KNRJ Numbers

[Renegade_X]

I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the station tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are greater reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station of commercial dance pop music in 2005).

and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.

 

[azenergyfan]

Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix at all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance stations we have and not put down the stations for lack of ratings or mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance stations. I have always said the station would probably do better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm in phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to Sierra and think of moving Energy to 97.5.



> I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
> what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the station
> tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are greater
> reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station of
> commercial dance pop music in 2005).
>
> and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
>

 

[midwestclubber]

> I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
> what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the station
> tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are greater
> reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station of
> commercial dance pop music in 2005).
>
> and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
>
That station gets no numbers because (NO ONE) can hear it. The Damn stick is too far away, and the translator is a lousy 10 watts, that gets smashed out by 92.3. It had nothing to do with Mikeo, Mikeo gets good numbers on his net stations, and has a loyal audience. Give Mikeo a good signal, and a station in a TOP 10 market and we wouldnt have to be having this conversation right now. It doesnt matter what P.D or what Format that station chooses, if it continues to try to be a Phoenix station it wont get any numbers. They need to focus 101.1 on the Payten area, and other surounding areas, and for 92.7, put it out of its Misery, and let a DXer enjoy that frequency, no one can hear it anyway, you can litterally see the stick, and still have static and distortion. And if you are real close to the 92.7 stick, Power 92.3 splatters all over it.

 

[Renegade_X]

Who said I'm dissing the station? When this forum turned on Mike Oaks because the numbers fell off the face of the planet, I did not. Yes, my post was a bit cocky, but there is a reason for that. It was to point out that success in radio comes in longer than 3 month sections.

This isn't a diss on Energy Arizona mate. Its a challenge to everyone has this simplistic answer to why things aren't working in this format, in AZ or anywhere for that matter. It has little to do with personalities, signal strength, Mike Oaks, Rod Carillo, etc. It has everything to do with a lack of solid mainstream dance music available for radio to play.

Yes I get angry letters telling me to shut up, yes I piss people off when I say the genre is at the lowest point I've seen it in years. And no, I don't agree with CHRles or anyone else that writes and claims there is "alot of great dance out there". There is not. Not that works on the radio and works for the mainstream.

People claim Energy has a weak signal...and it does, but Dance fans are hardcore, so I suspect they'd purchase an antenna for 10 bucks. If they're willing to sit near a computer to listen to digital audio, no doubt they're willing to put up a copper wire in their flat to listen to the station.



Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix at
> all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance stations
> we have and not put down the stations for lack of ratings or
> mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance
> stations. I have always said the station would probably do
> better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm in
> phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in
> crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to Sierra
> and think of moving Energy to 97.5.
>
>
>
> > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
> > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the station
>
> > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are greater
>
> > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station of
>
> > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> >
> > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
> >
>

 

[midwestclubber]

> Who said I'm dissing the station? When this forum turned on
> Mike Oaks because the numbers fell off the face of the
> planet, I did not. Yes, my post was a bit cocky, but there
> is a reason for that. It was to point out that success in
> radio comes in longer than 3 month sections.
>
> This isn't a diss on Energy Arizona mate. Its a challenge
> to everyone has this simplistic answer to why things aren't
> working in this format, in AZ or anywhere for that matter.
> It has little to do with personalities, signal strength,
> Mike Oaks, Rod Carillo, etc. It has everything to do with a
> lack of solid mainstream dance music available for radio to
> play.
>
> Yes I get angry letters telling me to shut up, yes I piss
> people off when I say the genre is at the lowest point I've
> seen it in years. And no, I don't agree with CHRles or
> anyone else that writes and claims there is "alot of great
> dance out there". There is not. Not that works on the
> radio and works for the mainstream.
>
> People claim Energy has a weak signal...and it does, but
> Dance fans are hardcore, so I suspect they'd purchase an
> antenna for 10 bucks. If they're willing to sit near a
> computer to listen to digital audio, no doubt they're
> willing to put up a copper wire in their flat to listen to
> the station.
>
>
>
> Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix at
>
> > all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance
> stations
> > we have and not put down the stations for lack of ratings
> or
> > mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance
> > stations. I have always said the station would probably do
>
> > better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm in
> > phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in
> > crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to Sierra
> > and think of moving Energy to 97.5.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
>
> > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> station
> >
> > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> greater
> >
> > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station
> of
> >
> > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > >
> > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
>
> > >
> >
>
Renegade man, There are a ton of Great Dance tunes out this summer, its one of the best summers for dance in a long time. I think you may be getting your dance from Weak sources. And as for Energy AZ,,,,Nobody cares about a station with a o.o ....... The Best Energy stations are (Energy 98)..And of course (Energy 92.7 San Francisco also Kicking azz. And R.I.P to our former Energy 927 and 5 (CHicago) and the legendary (Energy 108) Hamilton/Toronto... Energy AZ is not even in the same Class as these stations,,, they cant even get there streaming done right now....It Buffers NONSTOP... MIkeo realized the Web Audience is important and kept up the maintenace on the streams...How else can anyone listen with a signal like that?

 

[Renegade_X]

Tons eh? Tons of dance music WE DANCE fans like, or tons of dance music that has wide appeal? Here, take a look at this chart

http://www.energy98stl.com/playlist.html

This isn't a slag on Oaks at all, but that's a chart with nothing but filler. Outside of the odd song, like Guetta's World is Mine and the crossover pop stuff, there is nothing on there. NOTHING. At least nothing that's going to attract wide appeal beyond some hardcore clubbers. Nothing that reaches out and says LISTEN TO ME. Nothing that someone won't reach out and press the next button on their car radio. Remove those big pop crossoevers, like (BLEEP) Cat dolls and the scene looks REALLY bad.

I don't believe I've got old, nor do I believe I've got "sick" of dance music as some claim. But when I turn on my Sirius radio, Energy, even BBC, I don't hear much with even great dance airplay potential. What I hear is lifeless and tired.

And I bet you that's why Energy AZ doesn't have any ratings, because there is nothing to listen too.

Someone commented on Crazy Frog as a bad song for dance? Au contraire. At least Crazy Frog, while annoying, stays in your mind. Can you say the same of Mynt? Tess or Shape UK? Not a chance

Hatemail (and other opinions) may be forwarded to [email protected].
> > > >
> > >
> >
> Renegade man, There are a ton of Great Dance tunes out this
> summer, its one of the best summers for dance in a long
> time. I think you may be getting your dance from Weak
> sources. And as for Energy AZ,,,,Nobody cares about a
> station with a o.o ....... The Best Energy stations are
> (Energy 98)..And of course (Energy 92.7 San Francisco also
> Kicking azz. And R.I.P to our former Energy 927 and 5
> (CHicago) and the legendary (Energy 108) Hamilton/Toronto...
> Energy AZ is not even in the same Class as these stations,,,
> they cant even get there streaming done right now....It
> Buffers NONSTOP... MIkeo realized the Web Audience is
> important and kept up the maintenace on the streams...How
> else can anyone listen with a signal like that?
>

 

[CHRles]

> Who said I'm dissing the station? When this forum turned on
> Mike Oaks because the numbers fell off the face of the
> planet, I did not. Yes, my post was a bit cocky, but there
> is a reason for that. It was to point out that success in
> radio comes in longer than 3 month sections.
>
> This isn't a diss on Energy Arizona mate. Its a challenge
> to everyone has this simplistic answer to why things aren't
> working in this format, in AZ or anywhere for that matter.
> It has little to do with personalities, signal strength,
> Mike Oaks, Rod Carillo, etc. It has everything to do with a
> lack of solid mainstream dance music available for radio to
> play.
>
> Yes I get angry letters telling me to shut up, yes I piss
> people off when I say the genre is at the lowest point I've
> seen it in years. And no, I don't agree with CHRles or
> anyone else that writes and claims there is "alot of great
> dance out there". There is not. Not that works on the
> radio and works for the mainstream.
>
> People claim Energy has a weak signal...and it does, but
> Dance fans are hardcore, so I suspect they'd purchase an
> antenna for 10 bucks. If they're willing to sit near a
> computer to listen to digital audio, no doubt they're
> willing to put up a copper wire in their flat to listen to
> the station.
>

Even though I strongly disagree with you, I've never sent you any angry letters, nor have I ever asked you to shut up. I respect your opinions, and enjoy reading some of your posts.

The facts are that Energy Arizona did use to get some sort of ratings posted in Arbitron before Mike was at the helm, and throughout most of his tenure there.
Now the station doesn't register in the ratings at all, so it's more then likely not due to the lack of strong signal.

There are also PLENTY, I repeat PLENTY of solid Dance tunes both for the clubs and for crossover.

The best example is DHT, which WASN'T huge in Europe, and yet is a European Dance act doing well in America. There are some other good current Dance tunes, whether it's a strong female vocal, a couple of strong 80s loops, some instrumental House and Trance, a cheesy but sweet Euro tinged number, and many other records that do have potential.

Toss in a healthy balance of Dance records from the past 5 years, one or two from the 90s, and an 80s gem every couple of hours, add some top notch personalities, throw in some interesting nightly mixshows (after 9 or 10, not just at 1 AM!), and some good promotions. Pretty much do almost what C-89.5 Seattle does, only on the commercial side of the FM band.

As we've also said, there's also the option of mixing Dance with Top 40/Mainstream (Rock, Pop, Hip Hop/R&B) ala Z-103.5 Toronto. It can work in cities like Vegas, Denver, Baltimore, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and a number of other markets. You know what, it might just work in Phoenix too...on a REAL metro-wide signal.

>
> Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix at
>
> > all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance
> stations
> > we have and not put down the stations for lack of ratings
> or
> > mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance
> > stations. I have always said the station would probably do
>
> > better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm in
> > phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in
> > crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to Sierra
> > and think of moving Energy to 97.5.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
>
> > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> station
> >
> > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> greater
> >
> > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station
> of
> >
> > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > >
> > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
>
> > >
> >
>

 

[Renegade_X]

No CHRles..you have never mailed me nasty letters :?). But I still don't agree with you on all these hits out there. I just don't.

Dance in 2003 & 2004 was better than today. Energy had those in the mix, and in my opinion, the better ratings (albeit better is perhaps not a choice word). Today, they've got nothing to play. Even when I turn on Energy, it seems so lifeless. A year ago, I can remember blasting the stream thinking this station owns my ass, today, it just seems to bleh. It's the music. Nothing has changed elsewhere.

There just isn't enough new dance music coming out to support a full time dance station. You can only spin those classics for so long.

And at the risk of really offending some people on this forum, it scares me when I read so many people defending the state of dance music today. This is good? This is "solid"? And I'm not yapping about being full out mainstream, I'm just talking about releasing some great product. But man, when programmers think we're doing good in 2005, that really reaffirms to me that it's pretty close to over.


>
> Even though I strongly disagree with you, I've never sent
> you any angry letters, nor have I ever asked you to shut up.
> I respect your opinions, and enjoy reading some of your
> posts.
>
> The facts are that Energy Arizona did use to get some sort
> of ratings posted in Arbitron before Mike was at the helm,
> and throughout most of his tenure there.
> Now the station doesn't register in the ratings at all, so
> it's more then likely not due to the lack of strong signal.
>
> There are also PLENTY, I repeat PLENTY of solid Dance tunes
> both for the clubs and for crossover.
>
> The best example is DHT, which WASN'T huge in Europe, and
> yet is a European Dance act doing well in America. There are
> some other good current Dance tunes, whether it's a strong
> female vocal, a couple of strong 80s loops, some
> instrumental House and Trance, a cheesy but sweet Euro
> tinged number, and many other records that do have
> potential.
>
> Toss in a healthy balance of Dance records from the past 5
> years, one or two from the 90s, and an 80s gem every couple
> of hours, add some top notch personalities, throw in some
> interesting nightly mixshows (after 9 or 10, not just at 1
> AM!), and some good promotions. Pretty much do almost what
> C-89.5 Seattle does, only on the commercial side of the FM
> band.
>
> As we've also said, there's also the option of mixing Dance
> with Top 40/Mainstream (Rock, Pop, Hip Hop/R&B) ala Z-103.5
> Toronto. It can work in cities like Vegas, Denver,
> Baltimore, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and a number of other
> markets. You know what, it might just work in Phoenix
> too...on a REAL metro-wide signal.
>
> >
> > Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix
> at
> >
> > > all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance
> > stations
> > > we have and not put down the stations for lack of
> ratings
> > or
> > > mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance
> > > stations. I have always said the station would probably
> do
> >
> > > better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm
> in
> > > phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in
>
> > > crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to
> Sierra
> > > and think of moving Energy to 97.5.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps.
> SO
> >
> > > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> > station
> > >
> > > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> > greater
> > >
> > > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy
> station
> > of
> > >
> > > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > > >
> > > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my
> personality.
> >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

 

[liam808]

> Who said I'm dissing the station? When this forum turned on
> Mike Oaks because the numbers fell off the face of the
> planet, I did not. Yes, my post was a bit cocky, but there
> is a reason for that. It was to point out that success in
> radio comes in longer than 3 month sections.

Who said the forum turned on Mike Oaks? I'm one of those individuals who said that I liked Mike's selection of music, but the bottom line is that even when he WAS at Energy Arizona, the numbers didn't change (yes he was there long enough for there to be change in the numbers eventually).

> This isn't a diss on Energy Arizona mate. Its a challenge
> to everyone has this simplistic answer to why things aren't
> working in this format, in AZ or anywhere for that matter.
> It has little to do with personalities, signal strength,
> Mike Oaks, Rod Carillo, etc. It has everything to do with a
> lack of solid mainstream dance music available for radio to
> play.
>
> Yes I get angry letters telling me to shut up, yes I piss
> people off when I say the genre is at the lowest point I've
> seen it in years. And no, I don't agree with CHRles or
> anyone else that writes and claims there is "alot of great
> dance out there". There is not. Not that works on the
> radio and works for the mainstream.
>
> People claim Energy has a weak signal...and it does, but
> Dance fans are hardcore, so I suspect they'd purchase an
> antenna for 10 bucks. If they're willing to sit near a
> computer to listen to digital audio, no doubt they're
> willing to put up a copper wire in their flat to listen to
> the station.
>

>
>
> Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix at
>
> > all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance
> stations
> > we have and not put down the stations for lack of ratings
> or
> > mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance
> > stations. I have always said the station would probably do
>
> > better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm in
> > phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in
> > crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to Sierra
> > and think of moving Energy to 97.5.

I agree that a stronger signal certainly helps. Dance stations alone cannot help to make this genre stronger. It certainly doesn't help that "hardcore dance fans" are b1tching and moaning about the stations that are around. I'm just happy that there are stations on the fm dial and on the internet that play dance music as a whole. I seriously doubt that the mainstream population is that concerned that there aren't enough "good" songs out there. There ARE good dance songs out there; it's just a shame that the top-40 stations aren't taking a risk on them and are instead playing cheese dance. It's also a shame that by mainstream standards, the definition of dance has changed (Hip-hop = dance). It also upsets me that here in Tucson, a Clear Channel station will market itself as bilingual and play Latino dance music (and throw in an In-Grid song once in awhile, but won't play much English dance music at all), but I don't run the station, dagnabit.

> >
> >
> > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
>
> > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> station
> >
> > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> greater
> >
> > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station
> of
> >
> > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > >
> > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.


I remember a time when the ratings were HIGHER at Energy Arizona Pre-Mike Oaks. I also know that there are times when I am more apt to listen to dance music, and other times I am not. Trends.

 

[CHRles]

> Tons eh? Tons of dance music WE DANCE fans like, or tons of
> dance music that has wide appeal? Here, take a look at this
> chart
>
> http://www.energy98stl.com/playlist.html
>
> This isn't a slag on Oaks at all, but that's a chart with
> nothing but filler. Outside of the odd song, like Guetta's
> World is Mine and the crossover pop stuff, there is nothing
> on there. NOTHING. At least nothing that's going to attract
> wide appeal beyond some hardcore clubbers. Nothing that
> reaches out and says LISTEN TO ME. Nothing that someone
> won't reach out and press the next button on their car
> radio. Remove those big pop crossoevers, like (BLEEP) Cat
> dolls and the scene looks REALLY bad.
>
I think there's a lot of great songs on that list. The beauty of it all is that right now we've got a lot of different sounding Dance tunes, even within the same genre!
I also think a station shouldn't rely on remixes of Pop hits, but playing a few great ones that are timely placed are much appreciated. Case in point, The Killers "Mr. Brightside". A lot of stations, even in Tennessee and Kentucky, play this remix during their weekend mixshows, as of course does Open House Party. In fact, they sometimes play it twice in the same night. So the response can't be that bad.
Kelly Osborne? You've got 2 great versions to choose from, with one that will grab the attention of Dance and New Wave fans, and the other will grab the attention of Dance and female fans.
Add a song like Jupiter Ace, where you hear a number of vocals singing in harmony, not just one!
Then go on to Blaze with his funky, Soulful House, yet crossover delight. This ia great tune, especially for the earlier hours of the day, or to show that you play more then just fast paced Dance tunes.
The Audio Bullys record, like the Carolina Marquez record, have instant appeal in that their were both featured in the same popular movie. In the Audio Bullys case the song has a VERY wide appeal with modern Rock fans, with AC fans, and with both Pop and Dance fans. It's not just another sample and another loop. It's Nancy Sinatra redone for the 21st Century.
Shape UK and Reina have already proven to do well on ADULT leaning Dance stations, such as KTU, and the Diva stations in Louisiana.

So you see, while it may sound like a filler to you, it might be a SMASH with a lot of both Dance and Mainstream fans.

On the other hand, I think the following huge hits are fillers to me:

Pretty Ricky "Grind With Me" (goddamn the lyrics here suck!)
Frankie J "How To Deal" (his first song was good, but this is too much of an Usher rip-off)
50 Cent "Just A Little Bit" (I actually like "Disco Inferno" and love The Game's "Hate It Or Love It")
Lifehouse "You And Me" (okay it's not that bad, but it's not that great either)
Ciara "Oh" (the hook isn't that great here)
The Game "How we Do" (must they always mention in Ciara, 50, and Game records, how they act like fools in the club??)



> I don't believe I've got old, nor do I believe I've got
> "sick" of dance music as some claim. But when I turn on my
> Sirius radio, Energy, even BBC, I don't hear much with even
> great dance airplay potential. What I hear is lifeless and
> tired.
>
> And I bet you that's why Energy AZ doesn't have any ratings,
> because there is nothing to listen too.
>
> Someone commented on Crazy Frog as a bad song for dance? Au
> contraire. At least Crazy Frog, while annoying, stays in
> your mind. Can you say the same of Mynt? Tess or Shape UK?
> Not a chance
>
> Hatemail (and other opinions) may be forwarded to
> [email protected].
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > Renegade man, There are a ton of Great Dance tunes out
> this
> > summer, its one of the best summers for dance in a long
> > time. I think you may be getting your dance from Weak
> > sources. And as for Energy AZ,,,,Nobody cares about a
> > station with a o.o ....... The Best Energy stations are
> > (Energy 98)..And of course (Energy 92.7 San Francisco
> also
> > Kicking azz. And R.I.P to our former Energy 927 and 5
> > (CHicago) and the legendary (Energy 108)
> Hamilton/Toronto...
> > Energy AZ is not even in the same Class as these
> stations,,,
> > they cant even get there streaming done right now....It
> > Buffers NONSTOP... MIkeo realized the Web Audience is
> > important and kept up the maintenace on the streams...How
> > else can anyone listen with a signal like that?
> >
>

 

[Dancerev889]

I kinda of agree there are not a lot of great dance tracks this summer. Im still kinda of shocked the DHT track is doing well I liked the track but it wasnt special like Robbins hits with Lasgo(still one of my favorites) and DJ Sammy. There are good tracks but not a lot of great ones. I think one of the big problems down in Phoenix was money. Promote the station and have a decent format it will do well. Everyone rips on KTU, they are out everyday of the week. In this day and age of radio how many djs are celebrities. Vic Latino is one of the few besides the Sterns that I can think of. Im not talking mixshow djs but the jocks. I dont live in Phoenix so how things were run I can not answer. But hearing that the budget was tight can explain a lot. Its not just the music that makes a great station. Especially if a station doesnt have great signal you have to make people want and know that you have a great station. Look at Energy in Chicago they didnt have a great signal but they had a great following. Everytime I knew someone that went out there to one of their events the place was packed. Think about on here the days leading up to Energy going off the air. It was like a wake. People telling their favorite stories and how much we were going to miss the station. Party in Miami goes off and it had some posts but nothing like Energy. That station in a lot of ways reminded me of my old station, WDBK. A little 100 watt station that when we said we were gonna be somewhere it was packed or if we had a concert we sold out. We all worry about this station isnt playing this track or they are playing the wrong version. In many ways most of the stations(dance) are playing the same much for the most part. If the day comes that I get a chance to run a station, I will have one of the biggest streets teams out there having the station on remote constantly. If the people arent turning the dial to the station Im bringing the station to them. I work at station in Philly that has one of in not the biggest promotions in the country and is known accross the country for it. All I know is Phoenix=ASU and ASU=hot women. I know where I would be broadcasting from

 

[clubfm]

> I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
> what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the station
> tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are greater
> reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station of
> commercial dance pop music in 2005).
>
> and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
>

Guess I'll chime in on this topic.

You are from Canada right? Have you ever been to Phoenix, AZ? or better yet.. have you ever been out clubbing in Phoenix, AZ? Putting a dance station with a weak signal in Phoenix, AZ is like putting a Tropical station in Memphis, TN. - Its not going to get any support because Phoenix is not a clubbing-type city. A lot of people there still call EDM music, "Techno Music".

The bottom line for this station's so called failure is:
1) Terrible signal
2) Not a clubbing city
3) LOW BUDGET

Thats it. Its not because of the music. Its not because of the PD's.. its because its a low budget station with a shitty signal.

How about this.

Take a dance station's library (such as XM's BPM or Sirius' The Beat).. run it exactly how 933FLZ runs their station in Tampa.. meaning.. spending big money on advertising, club feeds, killer imaging, killer morning show, great jocks, big time contests, and great mixshows.... and put this channel in a city like LA, NY, Mia, Philly, Chicago... on a big ass stick... and this format would take off.

Every single station that has tried this format (besides KTU and Party Miami) did not put any money into it.. and did everything completley half ass... even Party Miami. Party had the money, but ran the station half as. How is it that a NIGHTLIFE CLUBBING TV STATION (a3) in Miami can survive and be sucessful in Miami.. but a dance radio station cant? Tells you right there that Miami needs a dance station.

Party Miami was on the right track at the beginning.. but by playing stale music.. having no jocks... they failed.

Its all about what a station puts into it... and I have yet to have seen an FM station put anything into the format.. so its going to fail.

I have seen numerous posts by you complaining about how the music sucks in 05.. but dude.. this is one of the best years in a long time.

Look at DHT.. look how hard Robbins is pushing this song.. and they are getting a lot of sucess out of it. Every dance song that has crossover potential needs to get pushed as hard as DHT.. and that is up to the dance labels in this country to make that happen.

As for KNRG - what do you expect? They promote one club in phoenix.. they have a weak signal.. weak street team.. and playing music in a city that has no idea what this music is about... of course their numbers are going to suck.<P ID="signature">______________
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[musicloverII]

Well said CHRles. On point and correct. Like I always say, an opinion is one thing, what really IS, is another. You've identified reality.

> > Who said I'm dissing the station? When this forum turned
> on
> > Mike Oaks because the numbers fell off the face of the
> > planet, I did not. Yes, my post was a bit cocky, but
> there
> > is a reason for that. It was to point out that success in
>
> > radio comes in longer than 3 month sections.
> >
> > This isn't a diss on Energy Arizona mate. Its a challenge
>
> > to everyone has this simplistic answer to why things
> aren't
> > working in this format, in AZ or anywhere for that matter.
>
> > It has little to do with personalities, signal strength,
> > Mike Oaks, Rod Carillo, etc. It has everything to do with
> a
> > lack of solid mainstream dance music available for radio
> to
> > play.
> >
> > Yes I get angry letters telling me to shut up, yes I piss
> > people off when I say the genre is at the lowest point
> I've
> > seen it in years. And no, I don't agree with CHRles or
> > anyone else that writes and claims there is "alot of great
>
> > dance out there". There is not. Not that works on the
> > radio and works for the mainstream.
> >
> > People claim Energy has a weak signal...and it does, but
> > Dance fans are hardcore, so I suspect they'd purchase an
> > antenna for 10 bucks. If they're willing to sit near a
> > computer to listen to digital audio, no doubt they're
> > willing to put up a copper wire in their flat to listen to
>
> > the station.
> >
>
> Even though I strongly disagree with you, I've never sent
> you any angry letters, nor have I ever asked you to shut up.
> I respect your opinions, and enjoy reading some of your
> posts.
>
> The facts are that Energy Arizona did use to get some sort
> of ratings posted in Arbitron before Mike was at the helm,
> and throughout most of his tenure there.
> Now the station doesn't register in the ratings at all, so
> it's more then likely not due to the lack of strong signal.
>
> There are also PLENTY, I repeat PLENTY of solid Dance tunes
> both for the clubs and for crossover.
>
> The best example is DHT, which WASN'T huge in Europe, and
> yet is a European Dance act doing well in America. There are
> some other good current Dance tunes, whether it's a strong
> female vocal, a couple of strong 80s loops, some
> instrumental House and Trance, a cheesy but sweet Euro
> tinged number, and many other records that do have
> potential.
>
> Toss in a healthy balance of Dance records from the past 5
> years, one or two from the 90s, and an 80s gem every couple
> of hours, add some top notch personalities, throw in some
> interesting nightly mixshows (after 9 or 10, not just at 1
> AM!), and some good promotions. Pretty much do almost what
> C-89.5 Seattle does, only on the commercial side of the FM
> band.
>
> As we've also said, there's also the option of mixing Dance
> with Top 40/Mainstream (Rock, Pop, Hip Hop/R&B) ala Z-103.5
> Toronto. It can work in cities like Vegas, Denver,
> Baltimore, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and a number of other
> markets. You know what, it might just work in Phoenix
> too...on a REAL metro-wide signal.
>
> >
> > Would you rather there not be a dance station in phoenix
> at
> >
> > > all?? I think we should be happy for all the dance
> > stations
> > > we have and not put down the stations for lack of
> ratings
> > or
> > > mikes fault, rods fault etc. Lets support all the dance
> > > stations. I have always said the station would probably
> do
> >
> > > better if on a better signal. The new owners of 97.5fm
> in
> > > phoenix don't have a format yet but that signal comes in
>
> > > crystal clear. Maybe the new owners should talk to
> Sierra
> > > and think of moving Energy to 97.5.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps.
> SO
> >
> > > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> > station
> > >
> > > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> > greater
> > >
> > > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy
> station
> > of
> > >
> > > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > > >
> > > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my
> personality.
> >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

 

[SamBuca]

I don't know the actual timing of everything...but did you give it a good 2-3 books before judging the "new" station's ratings? Anyone in radio knows that changes you make now are reflected faaaaar in the future.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>

 

[liam808]

> > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
> > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the station
>
> > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are greater
>
> > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station of
>
> > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> >
> > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
> >
>
> Guess I'll chime in on this topic.
>
> You are from Canada right? Have you ever been to Phoenix,
> AZ? or better yet.. have you ever been out clubbing in
> Phoenix, AZ? Putting a dance station with a weak signal in
> Phoenix, AZ is like putting a Tropical station in Memphis,
> TN. - Its not going to get any support because Phoenix is
> not a clubbing-type city. A lot of people there still call
> EDM music, "Techno Music".
>
> The bottom line for this station's so called failure is:
> 1) Terrible signal
> 2) Not a clubbing city
> 3) LOW BUDGET
>
> Thats it. Its not because of the music. Its not because of
> the PD's.. its because its a low budget station with a
> shitty signal.
>
> How about this.
>
> Take a dance station's library (such as XM's BPM or Sirius'
> The Beat).. run it exactly how 933FLZ runs their station in
> Tampa.. meaning.. spending big money on advertising, club
> feeds, killer imaging, killer morning show, great jocks, big
> time contests, and great mixshows.... and put this channel
> in a city like LA, NY, Mia, Philly, Chicago... on a big ass
> stick... and this format would take off.
>
> Every single station that has tried this format (besides KTU
> and Party Miami) did not put any money into it.. and did
> everything completley half ass... even Party Miami. Party
> had the money, but ran the station half as. How is it that a
> NIGHTLIFE CLUBBING TV STATION (a3) in Miami can survive and
> be sucessful in Miami.. but a dance radio station cant?
> Tells you right there that Miami needs a dance station.
>
> Party Miami was on the right track at the beginning.. but by
> playing stale music.. having no jocks... they failed.
>
> Its all about what a station puts into it... and I have yet
> to have seen an FM station put anything into the format.. so
> its going to fail.
>
> I have seen numerous posts by you complaining about how the
> music sucks in 05.. but dude.. this is one of the best years
> in a long time.
>
> Look at DHT.. look how hard Robbins is pushing this song..
> and they are getting a lot of sucess out of it. Every dance
> song that has crossover potential needs to get pushed as
> hard as DHT.. and that is up to the dance labels in this
> country to make that happen.
>
> As for KNRG - what do you expect? They promote one club in
> phoenix.. they have a weak signal.. weak street team.. and
> playing music in a city that has no idea what this music is
> about... of course their numbers are going to suck.

First off, it's KNRJ. Secondly, I'm guessing you haven't lived or spent much time in Phoenix. Sure it's not Chicago, but to say that it is not a clubbing city is off the mark. Better to say that it's not Memphis than to make quite an overgeneralization of a city that's mostly made up of people from ALL OVER, including NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, etc. You get the point.
>

 

[OkumbaPHX]

Hello!
Do any of you actually LIVE in PHOENIX?

Energy 92.7 and 101.1 sounds just as good musically as any of the other dance stations in the country.
I Should Know "I actually Listen"
they are failing, because of the low signal.
I can't even pick them up on a Boombox at work and I can see "South Mountain"
where the translator is from the front door of my job site.

my co-workers listen to MEGA 99.3 fm, that is energy's sister station.
and thats on an 18 watt stick on a mountain in the central part of town.

Straight up if energy is to survive, they need more power.

10 watts just doesn't cut it, unless your in south phoenix in your car.

Hell, I can't even get them clearly on the west side, I can see south mountain, but 92.3 and 93.3 just blasts all over them and you hook up an outdoor aerial and its even worse.

92.7 doesn't even have enough power to cut over top of the mountain ridge, when your driving over near tempe by the new Ikea store.
you might as well just be using a walkie-talkie to transmit 92.7
yes its that bad.
So, I can't hear energy 92.7 at work, but at least we get to hear "Turntable Thursdays" On Mega 99.3 fm

 

[clubfm]

> > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps. SO
>
> > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> station
> >
> > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> greater
> >
> > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy station
> of
> >
> > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > >
> > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my personality.
>
> > >
> >
> > Guess I'll chime in on this topic.
> >
> > You are from Canada right? Have you ever been to Phoenix,
> > AZ? or better yet.. have you ever been out clubbing in
> > Phoenix, AZ? Putting a dance station with a weak signal in
>
> > Phoenix, AZ is like putting a Tropical station in Memphis,
>
> > TN. - Its not going to get any support because Phoenix is
> > not a clubbing-type city. A lot of people there still call
>
> > EDM music, "Techno Music".
> >
> > The bottom line for this station's so called failure is:
> > 1) Terrible signal
> > 2) Not a clubbing city
> > 3) LOW BUDGET
> >
> > Thats it. Its not because of the music. Its not because of
>
> > the PD's.. its because its a low budget station with a
> > shitty signal.
> >
> > How about this.
> >
> > Take a dance station's library (such as XM's BPM or
> Sirius'
> > The Beat).. run it exactly how 933FLZ runs their station
> in
> > Tampa.. meaning.. spending big money on advertising, club
> > feeds, killer imaging, killer morning show, great jocks,
> big
> > time contests, and great mixshows.... and put this channel
>
> > in a city like LA, NY, Mia, Philly, Chicago... on a big
> ass
> > stick... and this format would take off.
> >
> > Every single station that has tried this format (besides
> KTU
> > and Party Miami) did not put any money into it.. and did
> > everything completley half ass... even Party Miami. Party
> > had the money, but ran the station half as. How is it that
> a
> > NIGHTLIFE CLUBBING TV STATION (a3) in Miami can survive
> and
> > be sucessful in Miami.. but a dance radio station cant?
> > Tells you right there that Miami needs a dance station.
> >
> > Party Miami was on the right track at the beginning.. but
> by
> > playing stale music.. having no jocks... they failed.
> >
> > Its all about what a station puts into it... and I have
> yet
> > to have seen an FM station put anything into the format..
> so
> > its going to fail.
> >
> > I have seen numerous posts by you complaining about how
> the
> > music sucks in 05.. but dude.. this is one of the best
> years
> > in a long time.
> >
> > Look at DHT.. look how hard Robbins is pushing this song..
>
> > and they are getting a lot of sucess out of it. Every
> dance
> > song that has crossover potential needs to get pushed as
> > hard as DHT.. and that is up to the dance labels in this
> > country to make that happen.
> >
> > As for KNRG - what do you expect? They promote one club in
>
> > phoenix.. they have a weak signal.. weak street team.. and
>
> > playing music in a city that has no idea what this music
> is
> > about... of course their numbers are going to suck.
>
> First off, it's KNRJ. Secondly, I'm guessing you haven't
> lived or spent much time in Phoenix. Sure it's not Chicago,
> but to say that it is not a clubbing city is off the mark.
> Better to say that it's not Memphis than to make quite an
> overgeneralization of a city that's mostly made up of people
> from ALL OVER, including NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, etc. You
> get the point.
> >
>

First off... that was a type o-

"I'm guessing you haven't lived or spent much time in Phoenix. Sure it's not Chicago, but to say that it is not a clubbing city is off the mark."

WRONG. I owned a company in Scottsdale for 3 years. i have partied in phoenix/scottsdale for 3 years straight..... and its weak. When clubs have to close down at 1am/2am... thats weak. Phoenix is not, and will never be a clubbing city. - sure its better than most of the cities in America.. but it cant handle a dance station with a weak signal. Like I said.. peaople want to point fingers and blame it on PDs, or Music, or whatever... but its because the signal is weak.. the budget is low.. and its in a weak clubbing city.

Whats the biggest club out there these days? Axis|Radius? LOL

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[liam808]

> > > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps.
> SO
> >
> > > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> > station
> > >
> > > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> > greater
> > >
> > > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy
> station
> > of
> > >
> > > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > > >
> > > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my
> personality.
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Guess I'll chime in on this topic.
> > >
> > > You are from Canada right? Have you ever been to
> Phoenix,
> > > AZ? or better yet.. have you ever been out clubbing in
> > > Phoenix, AZ? Putting a dance station with a weak signal
> in
> >
> > > Phoenix, AZ is like putting a Tropical station in
> Memphis,
> >
> > > TN. - Its not going to get any support because Phoenix
> is
> > > not a clubbing-type city. A lot of people there still
> call
> >
> > > EDM music, "Techno Music".
> > >
> > > The bottom line for this station's so called failure is:
>
> > > 1) Terrible signal
> > > 2) Not a clubbing city
> > > 3) LOW BUDGET
> > >
> > > Thats it. Its not because of the music. Its not because
> of
> >
> > > the PD's.. its because its a low budget station with a
> > > shitty signal.
> > >
> > > How about this.
> > >
> > > Take a dance station's library (such as XM's BPM or
> > Sirius'
> > > The Beat).. run it exactly how 933FLZ runs their station
>
> > in
> > > Tampa.. meaning.. spending big money on advertising,
> club
> > > feeds, killer imaging, killer morning show, great jocks,
>
> > big
> > > time contests, and great mixshows.... and put this
> channel
> >
> > > in a city like LA, NY, Mia, Philly, Chicago... on a big
> > ass
> > > stick... and this format would take off.
> > >
> > > Every single station that has tried this format (besides
>
> > KTU
> > > and Party Miami) did not put any money into it.. and did
>
> > > everything completley half ass... even Party Miami.
> Party
> > > had the money, but ran the station half as. How is it
> that
> > a
> > > NIGHTLIFE CLUBBING TV STATION (a3) in Miami can survive
> > and
> > > be sucessful in Miami.. but a dance radio station cant?
> > > Tells you right there that Miami needs a dance station.
> > >
> > > Party Miami was on the right track at the beginning..
> but
> > by
> > > playing stale music.. having no jocks... they failed.
> > >
> > > Its all about what a station puts into it... and I have
> > yet
> > > to have seen an FM station put anything into the
> format..
> > so
> > > its going to fail.
> > >
> > > I have seen numerous posts by you complaining about how
> > the
> > > music sucks in 05.. but dude.. this is one of the best
> > years
> > > in a long time.
> > >
> > > Look at DHT.. look how hard Robbins is pushing this
> song..
> >
> > > and they are getting a lot of sucess out of it. Every
> > dance
> > > song that has crossover potential needs to get pushed as
>
> > > hard as DHT.. and that is up to the dance labels in this
>
> > > country to make that happen.
> > >
> > > As for KNRG - what do you expect? They promote one club
> in
> >
> > > phoenix.. they have a weak signal.. weak street team..
> and
> >
> > > playing music in a city that has no idea what this music
>
> > is
> > > about... of course their numbers are going to suck.
> >
> > First off, it's KNRJ. Secondly, I'm guessing you haven't
> > lived or spent much time in Phoenix. Sure it's not
> Chicago,
> > but to say that it is not a clubbing city is off the mark.
>
> > Better to say that it's not Memphis than to make quite an
> > overgeneralization of a city that's mostly made up of
> people
> > from ALL OVER, including NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, etc.
> You
> > get the point.
> > >
> >
>
> First off... that was a type o-
>
> second of all i have partied in phoenix for 3 years
> straight..... and its weak. When clubs have to close down at
> 1am/2am... thats weak.
>
Hmm, guess that makes you an expert on Phoenix, Tempe, Scottsdale, etc. - and I've lived in Chicago, Dallas, and Austin. Must not have been that bad for you to party there (in Phoenix)if you did it for 3 years straight. Listen, everybody has an opinion (like something else) - I hear alot of complaints about Energy and Phoenix on this board and it usually comes from individuals that don't have an outlet for dance on their own fm dial. Sucks, huh? BTW,a law requiring liquor to stop being served at 2 am does not make or break a city when it comes to clubbing. If you'd spent so much time in Phoenix, you'd know there are clubs that hold afterhours - certainly not like NY nor LA (not every place needs to be), but they do exist.

 

[clubfm]

> > > > > I can't see them anywhere in the Phx numbers and
> > > > > WAIT!...Oaks wasn't at the helm during these sweeps.
>
> > SO
> > >
> > > > > what gives? I recall more than a few claiming the
> > > station
> > > >
> > > > > tanked because of MikeO? Or just maybe there are
> > > greater
> > > >
> > > > > reasons why no one is listening (like the lousy
> > station
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > commercial dance pop music in 2005).
> > > > >
> > > > > and please, pardon my cynicism, but it's my
> > personality.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Guess I'll chime in on this topic.
> > > >
> > > > You are from Canada right? Have you ever been to
> > Phoenix,
> > > > AZ? or better yet.. have you ever been out clubbing in
>
> > > > Phoenix, AZ? Putting a dance station with a weak
> signal
> > in
> > >
> > > > Phoenix, AZ is like putting a Tropical station in
> > Memphis,
> > >
> > > > TN. - Its not going to get any support because Phoenix
>
> > is
> > > > not a clubbing-type city. A lot of people there still
> > call
> > >
> > > > EDM music, "Techno Music".
> > > >
> > > > The bottom line for this station's so called failure
> is:
> >
> > > > 1) Terrible signal
> > > > 2) Not a clubbing city
> > > > 3) LOW BUDGET
> > > >
> > > > Thats it. Its not because of the music. Its not
> because
> > of
> > >
> > > > the PD's.. its because its a low budget station with a
>
> > > > shitty signal.
> > > >
> > > > How about this.
> > > >
> > > > Take a dance station's library (such as XM's BPM or
> > > Sirius'
> > > > The Beat).. run it exactly how 933FLZ runs their
> station
> >
> > > in
> > > > Tampa.. meaning.. spending big money on advertising,
> > club
> > > > feeds, killer imaging, killer morning show, great
> jocks,
> >
> > > big
> > > > time contests, and great mixshows.... and put this
> > channel
> > >
> > > > in a city like LA, NY, Mia, Philly, Chicago... on a
> big
> > > ass
> > > > stick... and this format would take off.
> > > >
> > > > Every single station that has tried this format
> (besides
> >
> > > KTU
> > > > and Party Miami) did not put any money into it.. and
> did
> >
> > > > everything completley half ass... even Party Miami.
> > Party
> > > > had the money, but ran the station half as. How is it
> > that
> > > a
> > > > NIGHTLIFE CLUBBING TV STATION (a3) in Miami can
> survive
> > > and
> > > > be sucessful in Miami.. but a dance radio station
> cant?
> > > > Tells you right there that Miami needs a dance
> station.
> > > >
> > > > Party Miami was on the right track at the beginning..
> > but
> > > by
> > > > playing stale music.. having no jocks... they failed.
> > > >
> > > > Its all about what a station puts into it... and I
> have
> > > yet
> > > > to have seen an FM station put anything into the
> > format..
> > > so
> > > > its going to fail.
> > > >
> > > > I have seen numerous posts by you complaining about
> how
> > > the
> > > > music sucks in 05.. but dude.. this is one of the best
>
> > > years
> > > > in a long time.
> > > >
> > > > Look at DHT.. look how hard Robbins is pushing this
> > song..
> > >
> > > > and they are getting a lot of sucess out of it. Every
> > > dance
> > > > song that has crossover potential needs to get pushed
> as
> >
> > > > hard as DHT.. and that is up to the dance labels in
> this
> >
> > > > country to make that happen.
> > > >
> > > > As for KNRG - what do you expect? They promote one
> club
> > in
> > >
> > > > phoenix.. they have a weak signal.. weak street team..
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > playing music in a city that has no idea what this
> music
> >
> > > is
> > > > about... of course their numbers are going to suck.
> > >
> > > First off, it's KNRJ. Secondly, I'm guessing you
> haven't
> > > lived or spent much time in Phoenix. Sure it's not
> > Chicago,
> > > but to say that it is not a clubbing city is off the
> mark.
> >
> > > Better to say that it's not Memphis than to make quite
> an
> > > overgeneralization of a city that's mostly made up of
> > people
> > > from ALL OVER, including NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, etc.
> > You
> > > get the point.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > First off... that was a type o-
> >
> > second of all i have partied in phoenix for 3 years
> > straight..... and its weak. When clubs have to close down
> at
> > 1am/2am... thats weak.
> >
> Hmm, guess that makes you an expert on Phoenix, Tempe,
> Scottsdale, etc. - and I've lived in Chicago, Dallas, and
> Austin. Must not have been that bad for you to party there
> (in Phoenix)if you did it for 3 years straight. Listen,
> everybody has an opinion (like something else) - I hear alot
> of complaints about Energy and Phoenix on this board and it
> usually comes from individuals that don't have an outlet for
> dance on their own fm dial. Sucks, huh? BTW,a law
> requiring liquor to stop being served at 2 am does not make
> or break a city when it comes to clubbing. If you'd spent
> so much time in Phoenix, you'd know there are clubs that
> hold afterhours - certainly not like NY nor LA (not every
> place needs to be), but they do exist.
>

I never once said the area is a bad place..Its a great place to be... but the clubbing scene is weak. If I had the choice to party in Chicago, Miami, NY, LA, or Phoenix.. believe me.. Phoenix would not be in my top 10 picks.

Is this a thread about dance radio or clubbing? If it's going to be about clubbing, perhaps we should take this conversation over to the Phoenix Forums on ClubPlanet? http://bbs.clubplanet.com/ Let me know when you find it.

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[djwoody21]

>>Mikeo gets good numbers on his
> net stations, and has a loyal audience.

Net stations do not equal success at FM. anyone can make an internet station and have no clue about the format or music they play. Mike O did what he was brought aboard to do at Energy. they decided to go in another direction. MOVE ON.

As for Energy, it will never be in the Top 10 in Phx. it might not even hit a 1.0. it is trying to serve the audience that wants to hear dance in Phx. Remember, this station has achieved numbers as high as a .8 before it started sounding too poppish a year ago. they had steady .6 and .4 books. Rod has just taken the PD helms. give him time to do what he can do with Energy. a transition book is never gonna be great. Energy just had its best turn-out at their resident saturday night club last week. obviously they are doing something right.

flame away...