knte-fm

[autopilot9]

Wrong.

OK..... I stand corrected. KNTE-FM is NOT a Houston Station. We can throw in the towel now.

 

[oldjohnny]

Wrong.

OK..... I stand corrected. KNTE-FM is NOT a Houston Station. We can throw in the towel now.

Cool 8)

Um...I knew KROY/Palacios was off the air, but when did KJAZ/Point Comfort go off? Last I saw they were upgrading to a taller antenna. How long has it been silent?

What was the last format runned by KJAZ? I wasn't there when it went off.

 

[jd]

(Aw, man. Just because you threw in the towel I can't waste a perfectly good chance to post what I had been typing...)

Then it must be a Houston Station.... Right????

Let's see, how can I put this? On the way back to Houston a while back, let's say, I stopped for gas at a station in Conroe. I noticed that the cashier was listening to a University of Houston football game on the radio and I saw a Houston newspaper on the counter. I bought a paper, got back in the car and drove to Houston. On the way I wondered: if the gasoline I put in my tank had been delivered to the gas station in a tanker truck based in Houston but I bought it in Conroe, is it still Houston gasoline? And if the place in Conroe is selling gasoline from Houston does that make it a Houston gas station?

Are you confused? I certainly hope so. KNTE-FM is licensed to El Campo (67 miles southwest of downtown Houston) and transmits from a tower about 18 miles southwest of Bay City; the tower location is 80 miles from downtown Houston. Even with Houston's history of aggressive land annexation, the last time I checked neither El Campo nor the KNTE-FM tower were located within the city limits of Houston. The city-grade signal of KNTE-FM doesn't cover any part of the city of Houston. The station does show up in the Houston-Galveston ratings but by no stretch of the imagination is it a Houston station. It is a station located in the Houston-Galveston survey area. And that's all.

Two final points for you. I don't know if you're into classic movies, but this discussion reminds me of the most notable line in "Cool Hand Luke," which starred Paul Newman. It goes like this: "What we have here...is a failure to communicate."

And in conclusion, I don't use emoticons to drive a point home.

 

[jras20]

Wrong.

OK..... I stand corrected. KNTE-FM is NOT a Houston Station. We can throw in the towel now.

Cool 8)

Um...I knew KROY/Palacios was off the air, but when did KJAZ/Point Comfort go off? Last I saw they were upgrading to a taller antenna. How long has it been silent?

What was the last format runned by KJAZ? I wasn't there when it went off.

KJAZ was simalcasting KZAM, Now KULF, before the calls were KAJI. I remember a few years ago, all 3 stations would simalcast Hallettsville KTXM, which KTXM is still broadcasting today but will only go out 3-5 miles out of the town. And if you really want history, KAJI was a classic rock station "The cave" played pretty good stuff back in the day.

 

[oldjohnny]

Yes, I remember it like that, it was a tricast of one station, but what still confuses me is, why shut down all the victoria stations and only leave KTXM which doesn't even reach Victoria. Hell, It gets beaten by KSAB from Corpus Christi all the time.

Now it still puzzles me, Mr. Roy Henderson came into these boards not long ago explaining why he was leaving those stations off the air.

Now on the matter at hand in reference to KULF, Ganado.  I wrote at some length about the struggle we have had with this station for the last decade in an earlier thread of jras20.  We have never made any money operating in Victoria.  In some ways I view the Victoria market as a "six-shooter" town like in the days of the "Old West".  Its has shown us that might makes right, anything goes, and there are always people willing to beat down the price of value then shop it to the next competitor, and then watch the two (or three) stations fight it out to see who wants it more.  Then the "lucky" bid winner gets to spend time, money, great effort to produce good value in a campaign...only to wind up getting "stiffed" for non-payment after great effort to collect...to the point that it becomes like beating a dead horse.  The cycle goes on an on for some advertisers.  But NOT ALL!!  There are quite a few businesses that pay well for value received in Victoria.  And to them I applaud and honor.  It's just, in my view, NOT enough of them to support so many radio stations in the market.  Add to that a once large "cluster absentee owner" that continue to countenance a "dollar-a-holler" mentality and you have a fine mess of a market.  Heck, when their "dollar-a-holler" price became "50 cents-a-hollar" we simply passed on the business.
The thing that finally capped things off was having to deal with our tower owner.  I will not go into very much detail here but will only say we were charged major market rent which only kept getting higher and higher because he wanted us to "buy" his tower at an exhorbidant  price.  (he didn't even own the land).  And he would actually, against federal law, go out to the transmitter site and flip off and back on repeatedly the electrical power causing damage to our transmitter and equipment if we were late paying the high and usurious rent we were forced to pay.

We decided enough was enough and shut it down and applied to increase its power two-fold and build our own tower and reach an expanded market.  Its now pending.

So there you have it.  There are some who will probably flame me for being candid or even accuse me of being disengenuous for their own personal or professional reasons.  But I hope those of you for or against us can empathize with the situation that dominated KULF for years up until a few months ago.  I can assure you that the future of this station is brighter than ever and we hope to reach many old and new listeners with good programming that will benefit the good and wonderful advertising businesses in Victoria and in other regional communities.

R. out.

But wouldn't it seem easier to just sell them. Now don't get me wrong, Mr. Henderson, I actually enjoy your stations to the North of Houston (Bob FM and Lonestar), but why not sell the stations to the next highest bidder?

 

[Jay5Ok]

Do you know what the worst part of this thread is? Even with it's missing frequencies Victoria has better radio stations than Houston, at least on the fm side of things. I have lived down here for close to 3 years now and I didn't know there were stations in Palacios, Ganado, and Point Comfort.

 

[fredcantu]

Back to whether KNTE belongs in the Houston-Galveston market... City of license has nothing to do with it.

Technically many ''Houston'' stations are broadcasting into Houston from Missouri City.

The Houston MSA includes eight counties: Brazoria, Chambers, Fort Bend, Galveston, Harris, Liberty, Montgomery and Waller.

KNTE serves the southern counties in the metro.

 

[oldjohnny]

And even in those Southern counties, I think little clock radios may have a hard time receiving the station. In my view, KNTE is not a Houston station. Arbitron is a seperate company that measures Ratings, it has nothing to do with the FCC. Rosenburg is a bit outside the 60 dbu line and Houston is outside the 50 dbu. I'm not arguing about the COL. The COL now days doesn't mean anything to companies now days.

But if you want to talk about Arbitron, KNTE covers part of the metro, Not all Houston, thus making it "not" a Houston area station. How about making it a "Non-Houston station that makes it all the way to Southwest Houston"

But then again, I may be wrong since the only official way of determining where is a station from is by the FCC's COL.

 

[jras20]

Do you know what the worst part of this thread is? Even with it's missing frequencies Victoria has better radio stations than Houston, at least on the fm side of things. I have lived down here for close to 3 years now and I didn't know there were stations in Palacios, Ganado, and Point Comfort.

I agree with you, I think its better than Austin/San antonio. I just cant understand why Those 3 cant make it in Victoria, I'm in a area where I can dx to Houston & Victoria. I cant get the HD Signals from Houston, but can get the austin analog great.

 

[purpledevil]

Oldjohnny, Henderson's stations are all up for sale. You just have to pony up quite a bit of cash. Sometimes, more than the station is actually worth. Case in point, would be KNUZ here in Bellville. Asking price for the little 250 watt daytimer 250k last I saw. A bit high for the station considering its track record in the past few years. The biggest part of that price includes the CP to move to the exploding and constantly expanding Katy. Somehow, someway I see his price being met and Bellville's only licensed station will cease to exist. In response to KNTE, I'm glad we put it to rest. If it were indeed a Houston station, what need would there be to simulcast it on 2 seperate AM frequencies?

 

[ChuckTiller]

The FCC denied the the move to Katy.
Hence:
http://www.enewsbuilder.net/texasbroadcasters/e_article000956264.cfm?x=b11,0,w

 

[purpledevil]

Thank you for bringing me up to speed on this, as I obviously wasn't aware of the denial. Sadly, I wonder what this means for 1090 overall? With KLTR's proposal to upgrade to 50kw there seemingly wouldn't be a need for KNUZ to simulcast 94.1, and 105.3 doesn't seem like a logical option either. Something tells me KNUZ is about to have transmitter problems again.

 

[jd]

The FCC denied the the move to Katy.

Chuck, there's something wrong here. A check of FCC info from the CDBS doesn't show anything about the KNUZ move to Katy move being denied. In fact nothing indicates that the original "major change" application filed back in January '04 was ever denied. I'm not saying the TAB article you linked is wrong, but I don't see any denials posted yet.

Something tells me KNUZ is about to have transmitter problems again.

Well, check this out, pd. In a related article from the TAB they correctly stated that the FCC had denied a number of protests and granted the license renewal application for KNUZ. And in a letter that's available online the FCC opined that "KNUZ(AM) has served the public interest, convenience, and necessity during the subject license term; there have been no serious violations of the Act or the Rules; and there have been no other violations which, taken together, constitute a pattern of abuse."

I have just one comment: the Court of Public Opinion has once again been trumped by the Government version, which is overrun with kangaroos.

 

[purpledevil]

Well, I'll be. I knew that KNUZ's license had been renewed, after the whole Petition to Deny debacle that occurred due to some misplaced and unneccessary politicking to hijack Bellville's lone service, but the wording of that statement certainly tells a lot about what it must take to be in violation, or to be warranted as "a pattern of abuse" from the FCC. I'm sorry to be off subject here, but Bellville certainly isn't served by what KACO is now. We don't even get a temperature stamp from the Weather Channel on the web site! College Station certainly has one, as does Brenham.

 

[purpledevil]

My apologies, I typed KACO but meant KNUZ. Showing my age.... :-\

 

[stevenNOLA]

I check for KNUZ out of curiosity sometimes and haven't heard it to be on the air in MONTHS. It usually booms into my place south of Katy.

 

[ChuckTiller]

This is the FCC pdf document:

www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2007/db1030/DA-07-4454A1.doc

Over the last few months, we've had internal discussions about purchasing KNUZ and simulcasting KNTH, which would give us better coverage to the west. However, after much investigation, it was decided not to persue that course of action.

 

[jd]

Thanks, Chuck. Looks like another case of the FCC being behind the curve when it comes to the database.

So by all means let's keep KNUZ in Bellville, sez the FCC, where it has "provided a service to the community for over 30 years." Forget Roger Clemens. The bozos in Washington need to be investigated for drug use.

 

[stevenNOLA]

Thanks, Chuck. Looks like another case of the FCC being behind the curve when it comes to the database.

So by all means let's keep KNUZ in Bellville, sez the FCC, where it has "provided a service to the community for over 30 years." Forget Roger Clemens. The bozos in Washington need to be investigated for drug use.

*lack* of service under Roy Henderson

 

[jras20]

Its still puzzles me that he wont serve Victoria, I wonder how well, KITE, KVIC, KHMC, KTXN, KBAR, KLUB, KIXS all stay on the air if he couldnt? And all the other non comercails are still broadcasting 24/7. KVIC has remotes a lot of the time, and KIXS has local ads. I dont understand it I guess...