KNX is receivable at night in Denver. KCBS isn't, in part due to antenna patterns, and in part due to KVOR in Colorado Springs, which is receivable in Denver day and night (though most listeners wouldn't put up with the quality of reception).
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KNX Los Angeles and KCBS San Francisco to Simulcast Overnight Programming
- Thread starter Joey1986
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When I saw your post late last night, I had to get a quick listen before falling asleep, and listened from 12:55-1 am, only 5 minutes, but enough to hear the absolute mess of a traffic report. It's one long run on of a mess, Its now twice as long, with no formal separation between LA (which came first) and the SFBA. I would recommend a 'sounder' to alert the listener, we're now going to talk traffic in a different region.This was the longest traffic report I've ever heard at almost a minute and a half in length. Should never be longer than 30 seconds.
The female traffic reporter was obviously based at KCBS. It was humorous listening to her mistakenly mess up the LA freeway numbers and correcting herself..."and that's at Western and the 405, uh, make that the 105".
I'm sure this new overnight show will iron out the wrinkles, and improve. But please, work on that traffic report, and make it listenable.
Oh, and the legal ID was for KNX only down here.
KCBS may not be receivable in Denver, but -- and I've written this before -- I was able to listen to KCBS while driving after dark through western New Mexico and most of Arizona on Interstate 40. It sounded almost like a local station, clear and powerful. KCBS (and KGO) used to come into SoCal like locals in the good olde days. (Here I'm hedging because it's been such a long time since I was last down there.) The problem is that most listeners won't put up with the condition of the AM band, night or day, period.
Yes, KCBS is basically a local in San Diego and overtakes a 740 local in Phoenix. KIDR Phoenix is licensed at 292 watts at night ND. I lived about 5-6 miles from their transmitter site, and KIDR still had to dogfight with KCBS to be heard.
Oh, it came in great in eastern Nevada when I was going through there two years ago, though mixing it up somewhat with Edmonton.
Also, a couple of years ago, I was in Santa Fe, NM - the only San Francisco (can't use SF as an abbreviation in this sentence) AM station I could pick up was KNBR.
The main obstacle here is KVOR. That would be the case along most of the Front Range in Colorado. There's also a 740 in Cortez, CO, in the southwest part of the state. It looks like it could be the main station on the frequency in the Four Corners at night. I-40 is somewhat farther south; you probably wouldn't have the interference there.
I haven't been back to Albuquerque since KDAZ (class D) moved from 730 to 700. It's possible there would be a clearer nighttime path for KCBS there now.
KFWB had "Traffic on the Ones", so to allow initiating a headline package for each fresh newscast, which started at :00, :20, :40 - followed immediately then by traffic... and then straight into the top story.
Listening with a SoCal ear, it seems like quite a few stories are of just local interest to NoCal communities. I heard references to Stockton, Oakland, Contra Costa County, and San Francisco. Seems it would be good to at least expand the airing of the TOH CBS network newscast to its full 5-minute broadcast, rather than the shorter 3-minute stub currently being aired. That would at least provide more content of interest regardless of where in the state one listens to this simulcast.
Also, the musical cues are KCBS's. Why is KNX getting the short shrift and having to sacrifice its audio branding during the overnight simulcast?
Also, the musical cues are KCBS's. Why is KNX getting the short shrift and having to sacrifice its audio branding during the overnight simulcast?
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Okay, then I recommend the same clock and the same imaging.
Or, presuming Audacy still knows how to run automation software, cutaways at the imaging points so each station runs its own branding.
Question: In San Diego, does KCBS dogfight nights now with KBRT since the latter moved from Avalon to Costa Mesa a few years back.
I didn't listen long enough to hear how they are 'branding' this. Outside of the TOH KNX ID, are there any station calls mentioned (a combined KNX/KCBS)? Just an idea...name the 5 hour block...'California News Overnight'.
Not at all I believe KBRT is directional with most of the signal directed towards the Pacific Ocean (190 watts). It's no match for the almighty KCBS.
Maybe KCBS has more to lose.
I listened for a bit a little after midnight. The cues sounded more like KNX than KCBS. KNX has refreshed theirs recently while KCBS largely hasn’t and sounds quite stale in comparison to KNX.
I agree. Interesting that WABC has a live, local weekend show.
They also have a billionaire owner for whom that radio station is a hobby. Not the case for most other stations.
I’ve heard Chicago traffic reports in the old days with 2 helicopters lasting seemingly forever, but probably 2 minutes or longer.
Northridge earthquake (4:30 A.M.) comes to mind. It is a shame that something big, bad, and maybe life threatening IS MOST CERTAINLY going to happen overnight and KNX will not be in position to cover it during those early, critical moments when listeners are looking for information and help. The clowns behind this are just rolling the dice, fooling themselves that they can cover a Los Angeles emergency “remotely.”
When people are sound asleep and not listening to radio. I slept through several earthquakes myself. It happens.
DHS is supposed to provide the information and help. Radio provides the signal.
We’ve all slept through earthquakes. But if a big one hits, the lights don’t work, your phone and computer are useless, where do you go? I used earthquakes as an example, another unfortunately frequent overnight emergency has been wildfire evacuations. We learned during the most recent wildfires that government information sources can be buggy and flawed. All news radio is expensive and the harsh reality is you often feel like you are filling time waiting for news to happen. But - this is the 2nd largest city in the U.S. - there’s no excuse for KNX to punt on a major overnight emergency.