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Is it true that the Knicks were on WNBC-AM? If so, how long were the Knicks on WNBC 660?
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You might get a more specific answer, but as I was 100% certain I remembered listening to Marv call games on there, I tried googling specifics, and came up empty. I did fimd out the team was on WCBS for a short time in the 63-64 time frame. Maybe 2 seasons, and post Wilt 100.
Perhaps someone can provide specific fact, but I wanna say the Knicks were on 66 as WNBC for several (5-8 years). I'm gonna guess they carried the Knicks until WHN picked them up. Shaky "info," but the team was definitely on 66 as WNBC for a spell.
Perhaps someone can provide specific fact, but I wanna say the Knicks were on 66 as WNBC for several (5-8 years). I'm gonna guess they carried the Knicks until WHN picked them up. Shaky "info," but the team was definitely on 66 as WNBC for a spell.
The Knicks were on WNBC-AM-660 in 1965 (1 year); then back from 1970-1973 (4 years); and finally from 1985-1987 (3 years).
According to my records... in 1965 Bill Mazer did play by play; from 1970-71, Marv Albert called the games alone; John Andariese joined Marv starting in 1972, and in 1973, Cal Ramsey and Bob Wolff also helped out.
In 1985, it was Albert and Andariese, and when those two switched to TV (MSG) in 1986, Ernie Grunfeld and Jim Karvellas took over the mic on WNBC-AM. On October 7, 1988, 660 became WFAN as the 1988-89 season was getting underway.
According to my records... in 1965 Bill Mazer did play by play; from 1970-71, Marv Albert called the games alone; John Andariese joined Marv starting in 1972, and in 1973, Cal Ramsey and Bob Wolff also helped out.
In 1985, it was Albert and Andariese, and when those two switched to TV (MSG) in 1986, Ernie Grunfeld and Jim Karvellas took over the mic on WNBC-AM. On October 7, 1988, 660 became WFAN as the 1988-89 season was getting underway.
The Knicks were on both WOR TV and radio during the 70's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970–71_New_York_Knicks_season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970–71_New_York_Knicks_season
The New York Rangers were also on WNBC-660 during the same times the Knicks were on.
And I'm pretty certain that the teams, through their parent company (Madison Square Garden), bought the airtime and sold the commercial spots.
In fact, during this time, not every regular-season game of either team were broadcast on radio. WNBC generally broadcast all home games of the two teams, and away games not televised on WOR/WWOR-9 (during most of the 1970's, 20 or 25 regular-season away games of each team were televised each year; by the mid-1980's, about 30 away games of each would be on WOR/WWOR). Televised road games during the regular-season were generally not broadcast on radio back then.
Between WNBC's two tenures as Knicks/Rangers flagship, the old WNEW-1130 carried both teams. Ironically today as WBBR, 1130 sometimes broadcasts whichever team can't be accommodated by WEPN because both are playing at the same time.
During the playoffs, whenever possible, all postseason games of both the Knicks and Rangers were broadcast by "66 WNNNNNNBC", even if some playoff games were televised by WOR/WWOR or on network TV.
Today, both teams still share the same kind of radio deal, although MSG now pays WEPN-98.7 for the airtime. And every game of both teams is now heard on radio: If both the Knicks and Rangers are playing at the same time, WEPN gets one game (usually, but not always, whichever team plays at home) and MSG arranges for another station to pick-up the other game (usually, but not always, the team playing on the road).
And I'm pretty certain that the teams, through their parent company (Madison Square Garden), bought the airtime and sold the commercial spots.
In fact, during this time, not every regular-season game of either team were broadcast on radio. WNBC generally broadcast all home games of the two teams, and away games not televised on WOR/WWOR-9 (during most of the 1970's, 20 or 25 regular-season away games of each team were televised each year; by the mid-1980's, about 30 away games of each would be on WOR/WWOR). Televised road games during the regular-season were generally not broadcast on radio back then.
Between WNBC's two tenures as Knicks/Rangers flagship, the old WNEW-1130 carried both teams. Ironically today as WBBR, 1130 sometimes broadcasts whichever team can't be accommodated by WEPN because both are playing at the same time.
During the playoffs, whenever possible, all postseason games of both the Knicks and Rangers were broadcast by "66 WNNNNNNBC", even if some playoff games were televised by WOR/WWOR or on network TV.
Today, both teams still share the same kind of radio deal, although MSG now pays WEPN-98.7 for the airtime. And every game of both teams is now heard on radio: If both the Knicks and Rangers are playing at the same time, WEPN gets one game (usually, but not always, whichever team plays at home) and MSG arranges for another station to pick-up the other game (usually, but not always, the team playing on the road).
From the Knicks media guide 2012-13 - http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/knicks/201213_Media_Guide.pdf
(from Table Of Contents select "The Fourth Estate")
Goes to show: don't believe everything that's written in Wikipedia. I had been fairly sure in my mind that the Knicks (and Rangers) had moved to 660 from 1050 in the early 1970s. The lists below seem to be accurate - feel free to adjust, if necessary.
Agree with Joseph Gallant's post about the road TV games not being on radio, etc.
It wasn't until the majority of the Knicks games (home + road) were on MSG Network that all games were on radio (likely sometime in the mid-1980s).
Tip o' the hat to AlexBrowne as well who had the same info as below.
We'll give you both the radio and TV history while we're at it - a little trip down memory lane:
RADIO HISTORY
Season Announcers Primary Outlet
1946-47 - 1947-48....Marty Glickman, Stan Lomax ..................................................WHN 1050
1948-49..................Marty Glickman, Connie Desmond ..........................................WMGM 1050
1949-50 - 1950-51....Marty Glickman, Bud Palmer .................................................WMGM 1050
1951-52 - 1952-53....Marty Glickman, Johnny Most ...............................................WMGM 1050
1953-54..................Marty Glickman, Burt Lee Jr. .................................................WMGM 1050
1954-55..................Marty Glickman, Jim Gordon ..................................................WMGM 1050
1955-56..................Les Keiter, Jim Gordon .......................................................... WINS 1010
1956-57..................Marty Glickman, Les Keiter .................................................... WINS 1010
1957-58 - 1958-59....Les Keiter, Jim Gordon ..........................................................WINS 1010
1959-60..................Les Keiter, John Condon ........................................................WINS 1010
1960-61..................No Coverage
1961-62..................Les Keiter ...........................................................................WINS 1010
1962-63..................Marty Glickman .................................................................... WCBS 880
1963-64..................No Coverage
1964-65..................Lester Smith, Stan Lomax .........................................................WOR 710
1965-66..................Bill Mazer .............................................................................WNBC 660
1966-67..................Don Criqui ........................................................................... WHN 1050
1967-68 - 1969-70....Marv Albert ....................................................................... . WHN 1050
1970-71 - 1971-72....Marv Albert ..........................................................................WNBC 660
1972-73 - 1973-74....Marv Albert, John Andariese ....................................................WNBC 660
1974-75 - 1975-76....Marv Albert, John Andariese ..................................................WNEW 1130
1976-77 - 1981-82....Marv Albert, Richie Guerin, Bob Wolff ......................................WNEW 1130
1982-83 - 1983-84....Marv Albert, John Andariese, Bob Wolff ...................................WNEW 1130
1984-85..................Marv Albert, John Andariese, Bob Wolff ......................................WPAT 930
1985-86..................Marv Albert, John Andariese, Bob Wolff ......................................WNBC 660
1986-87 - 1987-88....Jim Karvellas, Ernie Grunfeld ....................................................WNBC 660
1988-89..................Jim Karvellas, Ernie Grunfeld .................................................... WFAN 660
1989-90 - 1991-92....Jim Karvellas, Walt Frazier ...................................................... WFAN 660
1992-93 - 1996-97....Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, John Minko ........................................ WFAN 660
1997-98..................Gus Johnson, Walt Frazier, John Minko ...................................... WFAN 660
1998-99..................Marv Albert, John Andariese, John Minko ................................... WFAN 660
1999-2000...............Marv Albert, John Andariese, Gus Johnson, Spencer Ross .......... WFAN 660
2000-01 – 2001-02... Mike Breen, John Andariese, Gus Johnson, Spencer Ross .. .......... WFAN 660
2002-03...................Mike Breen, John Andariese, Gus Johnson ................................. WFAN 660
2003-04...................Mike Breen, John Andariese, Gus Johnson ................................. WFAN 660
2004-05...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Spencer Ross ......................ESPN Radio 1050
2005-06...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Spencer Ross ......................ESPN Radio 1050
2006-07...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Spencer Ross ......................ESPN Radio 1050
2007-08...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Mike Crispino ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2008-09...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Mike Crispino ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2009-10...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Mike Crispino ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2010-11...................Mike Crispino, John Andariese, Kenny Albert ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2011-12...................Spero Dedes, John Andariese, Brendan Brown ................... ESPN Radio 1050
2012-13 Spero Dedes, Brendan Brown, Mike Crispino ESPN Radio 98.7
Original list compiled by Dave Halberstam & Dick Barhold
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TELEVISION HISTORY
Season Announcers Primary Outlet
1946-47....................Jack O’Reilly ..........................................................................WCBS-2
1947-48....................Stan Lomax .............................................................................WJZ-7
1948-49....................Don Kellett ................................................................WOR-9, WPIX-11
1949-50....................Stan Lomax .............................................................WABD-5, WPIX-11
1950-51....................Curt Gowdy, Don Dunphy ....................................................... WPIX-11
1951-52 - 1953-54......Bud Palmer .......................................................................... WPIX-11
1954-55 - 1955-56......Bob Wolff, Bud Palmer ........................................................... WPIX-11
1956-57 - 1957-58......Bob Wolff, Sonny Hertzberg .................................................... WPIX-11
1958-59 - 1959-60......Bob Wolff ............................................................................ WPIX-11
1960-61 - 1961-62......No Coverage
1962-63 - 1963-64......Bob Wolff ............................................................................ WPIX-11
Marty Glickman .................................................RKO Phonovision (cable)
1964-65 - 1965-66......Bob Wolff ...............................................................................WOR-9
1966-67....................Don Criqui ...............................................................................WOR-9
1967-68 - 1968-69......Bob Wolff, Jim Gordon ...............................................................WOR-9
1969-70....................Bob Wolff .......................................................WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
Marty Glickman ...........................................................Manhattan Cable
1970-71....................Bob Wolff, Jim Gordon .......................................WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1971-72....................Bob Wolff, Tommy Byrnes ................................. WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1972-73 - 1974-75......Bob Wolff, Cal Ramsey ..................................... WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1975-76....................Dick Stockton, Cal Ramsey ................................ WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1976-77 - 1978-79......Andy Musser, Cal Ramsey ..................................WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1979-80....................Marv Albert, Cal Ramsey ...................................................WOR-9 (road)
Andy Musser, Cal Ramsey ...................................Manhattan Cable (home)
1980-81 - 1981-82......Marv Albert, Cal Ramsey .................................................. WOR-9 (road)
Jim Karvellas, Cal Ramsey ..................................... MSG Network (home)
1982-83 - 1985-86......Marv Albert, Butch Beard ..................................................WOR-9 (road)
Jim Karvellas, Butch Beard .......................................MSG Network (home)
1986-87 - 1988-89......Marv Albert, John Andariese .................................WWOR-9, MSG Network
1989-90 - 1996-97......Marv Albert, John Andariese ...............................................MSG Network
1997-98....................Mike Breen, John Andariese ................................................MSG Network
1998-99 - 1999-2000.. Mike Breen, Walt Frazier ....................................................MSG Network
2000-01 - 2002-03......Marv Albert, Walt Frazier, Mike Breen ...................................MSG Network
2003-04.....................Marv Albert, Walt Frazier, Mike Breen, Doug Collins .................MSG Network
2004-05.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier ....................................................MSG Network
2005-06.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2006-07.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2007-08.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2008-09.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2009-10.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Kenny Albert ..................................MSG Network
2010-11.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Kenny Albert ..................................MSG Network
2011-12.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Spero Dedes ..................................MSG Network
2012-13.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Spero Dedes ..................................MSG Network
A quote from the media guide:
When usually I came to visit him at dusk there was nothing to do. He stood in the shack, counting tickets and rubbing his belly.
The radio was always on. “Man, have you dug that mad Marty Glickman announcing basketball games – up-to-midcourt-bouncefake-
set-shot, swish, two points. Absolutely the greatest announcer I ever heard.” He was reduced to simple pleasures like these.
– From “On The Road” by Jack Kerouac
(from Table Of Contents select "The Fourth Estate")
Goes to show: don't believe everything that's written in Wikipedia. I had been fairly sure in my mind that the Knicks (and Rangers) had moved to 660 from 1050 in the early 1970s. The lists below seem to be accurate - feel free to adjust, if necessary.
Agree with Joseph Gallant's post about the road TV games not being on radio, etc.
It wasn't until the majority of the Knicks games (home + road) were on MSG Network that all games were on radio (likely sometime in the mid-1980s).
Tip o' the hat to AlexBrowne as well who had the same info as below.
We'll give you both the radio and TV history while we're at it - a little trip down memory lane:
RADIO HISTORY
Season Announcers Primary Outlet
1946-47 - 1947-48....Marty Glickman, Stan Lomax ..................................................WHN 1050
1948-49..................Marty Glickman, Connie Desmond ..........................................WMGM 1050
1949-50 - 1950-51....Marty Glickman, Bud Palmer .................................................WMGM 1050
1951-52 - 1952-53....Marty Glickman, Johnny Most ...............................................WMGM 1050
1953-54..................Marty Glickman, Burt Lee Jr. .................................................WMGM 1050
1954-55..................Marty Glickman, Jim Gordon ..................................................WMGM 1050
1955-56..................Les Keiter, Jim Gordon .......................................................... WINS 1010
1956-57..................Marty Glickman, Les Keiter .................................................... WINS 1010
1957-58 - 1958-59....Les Keiter, Jim Gordon ..........................................................WINS 1010
1959-60..................Les Keiter, John Condon ........................................................WINS 1010
1960-61..................No Coverage
1961-62..................Les Keiter ...........................................................................WINS 1010
1962-63..................Marty Glickman .................................................................... WCBS 880
1963-64..................No Coverage
1964-65..................Lester Smith, Stan Lomax .........................................................WOR 710
1965-66..................Bill Mazer .............................................................................WNBC 660
1966-67..................Don Criqui ........................................................................... WHN 1050
1967-68 - 1969-70....Marv Albert ....................................................................... . WHN 1050
1970-71 - 1971-72....Marv Albert ..........................................................................WNBC 660
1972-73 - 1973-74....Marv Albert, John Andariese ....................................................WNBC 660
1974-75 - 1975-76....Marv Albert, John Andariese ..................................................WNEW 1130
1976-77 - 1981-82....Marv Albert, Richie Guerin, Bob Wolff ......................................WNEW 1130
1982-83 - 1983-84....Marv Albert, John Andariese, Bob Wolff ...................................WNEW 1130
1984-85..................Marv Albert, John Andariese, Bob Wolff ......................................WPAT 930
1985-86..................Marv Albert, John Andariese, Bob Wolff ......................................WNBC 660
1986-87 - 1987-88....Jim Karvellas, Ernie Grunfeld ....................................................WNBC 660
1988-89..................Jim Karvellas, Ernie Grunfeld .................................................... WFAN 660
1989-90 - 1991-92....Jim Karvellas, Walt Frazier ...................................................... WFAN 660
1992-93 - 1996-97....Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, John Minko ........................................ WFAN 660
1997-98..................Gus Johnson, Walt Frazier, John Minko ...................................... WFAN 660
1998-99..................Marv Albert, John Andariese, John Minko ................................... WFAN 660
1999-2000...............Marv Albert, John Andariese, Gus Johnson, Spencer Ross .......... WFAN 660
2000-01 – 2001-02... Mike Breen, John Andariese, Gus Johnson, Spencer Ross .. .......... WFAN 660
2002-03...................Mike Breen, John Andariese, Gus Johnson ................................. WFAN 660
2003-04...................Mike Breen, John Andariese, Gus Johnson ................................. WFAN 660
2004-05...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Spencer Ross ......................ESPN Radio 1050
2005-06...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Spencer Ross ......................ESPN Radio 1050
2006-07...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Spencer Ross ......................ESPN Radio 1050
2007-08...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Mike Crispino ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2008-09...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Mike Crispino ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2009-10...................Gus Johnson, John Andariese, Mike Crispino ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2010-11...................Mike Crispino, John Andariese, Kenny Albert ...................... ESPN Radio 1050
2011-12...................Spero Dedes, John Andariese, Brendan Brown ................... ESPN Radio 1050
2012-13 Spero Dedes, Brendan Brown, Mike Crispino ESPN Radio 98.7
Original list compiled by Dave Halberstam & Dick Barhold
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TELEVISION HISTORY
Season Announcers Primary Outlet
1946-47....................Jack O’Reilly ..........................................................................WCBS-2
1947-48....................Stan Lomax .............................................................................WJZ-7
1948-49....................Don Kellett ................................................................WOR-9, WPIX-11
1949-50....................Stan Lomax .............................................................WABD-5, WPIX-11
1950-51....................Curt Gowdy, Don Dunphy ....................................................... WPIX-11
1951-52 - 1953-54......Bud Palmer .......................................................................... WPIX-11
1954-55 - 1955-56......Bob Wolff, Bud Palmer ........................................................... WPIX-11
1956-57 - 1957-58......Bob Wolff, Sonny Hertzberg .................................................... WPIX-11
1958-59 - 1959-60......Bob Wolff ............................................................................ WPIX-11
1960-61 - 1961-62......No Coverage
1962-63 - 1963-64......Bob Wolff ............................................................................ WPIX-11
Marty Glickman .................................................RKO Phonovision (cable)
1964-65 - 1965-66......Bob Wolff ...............................................................................WOR-9
1966-67....................Don Criqui ...............................................................................WOR-9
1967-68 - 1968-69......Bob Wolff, Jim Gordon ...............................................................WOR-9
1969-70....................Bob Wolff .......................................................WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
Marty Glickman ...........................................................Manhattan Cable
1970-71....................Bob Wolff, Jim Gordon .......................................WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1971-72....................Bob Wolff, Tommy Byrnes ................................. WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1972-73 - 1974-75......Bob Wolff, Cal Ramsey ..................................... WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1975-76....................Dick Stockton, Cal Ramsey ................................ WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1976-77 - 1978-79......Andy Musser, Cal Ramsey ..................................WOR-9, Manhattan Cable
1979-80....................Marv Albert, Cal Ramsey ...................................................WOR-9 (road)
Andy Musser, Cal Ramsey ...................................Manhattan Cable (home)
1980-81 - 1981-82......Marv Albert, Cal Ramsey .................................................. WOR-9 (road)
Jim Karvellas, Cal Ramsey ..................................... MSG Network (home)
1982-83 - 1985-86......Marv Albert, Butch Beard ..................................................WOR-9 (road)
Jim Karvellas, Butch Beard .......................................MSG Network (home)
1986-87 - 1988-89......Marv Albert, John Andariese .................................WWOR-9, MSG Network
1989-90 - 1996-97......Marv Albert, John Andariese ...............................................MSG Network
1997-98....................Mike Breen, John Andariese ................................................MSG Network
1998-99 - 1999-2000.. Mike Breen, Walt Frazier ....................................................MSG Network
2000-01 - 2002-03......Marv Albert, Walt Frazier, Mike Breen ...................................MSG Network
2003-04.....................Marv Albert, Walt Frazier, Mike Breen, Doug Collins .................MSG Network
2004-05.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier ....................................................MSG Network
2005-06.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2006-07.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2007-08.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2008-09.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Gus Johnson ..................................MSG Network
2009-10.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Kenny Albert ..................................MSG Network
2010-11.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Kenny Albert ..................................MSG Network
2011-12.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Spero Dedes ..................................MSG Network
2012-13.....................Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, Spero Dedes ..................................MSG Network
A quote from the media guide:
When usually I came to visit him at dusk there was nothing to do. He stood in the shack, counting tickets and rubbing his belly.
The radio was always on. “Man, have you dug that mad Marty Glickman announcing basketball games – up-to-midcourt-bouncefake-
set-shot, swish, two points. Absolutely the greatest announcer I ever heard.” He was reduced to simple pleasures like these.
– From “On The Road” by Jack Kerouac
Here's another Marty Glickman call of a made basket: "IT'S GOOD LIKE NEDICKS!!!" There will never be another Marty Glickman. 
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