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KOKE FILES TO UPGRADE 98.5 TRANSLATOR

Oh yea, that more than doubles the current area. Wonder how long it takes to get something like this approved and implemented?
 
Emmis is already leasing KLZT-HD3 to KDRP. So, either there will be some shuffling of HD signals at Emmis, Emmis is upgrading the HD transmitter for 107.1 and will add additional multicast channels, KDRP will no longer be transmitting on 107.1 HD3, or the 98.5 translator will begin translating KDRP instead of KOKE-FM.
 
mmnassour said:
Oh yea, that more than doubles the current area. Wonder how long it takes to get something like this approved and implemented?

Currently this requires 30 to 45 days for approval (if there are no issues).

BTW, HD-4's are viable if you don't care what they sound like.
 
That coverage won't help me none :(. To bad they can't get on a power house station with Austin coverage.
 
mmnassour said:
There are what, six radios in Austin capable of HD-4? ;D

Give or take, yes, that sounds about right. As just about everybody knows, HD sub-channels in Austin seem to exist for the sole purpose of providing programming to translators. Who would have thought that translators could be making an impact, with a maximum of just 250 watts versus the established full-power stations?
 
jd said:
Give or take, yes, that sounds about right. As just about everybody knows, HD sub-channels in Austin seem to exist for the sole purpose of providing programming to translators. Who would have thought that translators could be making an impact, with a maximum of just 250 watts versus the established full-power stations?

Get it up high enough, get something on it that no one else has (comedy), and get enough people on it (MoPac traffic anyone?) and it works. Especially if the owner is willing to do the least promotion.
 
If the "KOKE" is filing to do the upgrade repeating a KLZT HD4 signal, it's seems that KOKE must be going to lease the KLZT HD4 channel and have it repeated on the translator. It will sound much worse than the 99.3 sound. As I recall, a HD4 channel has a 11k bandwith. They'd be better off taking the KLGO AM signal and using that to originate programming to the translator which allows for a direct connect for audio instead of repeating an existing signal that is not full bandwith. Then they could use the 99.3 for something else. For that matter they could use 99.3, 98.5 and 1490 and skip the HD4 channel altogether and compete more effectively.
 
radioeye said:
As I recall, a HD4 channel has a 11k bandwith.

Not necessarily. IBOC has a maximum overall bandwidth that can be divided up any way the broadcaster sees fit. Same thing with digital TV.

The few HD4 channels that exist have been for spoken word programming, thus the low bandwidth for those examples.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
radioeye said:
As I recall, a HD4 channel has a 11k bandwith.

Not necessarily. IBOC has a maximum overall bandwidth that can be divided up any way the broadcaster sees fit. Same thing with digital TV.

The few HD4 channels that exist have been for spoken word programming, thus the low bandwidth for those examples.

Thanks for the clarification. But in any case, I don't think that the sub channels can match a direct audio connection. The sub channels that I used to hear before my HD reciever died didn't sound all and all that good. The main HD channels sounded fine. Incidently, I didn't replace the Sangean HD unit when it fried.
 
I wonder if they can feed the translator directly if it's on KLZT HD4? Under normal FCC rules, a station can feed a translator through a means other than off-air if the translator is entirely within the main station's primary signal contour. I'd assume the same rules would apply to an HD subchannel since the FCC has determined a subchannel isn't separate from the main signal.
 
Kent said:
I wonder if they can feed the translator directly if it's on KLZT HD4? Under normal FCC rules, a station can feed a translator through a means other than off-air if the translator is entirely within the main station's primary signal contour. I'd assume the same rules would apply to an HD subchannel since the FCC has determined a subchannel isn't separate from the main signal.

Kent you bring up a good point. I think as a "fill in" it's definitely allowed. I don't think that a secondary service can effectively "originate prgramming" But maybe it's allowed. It's hard to tell on 102.7.
 
Kent said:
I wonder if they can feed the translator directly if it's on KLZT HD4? Under normal FCC rules, a station can feed a translator through a means other than off-air if the translator is entirely within the main station's primary signal contour. I'd assume the same rules would apply to an HD subchannel since the FCC has determined a subchannel isn't separate from the main signal.

The Commission considers an HD channel to be equal in coverage and status to the analog channel. A translator that is a 'fill-in" for an HD channel can be fed by any means.
 
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