knte-fm

[purpledevil]

This is the FCC pdf document:

www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2007/db1030/DA-07-4454A1.doc

Over the last few months, we've had internal discussions about purchasing KNUZ and simulcasting KNTH, which would give us better coverage to the west. However, after much investigation, it was decided not to persue that course of action.

If it's something you can elaborate on, would you mind? I'm curious as to why KNUZ has become such an unsellable, unusable, and seemingly undesirable property. I know the facilities leave much to desire, but that can't be the whole story.

 

[CW]

Are you confused? I certainly hope so. KNTE-FM is licensed to El Campo (67 miles southwest of downtown Houston) and transmits from a tower about 18 miles southwest of Bay City; the tower location is 80 miles from downtown Houston. Even with Houston's history of aggressive land annexation, the last time I checked neither El Campo nor the KNTE-FM tower were located within the city limits of Houston. The city-grade signal of KNTE-FM doesn't cover any part of the city of Houston. The station does show up in the Houston-Galveston ratings but by no stretch of the imagination is it a Houston station. It is a station located in the Houston-Galveston survey area. And that's all.

Two final points for you. I don't know if you're into classic movies, but this discussion reminds me of the most notable line in "Cool Hand Luke," which starred Paul Newman. It goes like this: "What we have here...is a failure to communicate."

And in conclusion, I don't use emoticons to drive a point home.

Is 96.9 still simulacasting another of LBI's stations? They TRY to be a Houston station as a rimshot...but they dont and never WILL be a ture Houston station...and without the other signal (they had XO originally...but I cant recall who is it now paired with 96.9), they would not be rated in Houston at all.

Personally, I like the line Jackie Gleason said as Sheriff Buford T Justice......it somewhat relates to a number of broadcasters out there (including KHCB who filed to cover two translators in Beaumont area...funny, I never heard them or saw them being built..so how can they be licensed AS built??) "What we are dealing with here....is a complete lack of respect for the law!"...that and "Duck or you gonna be talking out your........" Damn I have got to get that in DVD!
(My fav is when leaving a diner, I always think his two words as he is leaving one....."nice ***"

 

[jras20]

Are you confused? I certainly hope so. KNTE-FM is licensed to El Campo (67 miles southwest of downtown Houston) and transmits from a tower about 18 miles southwest of Bay City; the tower location is 80 miles from downtown Houston. Even with Houston's history of aggressive land annexation, the last time I checked neither El Campo nor the KNTE-FM tower were located within the city limits of Houston. The city-grade signal of KNTE-FM doesn't cover any part of the city of Houston. The station does show up in the Houston-Galveston ratings but by no stretch of the imagination is it a Houston station. It is a station located in the Houston-Galveston survey area. And that's all.

Two final points for you. I don't know if you're into classic movies, but this discussion reminds me of the most notable line in "Cool Hand Luke," which starred Paul Newman. It goes like this: "What we have here...is a failure to communicate."

And in conclusion, I don't use emoticons to drive a point home.

Is 96.9 still simulacasting another of LBI's stations? They TRY to be a Houston station as a rimshot...but they dont and never WILL be a ture Houston station...and without the other signal (they had XO originally...but I cant recall who is it now paired with 96.9), they would not be rated in Houston at all.

Personally, I like the line Jackie Gleason said as Sheriff Buford T Justice......it somewhat relates to a number of broadcasters out there (including KHCB who filed to cover two translators in Beaumont area...funny, I never heard them or saw them being built..so how can they be licensed AS built??) "What we are dealing with here....is a complete lack of respect for the law!"...that and "Duck or you gonna be talking out your........" Damn I have got to get that in DVD!
(My fav is when leaving a diner, I always think his two words as he is leaving one....."nice ***"

Last time I heard I think its now simalcasting a AM station, not sure though.... it is broadcasting in HD though, so is KXGJ.

 

[purpledevil]

Are you confused? I certainly hope so. KNTE-FM is licensed to El Campo (67 miles southwest of downtown Houston) and transmits from a tower about 18 miles southwest of Bay City; the tower location is 80 miles from downtown Houston. Even with Houston's history of aggressive land annexation, the last time I checked neither El Campo nor the KNTE-FM tower were located within the city limits of Houston. The city-grade signal of KNTE-FM doesn't cover any part of the city of Houston. The station does show up in the Houston-Galveston ratings but by no stretch of the imagination is it a Houston station. It is a station located in the Houston-Galveston survey area. And that's all.

Two final points for you. I don't know if you're into classic movies, but this discussion reminds me of the most notable line in "Cool Hand Luke," which starred Paul Newman. It goes like this: "What we have here...is a failure to communicate."

And in conclusion, I don't use emoticons to drive a point home.

Is 96.9 still simulacasting another of LBI's stations? They TRY to be a Houston station as a rimshot...but they dont and never WILL be a ture Houston station...and without the other signal (they had XO originally...but I cant recall who is it now paired with 96.9), they would not be rated in Houston at all.

Personally, I like the line Jackie Gleason said as Sheriff Buford T Justice......it somewhat relates to a number of broadcasters out there (including KHCB who filed to cover two translators in Beaumont area...funny, I never heard them or saw them being built..so how can they be licensed AS built??) "What we are dealing with here....is a complete lack of respect for the law!"...that and "Duck or you gonna be talking out your........" Damn I have got to get that in DVD!
(My fav is when leaving a diner, I always think his two words as he is leaving one....."nice ***"

Yes, it is simulcasting KQUE/Houston and KJOJ/Conroe as "El Norte". XO is simulcast on KXGJ/Bay City and KQQK/Beaumont now.

 

[fredcantu]

I had forgotten about the debate over whether KNTE was a Houston station until I was in Houston over the weekend. I was scanning the dial while I waited in a drive thru at Westheimer and Montrose and my radio locked onto 96.9. It doesn't get more Houston than Westheimer at Montrose.

 

[oldjohnny]

Well, did you try The Woodlands, Spring, Pasadena, Northwest Houston, Humble and the Historic Downtown Houston? The station is listenable in a Car stereo, but I really doubt that KNTE is listenable at all on a small hand held radio or a clock radio in the Montrose area.

 

[jras20]

It really makes me no sense why they turned on the IBOC on KNTE, You would never pick the HD Signal up in Houston, might if you have a 20' antenna like I have up. But even then I had some problems recieving it.

 

[autopilot9]

Well, did you try The Woodlands, Spring, Pasadena, Northwest Houston, Humble and the Historic Downtown Houston? The station is listenable in a Car stereo, but I really doubt that KNTE is listenable at all on a small hand held radio or a clock radio in the Montrose area.

No you can't pick it up on a home stereo or hand held radio in most parts of town. I can pick the station up and get HD lock at my house, and I dont have a huge outdoor antenna. I think the largest percentage of people listen to the radio while in the car.

It really makes me no sense why they turned on the IBOC on KNTE, You would never pick the HD Signal up in Houston, might if you have a 20' antenna like I have up. But even then I had some problems recieving it.

I bet you really don't understand why it is on KXGJ too. I thought it would not have made sense to not go HD. Why would you not, when ever other station in the market is HD? This is a brand new transmitter site with brand new transmitters. What is an extra $35K per station when your spending 8 million to build a site.

 

[oldjohnny]

Well, did you try The Woodlands, Spring, Pasadena, Northwest Houston, Humble and the Historic Downtown Houston? The station is listenable in a Car stereo, but I really doubt that KNTE is listenable at all on a small hand held radio or a clock radio in the Montrose area.

No you can't pick it up on a home stereo or hand held radio in most parts of town. I can pick the station up and get HD lock at my house, and I dont have a huge outdoor antenna. I think the largest percentage of people listen to the radio while in the car.

That is a big misconception.

It still doesn't make it a Houston Station.

It really makes me no sense why they turned on the IBOC on KNTE, You would never pick the HD Signal up in Houston, might if you have a 20' antenna like I have up. But even then I had some problems recieving it.

I bet you really don't understand why it is on KXGJ too. I thought it would not have made sense to not go HD. Why would you not, when ever other station in the market is HD? This is a brand new transmitter site with brand new transmitters. What is an extra $35K per station when your spending 8 million to build a site.


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I'll give you two good reason of why he is wondering that. Maybe because these sticks are out there broadcasting to farms and fields. And maybe because LBI decided to make these two stations HD even before touching the stations that actually cover Houston with a half decent signal.

 

[autopilot9]

There is no mis-conception. I can pick the staion in my house.

When you say he went HD on the Bay City stations before he even thought about touching the other stations, are you refering to KTJM and KQQK? Ask me what it is you want to know and I'll give you the real scoop.

 

[oldjohnny]

There is no mis-conception. I can pick the staion in my house.

When you say he went HD on the Bay City stations before he even thought about touching the other stations, are you refering to KTJM and KQQK? Ask me what it is you want to know and I'll give you the real scoop.

misconception...........about everyone listening to the radio in the car most of the time.

The real scoop, don't worry about that, we all know which tower was completed first and "what not". I wasn't referring to KTJM or KQQK only, but to KQUE, KEYH, and KSEV. Seems to me the KXGJ/KNTE duo seems to be broadcasting HD to serve no one at this moment. I have a difficult time understanding why both these stations were put up first before even making an attempt to install HD in their local AM's.

 

[jras20]

I dont really see how HD will work anyways. If it can only go out the 60db gain (IF) that then I dont see it going anywere. I cant even get KFMK's HD Signal 30 miles out with a dipole antenna. I would like to know if anyone can pick up KNTE with a dipole antenna inside downtown Houston? That would be interesting, since dipoles are the average user antenna setup.

 

[fredcantu]

I had an Austin GM tell me once that if an FM station could devote all of its bandwidth to HD Radio they could have have nine channels where they now have the main signal and one or two HDx channels.

I wonder who will be the first to try this out.

 

[autopilot9]

The real scoop, don't worry about that, we all know which tower was completed first and "what not". I wasn't referring to KTJM or KQQK only, but to KQUE, KEYH, and KSEV. Seems to me the KXGJ/KNTE duo seems to be broadcasting HD to serve no one at this moment. I have a difficult time understanding why both these stations were put up first before even making an attempt to install HD in their local AM's.

Rome wasn't built in a day. LBI has been building up its stations in this market since day one. I'm not convinced the IBOC on AM is the way to go. I'm not impressed with what I have heard so far.

KEYH, IBOC is way out of the question from it's present site/array. This site is due for a major overhaul this year.

KQUE is a 1KW Non-D station with a crappy ground system and no way to fix it with out moving the site. IBOC is the last thing it needs.

KSEV is a leased station. They do not want IBOC. If they show no intrest in IBOC, whyshould LBI push it on them.

KJOJ-AM well..... not much to say here.

 

[mrtexmex2007]

ok what is IBOC ??

 

[Mediafrog+]

I had an Austin GM tell me once that if an FM station could devote all of its bandwidth to HD Radio they could have have nine channels where they now have the main signal and one or two HDx channels.

This is the eventual future of what we now know as the FM band, but I don't see it happening for another 20-25 years. However, once the dust settles from OTA television's digital switch next year, I think the radio industry, the listening public and the FCC need to start a dialogue about what will eventually happen with terrestrial radio. The AM band is a dying dinosaur, and more efficient use needs to be made of the 88-108 MHz band. If listeners want more choice, and broadcasters want more program streams (with more revenue) then the technology needs to be radically updated.

There will be many who will oppose such changes. Of course, 50 years ago there were a lot of people who thought Color TV was just a frivolous fad that would fade away.

 

[autopilot9]

ok what is IBOC ??

Sorry about that... IBOC (In Band On Channel) is a the scheme in which FM and AM HD is done. A HD or digital Tv station broadcasts on a completely seperate channel. KZJL-TV (analog) is channel 61 and KZJL-DT (digital) is channel 44.

 

[jras20]

Well if they take away the fact that I wont be able to DX to Houston no more, or get 1 station signal, then I may get XM or whatever will be avaible if that happens. I just dont see how HD or (IBOC) will make it right now the way it is.

 

[oldjohnny]

The real scoop, don't worry about that, we all know which tower was completed first and "what not". I wasn't referring to KTJM or KQQK only, but to KQUE, KEYH, and KSEV. Seems to me the KXGJ/KNTE duo seems to be broadcasting HD to serve no one at this moment. I have a difficult time understanding why both these stations were put up first before even making an attempt to install HD in their local AM's.

Rome wasn't built in a day. LBI has been building up its stations in this market since day one. I'm not convinced the IBOC on AM is the way to go. I'm not impressed with what I have heard so far.

KEYH, IBOC is way out of the question from it's present site/array. This site is due for a major overhaul this year.

KQUE is a 1KW Non-D station with a crappy ground system and no way to fix it with out moving the site. IBOC is the last thing it needs.

KSEV is a leased station. They do not want IBOC. If they show no intrest in IBOC, whyshould LBI push it on them.

KJOJ-AM well..... not much to say here.

Sorry, I just don't see how putting HD in KNTE and KXGJ is still better than putting them on the Local station that actually cover the market.

Oh, just checked KFNC, and it was on HD yesterday.

 

[oldjohnny]

Well if they take away the fact that I wont be able to DX to Houston no more, or get 1 station signal, then I may get XM or whatever will be avaible if that happens. I just dont see how HD or (IBOC) will make it right now the way it is.

HD radio was not built with the intention of DXing. It's a sad thing because the "already" dying sport of DX'ing will completely die if Radio goes all digital. Somehow, I'm still trying to work out some things to see what better ways to work HD radio. So far, my best DX during the day was WBAP to Navasota TX, That's almost 170 miles! And it was raining too. For FM, I have to wait for the right conditions (night time) to catch some of San Antonio's HD stations.