That's what I meant. Finding songs usually means buying songs, and they may not have that kind of budget.
It also becomes harder when you want to play "wow" songs that might not be as accessible.
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KOAI Flips to The Wow Factor
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That's what I meant. Finding songs usually means buying songs, and they may not have that kind of budget.
It also becomes harder when you want to play "wow" songs that might not be as accessible.
When 95.1 was The Oasis (both Soft AC and Classic Hits phases), they were using a music library service. Alongside the re-record of Robbie Dupree's "Steal Away," they played some pretty heavily (and sometimes poorly) edited versions of certain songs ("Best of My Love" by The Eagles was the best example). I believe KDRI is using the same service that KOAI used to use.
There are many low-cost services for music libraries. The cost is generally around a buck a song when you order the compilations, but some offer massive lists for much less.
http://www.h-b-s.com/hitdrivefaqs.htm has over 4000 songs for $495 on a flash drive!
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Great...someone should forward the info to Sebastian.
I remember when XM launched they were using re-recordings of just about all of Shenandoah's country hits of the late '80s/early '90s. Dropped them a note and actually got thanked, and shortly afterward the genuine articles were in the library and in rotation. Sometimes even professionals just don't know what they're ordering, I guess.
Right this moment, WOW is playing the 1989 (or it might even be the 2002) re-record of Benny Mardones' creepy 1980 hit "Into The Night." I'm surprised that radio pros can't differentiate the original recordings from the re-records. I can see a small-town country station doing it by getting cheap Walmart CD compilations, but a major market radio station or SiriusXM? There's a syndicated "Yacht Rock Radio" show (not related to SiriusXM's channel) that uses a lot of re-records, too.
The Wow Factor
I really enjoyed ME-TV FM when I lived in Chicago, so hoping The Wow Factor heads in that direction. Adding a bit of country sounds like a station I could hear when I lived in up in Cave Creek recently (KRKY), a surprisingly enjoyable mix of soft rock, classic rock, and country.
I really enjoyed ME-TV FM when I lived in Chicago, so hoping The Wow Factor heads in that direction. Adding a bit of country sounds like a station I could hear when I lived in up in Cave Creek recently (KRKY), a surprisingly enjoyable mix of soft rock, classic rock, and country.
The difference was obvious on their "Two Dozen Roses." The lead vocal from Marty Raybon had different phrasing in spots, and the instrumental backing was limp, lacking almost all the punch of the original. How XM's country music people couldn't tell the difference is beyond me. This wasn't "oh wow" material, it was one of the band's signature hits. Maybe they were just trying to save money as much as possible in those early years and stocked up the library in haste, taking the suppliers' word on the authenticity of the recordings they were buying. They outsourced the PAD data (on-screen title/artist display) to an outfit called LoudEye back then, and those folks had horrendous quality control. There may still be "Goerge Strait" and "Van Morriosn" tracks in the library to this day. Conway Twitty's "That's My Job" was "That's My Baby" for years, and poor Dan Fogelberg's "Run for the Roses" and several other tracks by other artists just appeared as the title in both slots -- Run for the Roses by Run for the Roses.
By the way, is it a requirement now to include how creepy the subject matter is whenever "Into the Night" is mentioned? Is it now one of those songs that no one dares admit liking? And if so, why not the same for "Only Sixteen" and "I Saw Her Standing There," whose female objects of desire are also underage? I understand the objections to the Mardones song, but I've always enjoyed it for its powerhouse delivery and production and still do. I sure hope I'm not being told I'm an awful human being for doing so.
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Noticed this yesterday as well. There was an odd re-recorded version of the Herman’s Hermits singing, “Mrs. Brown You’ve Got a Lovely Daughter.” It sounded awful, like it was recorded in someone’s basement and it was definitely not the original. Sounded like it was re-recorded in the 80’s!
The worst example of XM’s awful artist/song title data was Mike Reno and Ann Wilson’s “Almost Paradise” showing up as “Abou Ben Adhem” by Robert Powell. There were some other duzeys, but that one stands out.
I didn’t think much about the creepiness factor of “Into The Night” until I first saw what they called “promotional film” for the song (it’s on YouTube). That turns up the creepiness quotient.
That's hilarious!
It's possible the Eagles track was the 45 version which has somewhat of a jarring edit at 3:07 in the 45 version.
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I suppose any busy programmer doesn't have the time to listen to each individual track in the active tested library. I can't believe anyone who's been in the business as long as John Sebastian wouldn't know the difference between a re-record and the original recording. Unless he inherited a library where the previous PD or MD didn't know.
Too bad they aren't playing the single version of Two Tickets To Paradise. It's far superior to the album version and is available on PLaylist: The Best Of Eddie Money though the collection is hard to find these days since it's the only CD that contains the single version.
Has anyone noticed any newly tested songs being played that weren't played at launch time or any songs that have been dropped?
I suppose any busy programmer doesn't have the time to listen to each individual track in the active tested library. I can't believe anyone who's been in the business as long as John Sebastian wouldn't know the difference between a re-record and the original recording. Unless he inherited a library where the previous PD or MD didn't know.
Too bad they aren't playing the single version of Two Tickets To Paradise. It's far superior to the album version and is available on PLaylist: The Best Of Eddie Money though the collection is hard to find these days since it's the only CD that contains the single version.
Has anyone noticed any newly tested songs being played that weren't played at launch time or any songs that have been dropped?
Listening to the wow factor, it reminds me a whole lot of KPPV, aka, the mix.
Locally, it is also known as "the hodgepodge." You never really know what
you might hear next........
Locally, it is also known as "the hodgepodge." You never really know what
you might hear next........
Does KOAI come in pretty good up there in Prescott? I know a lot of the Phoenix stations are blocked out now due to translators.
Sebastian says he's "researched and tested every song" in the format. I'd like to see the specifics before I signed up.
What difference does it make? There's nothing new about this playlist. It's Oldies, Classic Hits/Rock, Soft AC, and some random Country tunes. It's aimed at the 55+ demos which ad agencies shun like lepers. It's a waste of time to "test" any of this music. It's been done to death. It's absurd to think of anyone "testing" some of these relics in 2019...
Yes, but how quick is the rotation before something gets rested if it shows up unfavorably?
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