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KODF and Dish Network

KODF is showing a screen on their channel saying "This channel is temporarily off the air etc....
 
Waaay back in the analog era, KODF aired Azteca.

I don't get Dish's local stations (why pay for something you can get for free?) but I think I read that Dish kept Azteca on the "KODF" channel (26) even after KODF had switched to Mega TV. If so, they were probably picking it up via KLEG/44 or KATA/50.3, both of which have since switched to a static "Azteca is now on KAZD/55" (en Español) slide.

Assuming Dish already has KAZD/55 as a local station, airing that slide would be a waste of bandwidth. The question now is, will they switch the "KODF" channel back to KODF/26, or just drop it?
 
JHBrandt said:
I don't get Dish's local stations (why pay for something you can get for free?)
You have an obsolete programming package like me. I recently found out any changes you make in your package, up- or downgrade, and you suddenly are "upgraded" to the new mandatory locals at $5 a mo. more! Took me 2 hours fussing with a Dish CSR to get that taken off and save the $5 a mo. after I made a change. Told him there's no comparison of Dish's limited "locals" to the almost 70 OTA channels I receive. Had "locals" for 2 days to realize only 6 in HD and most if not all sub-channels missing, so what's the good in that?
 
JHBrandt said:
Waaay back in the analog era, KODF aired Azteca.

I don't get Dish's local stations (why pay for something you can get for free?) but I think I read that Dish kept Azteca on the "KODF" channel (26) even after KODF had switched to Mega TV. If so, they were probably picking it up via KLEG/44 or KATA/50.3, both of which have since switched to a static "Azteca is now on KAZD/55" (en Español) slide.

Assuming Dish already has KAZD/55 as a local station, airing that slide would be a waste of bandwidth. The question now is, will they switch the "KODF" channel back to KODF/26, or just drop it?

Dish has sometimes lagged at changing the calls of stations (I think it took a year for KMWB to become WUCW)...and in San Diego in August 2008, after the switch there, KSWB moved to 6 and XETV was moved to 69 (to keep Fox on 6 ostensibly).

Charlie and Dish Network are best described by the words "motley" and "quirky".
 
Megapsycle said:
JHBrandt said:
I don't get Dish's local stations (why pay for something you can get for free?)

You have an obsolete programming package like me. I recently found out any changes you make in your package, up- or downgrade, and you suddenly are "upgraded" to the new mandatory locals at $5 a mo. more! Took me 2 hours fussing with a Dish CSR to get that taken off and save the $5 a mo. after I made a change. Told him there's no comparison of Dish's limited "locals" to the almost 70 OTA channels I receive. Had "locals" for 2 days to realize only 6 in HD and most if not all sub-channels missing, so what's the good in that?

It's strictly for convenience. For $5/mo, you tune "everything" through your satellite box. Of course post-transition, "everything" isn't really everything, and I'd just as soon not have "convenience" (and the associated $5/mo charge) rammed down my throat. Over the 10 years of my Dish subscription, I've saved enough to buy my antenna system 2 or 3 times over!

What's really odd is that Dish Network made the only OTA DVR I know of. Now sold under the Channel Master brand, it's still clearly the same Dish product - the user interface is very similar to that of their satellite receivers, and the remote looks just like the Dish satellite remotes.

They also used to make a converter box which was just a stripped-down version of the same product. (No DVR or HD outputs, to make it eligible for the gov't coupons.) But if you tried to buy it through Dish, they'd check your shipping address, and wouldn't sell it to you if you had a satellite subscription! You had to buy it through a third party. (It cost less that way anyhow.) Clearly there's been some confusion at Dish over how much to cater to OTA viewers.
 
JHBrandt said:
What's really odd is that Dish Network made the only OTA DVR I know of. Now sold under the Channel Master brand, it's still clearly the same Dish product - the user interface is very similar to that of their satellite receivers, and the remote looks just like the Dish satellite remotes.



Yep I have a Dish DTVPal DVR have had it about two years now, sits on top of the ViP722. I had the DTV DVR for a year before I got Dish after C-Band which I had since late '87 pretty much became obsolete. Most of the functions are very similar some of the programming setup for recordings aren't as simple. And I keep grabbing the wrong remote to this day.
 
Megapsycle said:
Yep I have a Dish DTVPal DVR have had it about two years now, sits on top of the ViP722. I had the DTV DVR for a year before I got Dish after C-Band which I had since late '87 pretty much became obsolete. Most of the functions are very similar some of the programming setup for recordings aren't as simple. And I keep grabbing the wrong remote to this day.

Did you have to reprogram one of your remotes to a different address so they wouldn't operate both boxes at once?
 
JHBrandt said:
Did you have to reprogram one of your remotes to a different address so they wouldn't operate both boxes at once?

Nope although I have read there's been a problem with this combination, not with my two units.
 
Megapsycle said:
JHBrandt said:
Did you have to reprogram one of your remotes to a different address so they wouldn't operate both boxes at once?

Nope although I have read there's been a problem with this combination, not with my two units.

It's possible the Dish Network installer reprogrammed one for you. (You can look at the "System Info" screen on each unit to see if the remote addresses are different.) Or perhaps the satellite remote is RF. (The DTVPal remote is infrared, of course.)
 
JHBrandt said:
Megapsycle said:
JHBrandt said:
Did you have to reprogram one of your remotes to a different address so they wouldn't operate both boxes at once?

Nope although I have read there's been a problem with this combination, not with my two units.

It's possible the Dish Network installer reprogrammed one for you. (You can look at the "System Info" screen on each unit to see if the remote addresses are different.) Or perhaps the satellite remote is RF. (The DTVPal remote is infrared, of course.)

No don't think so. He wasn't aware I had the DTVpal which was in another room. I showed it to him after all was done and he was leaving since he said he'd never seen one before and I was mentioning how similar the menus and functions were. They just happened to work that way out of the box. I bought the Pal new, and the Dish receiver was new in a sealed box when the Dish installer set it up for the first time.
 
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