, and everyone else's ideals. Could also be a great co sell with sister KFSH.

KKLA wouldn't lose either, crackpot preachers will still buy airtime no matter what.
 
zumahans said:
Tragic waste of great call letters.

Anyone who would buy that dog deserves to lose his shirt.

Watch for Tagalog religious to enter the LA market.

Agreed, it is a tragic waste of one of the most respected calls in L.A. radio. I'm not supposed to say what 1540 "The Ticket" bills every month but it's anemic by L.A. standards.

I'd love to restore that station to it's former glory (of course, 1540 was not KMPC's original channel). Bring back a music format, maybe even Country. Sc**w IBOC, blast the music out in wide-band AM stereo and proudly advertise it (at least I can broadcast stereo 24/7).

And to paraphrase Alfonso Bedoyia 'no stinkin' Spanish' (only kidding). Although the speculation is that 1540 might go Spanish.

db
 
After Salem's disasterous buyback, they don't have the scratch.

Faithbased accounting runs into reality.
 
Yes, let's take one of the highest billing religious stations in the country and replace it with a format declining nationally. As if there isn't even Godtalk competition on the AM band. With the 1540 night signal, they'd be two steps ahead of KTYM.
 
In 1960 my crystal radio rocked to KMPC 710. It was the most powerful signal to cross my house at Wilshire and Norton. I rode my bike to the KMPC studios which is now the "Old Spahgetti Factory". Mal Mobley said it used to be a Studebaker Dealership before that. McMillan Petroleum Company indeed. ABC was out of their mind to lose that callsign.
 
KJCB said:
Yes, let's take one of the highest billing religious stations in the country and replace it with a format declining nationally. As if there isn't even Godtalk competition on the AM band. With the 1540 night signal, they'd be two steps ahead of KTYM.

Put the godtalk on KKLA-HD2, those fore and brimstone idiots wouldn't even be smart enough to know it.

No, I guess that's not true, the collection plate loot would diminish, and that's what it's all about.
 
Neither of Salem's LA FMs are in HD. Anything other than the current incarnation of KKLA would be a bad move for Salem considering how little it costs to run and how much it brings in, without needing hordes of AEs on the street.
 
KPOL - Where Ferrante & Teicher are Movin' On 15~40!
 
zumahans said:
Dr. Akbar said:
KPOL - Where Ferrante & Teicher are Movin' On 15~40!

That's the ticket.

Sure, bringing back the KPOL sound would be fun. Today that style of music is known as Space Age Bachelor Pad. And even there I would create a more adventurous mix of that type of music then what KPOL did (by the way, from time-to-time I e-mail Stu Phillips of the Hollyridge Strings. He's alive and well, living in L.A. and still composing).

In a fascinating article in today's OC Register entitled, "Fading Frequencies", which discusses the reasons for why radio stations flip formats, there was a quote by a Jerry Del Colliano, a professor of the music industry at USC. He said this about the radio business: "Radio people have screwed up. The terrestrial operators could have put variety in their formats a long time ago, but didn't." Mr. Del Colliano then said that we are witnessing "the sunset of traditional broadcasting."

And this is why I will NEVER agree with DE on anything radio-related. His passion is the business of radio but he has never exhibited any passion for radio, the art and science, itself.

In my opinion, suits like him are killing it.

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--->In a fascinating article in today's OC Register entitled, "Fading Frequencies", which discusses the reasons for why radio stations flip formats, there was a quote by a Jerry Del Colliano, a professor of the music industry at USC. He said this about the radio business: "Radio people have screwed up. The terrestrial operators could have put variety in their formats a long time ago, but didn't." Mr. Del Colliano then said that we are witnessing "the sunset of traditional broadcasting."

---->And this is why I will NEVER agree with DE on anything radio-related. His passion is the business of radio but he has never exhibited any passion for radio, the art and science, itself.

----->In my opinion, suits like him are killing it.

Sadly, the OC Register article does not appear to be on the web.

Nor, for that matter, does Deluded Edward-O, for that matter. He's laying pretty low, I hope he didn't stroke out.
 
zumahans said:
--->In a fascinating article in today's OC Register entitled, "Fading Frequencies", which discusses the reasons for why radio stations flip formats, there was a quote by a Jerry Del Colliano, a professor of the music industry at USC. He said this about the radio business: "Radio people have screwed up. The terrestrial operators could have put variety in their formats a long time ago, but didn't." Mr. Del Colliano then said that we are witnessing "the sunset of traditional broadcasting."

---->And this is why I will NEVER agree with DE on anything radio-related. His passion is the business of radio but he has never exhibited any passion for radio, the art and science, itself.

----->In my opinion, suits like him are killing it.

Sadly, the OC Register article does not appear to be on the web.

Nor, for that matter, does Deluded Edward-O, for that matter. He's laying pretty low, I hope he didn't stroke out.

Guess I'm one of those dinosaurs who isn't willing to write off terrestrial radio just yet, I don't see the sunset happening as quickly as Del Colliano does.
If you ask me the print media seems to love trying to put radio into a coffin and put internet, iPod and satellite on top. Thing to remember it that
XM & Sirius have been employing teams of publicists for several years now. Their sole job is to make sure that articles are written about how regular
radio is dead or dying and satellite is the way to go. It may be, but terrestrial radio ain't dead yet. The real problem is the consolidation of radio thanks
to the Communications Act of 1996 and the blind arrogance of radio owners who didn't or wouldn't see it all coming. They were in denial or just stupid.
Then again, they might just be like owners of other industries that went down the tubes, they got in, made their cash and sold out. That's what happens
when you have monopolies run by guys who only care about themselves or their stockholders.

Not to change the subject, but I must admit that the attacks on DE have been a little rough to read lately. I was never of fan of K.M. Richards, I got slapped down more than once by old KM for some weird reason that only he could explain and no one else could understand, and DE has been Mister-know-it-all with his constant "I've got the stat's" act, and man he does have them, but it does seem like some of the posters have been spending a little too much time going after him.

I'm pretty sure that my posts get ignored by many, so why don't we just ignore his instead of being so personal with the nasty comments. I always defend myself when attacked, but I can see why DE hasn't been posting the last few days. I for one enjoy many of the comments from posters on this board. For the most part I learn more about radio, and I hope that I can at times be a teacher as well. I guess what I'm saying is, why can't we make our points without the name calling? That being said, I agree that the "suits" are ruining radio with too much research and not enough guts and passion...

I'm sure someone will slap me to the mat now and pin me for a three count, but I'm just giving my opinion...
 
Re: KMPC 4 Sale Re: for Calguy

Mr. Calguy I entirely agree with you on the name calling, time to tone it down. As far as DE is concerened I say give the man a chance. But he does get carried away some times but generally speaking his comments are not so far off the mark. But when he is, he can be way off the wall! The success of radio in the past was due to the fact that the age of the listeners was very young and due to all the turbulence of the times and the fact that there was a lot of great music being created and radio reflected it very well, but one can hardly say that today because there are a lot of other ways to spend ones time that didn't exist then!
 
Yeah, a little less name calling and intentional goading would be great.

When David and the others discuss radio, it is quite informative and I learn a lot. When the subject turns to the poster himself, it becomes quite tedious to read and you come off as arguing 10 year olds.

I do appreciate the moderate level of moderation around here. People shouldn't feel that they are stiffled because they don't agree with the (oftentimes erroneous) views of the moderators.


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KJCB said:
Neither of Salem's LA FMs are in HD. Anything other than the current incarnation of KKLA would be a bad move for Salem considering how little it costs to run and how much it brings in, without needing hordes of AEs on the street.

Uh hello, who do you think is out there selling KFSH? The Smurfs?

It would be a great move for 99.5, they would go in and sell the country format first and formost, then they could co sell KFSH as a value added deal.

Country is not a declining format nationally, it was pulled in LA because Emmis couldn't co sell it with KPWR. Plain and simple.

And KKLA wouldn't lose a damn thing by being on 1540, if I have to say 10,000 times, I will say it once again....CRACKPOT PREACHERS WILL CONTINUE TO BUY EVEN THE CRAPPIEST AM IN LA...why? Because if even only 1000 people send in donations, they've done good enough because those suckers will pony up big money thinking their lives will be changed.

And as for "we don't have enough Religious on AM already" well, other then prehaps the religious music, that is where that crap belongs.
 
Someone is actually selling The Fish? :D God knows that format's power ratio is as weak as KFSH's signal.

As to Emmis' co-sales opportunities, the argument is somewhat facile in that Power and Movin' don't have as much duplication as you'd imply. What more, if country was so successful, someone else with a more country-friendly cluster would pick it up. Even the home of "Wheel of Formats" have ignored it.

KKLA would lose money on 1540... being on FM puts it on the band where over 80% of the listenership is. They have young and female listeners that haven't heard of the AM band. Those people would go away. They'd listen to The Fish or something else. Crackpot preachers who buy time aren't stupid... they track response by station and make adjustments accordingly. Many of them insist on several months of free clearance in order to determine what they're willing to pay based on response. Bottom line: fewer suckers listening = lower rates. Even if people wanted to listen, that 1540 signal doesn't exactly make it easy.

While I'll agree the religious element has to infiltrate every otherwise credible medium with their message, the content "belongs", as you put it, wherever an operator can justify the balance sheet to put it. Salem makes money with it. Now if someone wanted to pay hundreds of millions to buy the thing, perhaps we can talk then.
 
Or you can go the route Catholic Spanish Radio did with 1670 in Moreno Valley. They full-time leased the station then picked up their option to buy nine months later.
 
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