interesting. No threads from mamaknowsbest, talkerdjdude, takeitfromme or any of the others who were in love with himself, er I mean FITZ and the rest of the crew since the new book came out and KMPS did well. 
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KMPS and WOLF recent ratings
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mammaknowsbest
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Guess you didn't read my recent thread on MOVIN. Seems I was right about ratings and the air talent starting by the end of the year. Top of the line talent, the best mixer in the market and a mega talent from Atlanta.
WOLF did fine and were hit by one bad trend. To quote everyone else we are in the four book business. Year to year the WOLF was way up and MOVIN up even more.
Change is here, no matter how much you fight it. By the way what ever happened to Iknowitall, AM/FM, Bushwickbill, Original Larry, Danadee. Let me think?
Could it be they are all not working in Seattle anymore. Seems to me Mamma, Talkerdj and Takeitfrom are the new crew in town.
WOLF did fine and were hit by one bad trend. To quote everyone else we are in the four book business. Year to year the WOLF was way up and MOVIN up even more.
Change is here, no matter how much you fight it. By the way what ever happened to Iknowitall, AM/FM, Bushwickbill, Original Larry, Danadee. Let me think?
Could it be they are all not working in Seattle anymore. Seems to me Mamma, Talkerdj and Takeitfrom are the new crew in town.
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airwaver
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Yeah
..wait until 2007...
..wait until 2007...
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Kelly
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The "Movin" format is short-lived, just like Jack. Spend some TV ad dollars launching any new format, and you're sure to get a sample-pop for about one full book. Unless you keep that level of TV up, (like KBSG used to do years ago), the format will settle into middle, to lower middle of the pack 18-24F. See you on the bottom in three years, that is unless they change to the latest flavor of female-appeal formats before it settles.
So keep handing out the Oberto and cheap T-shirts there Mamma. And while you're at it, maybe rearrange some deck chairs too.
So keep handing out the Oberto and cheap T-shirts there Mamma. And while you're at it, maybe rearrange some deck chairs too.
Nice to hear you missed me kookoo, I'm touched. It was a strong book for KMPS, but in that money demo Ichabod slipped to 3rd. And 18-34 the Wolf was solid.
What I don't understand about this board is how people gripe about stations that aren't local, and they complain about the oldtimers, which I've done too. But then when someone young and local comes on, people are quick to rip 'em down. I do like Fitz and his young, upbeat style over Ichabod's. I think the two stations are both going to continue to be viable. Look at Portland. And I think Grandpa Ichabod's schtick is going to continue to attract older demos, while Fitz will bring young people into the format.
What I don't understand about this board is how people gripe about stations that aren't local, and they complain about the oldtimers, which I've done too. But then when someone young and local comes on, people are quick to rip 'em down. I do like Fitz and his young, upbeat style over Ichabod's. I think the two stations are both going to continue to be viable. Look at Portland. And I think Grandpa Ichabod's schtick is going to continue to attract older demos, while Fitz will bring young people into the format.
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yoyo205
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talkerdjdude said:But then when someone young and local comes on, people are quick to rip 'em down.
The answer to this question is easy... It's just plain jealousy. I admit, I gave FITZ some sh!t on this board among others. But what it all boils down to is plain jealousy. How cool would it be to have your own morning show in market #14?? Hell, I'd love it! If it's not jealousy, it's employees of other stations that feel threatened... maybe a few posters from good ol KMPS??
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AQH
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mammaknowsbest said:Guess you didn't read my recent thread on MOVIN. Seems I was right about ratings and the air talent starting by the end of the year. Top of the line talent, the best mixer in the market and a mega talent from Atlanta.
I read your recent thread, I even posted there. But you apparently weren't in the mood to reply.
Let's look at the videotape.
mammaknowsbest said:4. Look for steller air-talent after the first of the year
Let's see what has happened?
4. Air-talent: the search is narrowed and get ready after the first of the year.
Going by what you said before, you apparently have changed your tune.
Therefore, you either....
A) Don't consider the girl from Atlanta "steller air-talent."
or
B) You really don't know what you're talking about.
Which is it?
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mammaknowsbest said:To quote everyone else we are in the four book business. Year to year the WOLF was way up and MOVIN up even more.
Tell us, how many years have The Wolf and Movin been on the air?
Look forward to your answers!
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mammaknowsbest
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More talent to come after the first of year, but Sandusky was able to land two key players earlier. Sorry AQH if MOVIN is moving too fast for you. Maybe you should stick to programming KBKS, KPLZ or KUBE where things are slowing down quite a bit. Feeling a bit trapped, forced to lash out on radioinfo?
MOVIN has been on the air since May and has delivered two solid books and is up year to year and book to book. WOLF will have been on a year in exactly 60 days. They are up 40% on the three book from the old format, which means the four book is likely to be up too. Even if they pull a one in the final book, the four book will be up. I guess math wasn't your major AQH. Do you even know what makes up an AQH? How about gross rating points? I don't await your answer, I already know. Sounds to me like AQH is a guy PD, who
doesn't like it when a woman enters your world with a brain. Sorry.
MOVIN has been on the air since May and has delivered two solid books and is up year to year and book to book. WOLF will have been on a year in exactly 60 days. They are up 40% on the three book from the old format, which means the four book is likely to be up too. Even if they pull a one in the final book, the four book will be up. I guess math wasn't your major AQH. Do you even know what makes up an AQH? How about gross rating points? I don't await your answer, I already know. Sounds to me like AQH is a guy PD, who
doesn't like it when a woman enters your world with a brain. Sorry.
I find the inaccurate use of ratings and speculation on this board very funny, especially from a sales point of view. A four-book is just that: the average of four ratings books of a station in a format, with a specific look at the trending in the last two. MOVIN and WOLF both don't have a four-book average. In Winter 07 we will see the four-book for WOLF and the trending in Summer 06 and Fall 06. In July 07 we will see the four-book for MOVIN and will look closely at the trending in Winter 07 and Spring 07. Until then I would only buy these stations to fill in or at a low rate for a specific targeted client.
No annual buys: period!
JACK is a great example of why you wait for the four book. JACK had a great four book in Summer 06, but the trending was ugly. All of the ratings were in the launch book and Fall 05. The last two books were trending down. Media buyers take that into account.
Though I truly doubt AQH is a Program Director at KBKS, KPLZ or KUBE, it is incorrect to say all of these stations are dead or dying. KPLZ has actually been on the increase since the beginning of the year, KUBE remains very solid on a four book. Only KBKS, of these three, is having significant trouble and may be forced to change or adjust.
No annual buys: period!
JACK is a great example of why you wait for the four book. JACK had a great four book in Summer 06, but the trending was ugly. All of the ratings were in the launch book and Fall 05. The last two books were trending down. Media buyers take that into account.
Though I truly doubt AQH is a Program Director at KBKS, KPLZ or KUBE, it is incorrect to say all of these stations are dead or dying. KPLZ has actually been on the increase since the beginning of the year, KUBE remains very solid on a four book. Only KBKS, of these three, is having significant trouble and may be forced to change or adjust.
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AQH
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mammaknowsbest said:More talent to come after the first of year, but Sandusky was able to land two key players earlier. Sorry AQH if MOVIN is moving too fast for you. Maybe you should stick to programming KBKS, KPLZ or KUBE where things are slowing down quite a bit. Feeling a bit trapped, forced to lash out on radioinfo?
MOVIN has been on the air since May and has delivered two solid books and is up year to year and book to book. WOLF will have been on a year in exactly 60 days. They are up 40% on the three book from the old format, which means the four book is likely to be up too. Even if they pull a one in the final book, the four book will be up. I guess math wasn't your major AQH. Do you even know what makes up an AQH? How about gross rating points? I don't await your answer, I already know. Sounds to me like AQH is a guy PD, who
doesn't like it when a woman enters your world with a brain. Sorry.
The reason I posted what I did was to demonstrate how your observations are flawed.
I was going to point out a couple more things that prove your cluelessness, not just about Movin', but about radio in general. But with each post, you're doing a better job of that than I, or anyone else could ever do.
AQH said:mammaknowsbest said:More talent to come after the first of year, but Sandusky was able to land two key players earlier. Sorry AQH if MOVIN is moving too fast for you. Maybe you should stick to programming KBKS, KPLZ or KUBE where things are slowing down quite a bit. Feeling a bit trapped, forced to lash out on radioinfo?
MOVIN has been on the air since May and has delivered two solid books and is up year to year and book to book. WOLF will have been on a year in exactly 60 days. They are up 40% on the three book from the old format, which means the four book is likely to be up too. Even if they pull a one in the final book, the four book will be up. I guess math wasn't your major AQH. Do you even know what makes up an AQH? How about gross rating points? I don't await your answer, I already know. Sounds to me like AQH is a guy PD, who
doesn't like it when a woman enters your world with a brain. Sorry.
The reason I posted what I did was to demonstrate how your observations are flawed.
I was going to point out a couple more things that prove your cluelessness, not just about Movin', but about radio in general. But with each post, you're doing a better job of that than I, or anyone else could ever do.
Oh Mamma....God love ya! "Sandusky was able to land two key players"....let me give you a translation: Sandusky/Marc Kaye is incredibly cheap so they agreed to hire two beginners....neither of whom will probably even be full-time employees! Major Market talent and Mr. Kaye simply do not mix. He seems to have contempt for talent; that is why he treated Murdock, Hunter, and Alice like he did. After 14 years on the air, he fired them only minutes before the staff Christmas party....hmmm, classy (pun intended). He does not work with agents, has a total policy against providing talent with contracts, and will do whatever it takes to secure his own employment...even if that means firing the HR director! The problem with the Factoria complex is that Mr. Kaye is able to make all of the decisions without the input or protest of any lower level managers present in most other major market operations.
Ms. Mamma, since you are implying that AQH is a "guy PD" with possible connections to KBKS, KPLS, or KUBE, why don't you take this opportunity to enlighten us all to your exact position in Seattle radio. I for one am moderately curious how you seem to know so much about the programming desicions at KQMV? You have stated emphatically that you are not the PD at KQMV, but you seem to know a great deal of information that one would think only the PD would know. Congrats at the success you have seen at your very young station, but your bellicose comments about the amazing work being performed around the country by the "Seattle Team", and your other gross exaggerations about KQMV's success to date, have become laughable.
Don't forget how fast/far Gary Nolan ran away!
Oh please...know what you're talking about before you post.
Gary left because his wife hated Seattle and both of them wanted to get back to the East Coast, where they are both originally from. He took a job in Raleigh--which he has since resigned from--because he has family living there.
biffhenderson said:Oh Mamma....God love ya! "Sandusky was able to land two key players"....let me give you a translation: Sandusky/Marc Kaye is incredibly cheap so they agreed to hire two beginners....neither of whom will probably even be full-time employees! Major Market talent and Mr. Kaye simply do not mix. He seems to have contempt for talent; that is why he treated Murdock, Hunter, and Alice like he did. After 14 years on the air, he fired them only minutes before the staff Christmas party....hmmm, classy (pun intended).
And let's remember the swell number he did on KIXI too, blowing off 20 year Sandusky vets by kicking them to the curb. Gawd, MOYL is dry as Denny's toast. But boy that bottom line looks great doesn't it?
Let's steer this thread...Who are the GM's who DO get it?
nodisclosureguy said:Oh please...know what you're talking about before you post.
Being a friend of Gary's, I *do* know. And yeah, since the new job wasn't quite as advertised, he left that, too. Old news.
The topic was Marc Kaye, not Gary Nolan. Gary's was/is one more example of what is wrong with Marc; hence my post.
The topic was Marc Kaye, not Gary Nolan. Gary's was/is one more example of what is wrong with Marc; hence my post.
Whatever. You were the one who introduced Gary's departure to the discussion.
If you want to cite something from Gary's experience at Warm to criticize Marc Kaye, that's fine. His departure, however, was mostly due to personal factors that had nothing to do with Marc. If you really know Gary as you claim to, you know that that is the case.
nodisclosureguy said:If you really know Gary as you claim to, you know that that is the case.
And you know what Gary wants you to know. Good for you.
Marc Kaye strikes again!
And now with Lisa gone.....yeah, Marc's one of the "good guys."
pbf1 said:The topic was Marc Kaye, not Gary Nolan. Gary's was/is one more example of what is wrong with Marc; hence my post.
And now with Lisa gone.....yeah, Marc's one of the "good guys."
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