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bueller
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So EMF buys KOKF.. I hope they leave it alone. 91 FM is one of the best Christian stations ever put on the air. Don't replace it with Air 1.
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> So EMF buys KOKF.. I hope they leave it alone. 91 FM is one
> of the best Christian stations ever put on the air. Don't
> replace it with Air 1.
I'd like to think they'll keep it, but it's toast. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I know it won't happen. EMF doesn't operate that way. Sad, too. KOKF wasn't a bad station, not even to this non-Christian.
> of the best Christian stations ever put on the air. Don't
> replace it with Air 1.
I'd like to think they'll keep it, but it's toast. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I know it won't happen. EMF doesn't operate that way. Sad, too. KOKF wasn't a bad station, not even to this non-Christian.
I wonder if EMF will move KYLV to KOKF's bigger signal, and then put Air1 on what is now KYLV; there certainly would be a precedent.
Oklahoma City is one of only a few markets with two Christian CHRs (the others are Nashville, TN; Clarksville, TN; and Valdosta, GA), since The House has a translator in OKC. OKC also has the distinction of running the Inspirational-AC-CHR-Rock gamut.
I also wonder how much Praise 88.7 could get for the KLVV calls from EMF . . .<P ID="signature">______________
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Oklahoma City is one of only a few markets with two Christian CHRs (the others are Nashville, TN; Clarksville, TN; and Valdosta, GA), since The House has a translator in OKC. OKC also has the distinction of running the Inspirational-AC-CHR-Rock gamut.
I also wonder how much Praise 88.7 could get for the KLVV calls from EMF . . .<P ID="signature">______________
> I wonder if EMF will move KYLV to KOKF's bigger signal, and
> then put Air1 on what is now KYLV; there certainly would be
> a precedent.
According to R&R, the transaction is dependent on KOKF running an EMF satellite format. Whether it will be K-Love or Air-1 is anyone's guess at this point. It actually makes sense to put K-Love on 90.9 and Air-1 on 88.9 due to signal quality. However, we're talking EMF. So, we'll have to wait and see.
> I also wonder how much Praise 88.7 could get for the KLVV
> calls from EMF . . .
I remember first discovering KLVV and thinking it was a service of the K-Love network. Given that the calls aren't doing them much good, it would be interesting to see if they could get any money off of those calls.
> then put Air1 on what is now KYLV; there certainly would be
> a precedent.
According to R&R, the transaction is dependent on KOKF running an EMF satellite format. Whether it will be K-Love or Air-1 is anyone's guess at this point. It actually makes sense to put K-Love on 90.9 and Air-1 on 88.9 due to signal quality. However, we're talking EMF. So, we'll have to wait and see.
> I also wonder how much Praise 88.7 could get for the KLVV
> calls from EMF . . .
I remember first discovering KLVV and thinking it was a service of the K-Love network. Given that the calls aren't doing them much good, it would be interesting to see if they could get any money off of those calls.
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brian_marchand
Guest
It would not surprise me to see K-Love move to 90.9 but KYLV 88.9 has a CP to upgrade from (4400 Watts @ 676 feet) to (39,000 Watts @ 674 feet) which gives KOKF and KYLV almost the exact same coverage area according to radio-locator.com. So I would guess they would not switch because of that. The only differnce is KYLV 88.9 is weaker to the southeast because of a directional antenna. It would not surprise me to see EMF apply to lower the power on 90.9 and raise the antenna height similiar to 88.9's CP.
> It would not surprise me to see K-Love move to 90.9 but KYLV
> 88.9 has a CP to upgrade from (4400 Watts @ 676 feet) to
> (39,000 Watts @ 674 feet) which gives KOKF and KYLV almost
> the exact same coverage area according to radio-locator.com.
> So I would guess they would not switch because of that. The
> only differnce is KYLV 88.9 is weaker to the southeast
> because of a directional antenna. It would not surprise me
> to see EMF apply to lower the power on 90.9 and raise the
> antenna height similiar to 88.9's CP.
From what it looks like, the two will be very close if not on the same tower. If they're on the same tower, one will be higher up on the tower than the other, which means you won't likely see both at similar powers.
> 88.9 has a CP to upgrade from (4400 Watts @ 676 feet) to
> (39,000 Watts @ 674 feet) which gives KOKF and KYLV almost
> the exact same coverage area according to radio-locator.com.
> So I would guess they would not switch because of that. The
> only differnce is KYLV 88.9 is weaker to the southeast
> because of a directional antenna. It would not surprise me
> to see EMF apply to lower the power on 90.9 and raise the
> antenna height similiar to 88.9's CP.
From what it looks like, the two will be very close if not on the same tower. If they're on the same tower, one will be higher up on the tower than the other, which means you won't likely see both at similar powers.
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brian_marchand
Guest
I thought they were on the same tower. I don't live in Oklahmoma but have visited and seen the big tower farm in the north part of the city along the interstate. 90.9 is 436 feet. 88.9 is 673 feet and there are others on the tower too. I was just speculating that I am sure EMF would have room on the tower to move their antenna up higher if they wanted and lower the power covering the same area.
Also, it is fun to speculate about how EMF could use the KLVV calls that are on 88.7 but I doubt they would pay for them.
Also, it is fun to speculate about how EMF could use the KLVV calls that are on 88.7 but I doubt they would pay for them.
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brian_marchand
Guest
I think KOKF was one of my favorite radio stations and it is sad to see it go. When I has visited Ok City in the 90's I loved the station. The onlt thing I did not like was the heavy metal overnights. No station in the country was like KOKF. I guess for some reason they decided to sell the station and agreed on a price with EMF. Perhaps they chose EMF because although KOKF will be formatted differently it will still be a christian chr station playing upbeat music for young people.
Air1 will be covering most of the populated areas in Ok now. Ok City, Tulsa, Enid, Bartlesville, Stillwater, Lawton and Fort Smith, AR. A few years back I remember reading how KOKF wanted to expand to other parts of the state but never did.
Air1 will be covering most of the populated areas in Ok now. Ok City, Tulsa, Enid, Bartlesville, Stillwater, Lawton and Fort Smith, AR. A few years back I remember reading how KOKF wanted to expand to other parts of the state but never did.
> I thought they were on the same tower. I don't live in
> Oklahmoma but have visited and seen the big tower farm in
> the north part of the city along the interstate. 90.9 is 436
> feet. 88.9 is 673 feet and there are others on the tower
> too. I was just speculating that I am sure EMF would have
> room on the tower to move their antenna up higher if they
> wanted and lower the power covering the same area.
It looks like both are at least in the main antenna farm if not on the same tower. I remember KOKF was at the antenna farm, though I don't remember KYLV 88.9 being there. Of course, when I was in Oklahoma City, 88.9 was still KOCC, and I seem to remember its transmitter was closer to OCC than the main antenna farm. Personally, I would have liked to have seen OCC hold onto 88.9. I rather liked that station and was sad to see it go. OCC tried to convert it to an internet-only station, but, as I understand it, the KOCC internet radio concept has pretty much died. When working, it was a good alternative to KMGL and KYIS, and the interruptions were much more limited.
> Also, it is fun to speculate about how EMF could use the
> KLVV calls that are on 88.7 but I doubt they would pay for
> them.
Agreed. K-Love hasn't paid for those calls to date, and they're probably not going to in the future.
> I think KOKF was one of my favorite radio stations and it is
> sad to see it go. When I has visited Ok City in the 90's I
> loved the station. The onlt thing I did not like was the
> heavy metal overnights. No station in the country was like
> KOKF. I guess for some reason they decided to sell the
> station and agreed on a price with EMF. Perhaps they chose
> EMF because although KOKF will be formatted differently it
> will still be a christian chr station playing upbeat music
> for young people.
I agree that it will be sad to see KOKF go. Like you said, it was a very unique station, and it was also a local station. It just won't be the same as a faceless transmitter relaying a national network. The $4 million pricetag is really pretty steep for a non-commercial outlet, and I suspect it also meant something to the owners that the station would remain Christian. The RRC doesn't list any ratings information for KOKF. I'd guess they either didn't subscribe and/or fared poorly. So, it's really not too surprising the owners disposed of it given those circumstances.
> Air1 will be covering most of the populated areas in Ok now.
> Ok City, Tulsa, Enid, Bartlesville, Stillwater, Lawton and
> Fort Smith, AR. A few years back I remember reading how KOKF
> wanted to expand to other parts of the state but never did.
KOKF had wanted to expand to other parts of the state for quite some time from what I heard. That they couldn't for either financial or practical reasons probably influenced the sale to EMF as well. And, yes, you're correct that Air-1 will cover much of Oklahoma. It looks like Air-1 has better coverage in Texas and Oklahoma than just about anywhere else.
> Oklahmoma but have visited and seen the big tower farm in
> the north part of the city along the interstate. 90.9 is 436
> feet. 88.9 is 673 feet and there are others on the tower
> too. I was just speculating that I am sure EMF would have
> room on the tower to move their antenna up higher if they
> wanted and lower the power covering the same area.
It looks like both are at least in the main antenna farm if not on the same tower. I remember KOKF was at the antenna farm, though I don't remember KYLV 88.9 being there. Of course, when I was in Oklahoma City, 88.9 was still KOCC, and I seem to remember its transmitter was closer to OCC than the main antenna farm. Personally, I would have liked to have seen OCC hold onto 88.9. I rather liked that station and was sad to see it go. OCC tried to convert it to an internet-only station, but, as I understand it, the KOCC internet radio concept has pretty much died. When working, it was a good alternative to KMGL and KYIS, and the interruptions were much more limited.
> Also, it is fun to speculate about how EMF could use the
> KLVV calls that are on 88.7 but I doubt they would pay for
> them.
Agreed. K-Love hasn't paid for those calls to date, and they're probably not going to in the future.
> I think KOKF was one of my favorite radio stations and it is
> sad to see it go. When I has visited Ok City in the 90's I
> loved the station. The onlt thing I did not like was the
> heavy metal overnights. No station in the country was like
> KOKF. I guess for some reason they decided to sell the
> station and agreed on a price with EMF. Perhaps they chose
> EMF because although KOKF will be formatted differently it
> will still be a christian chr station playing upbeat music
> for young people.
I agree that it will be sad to see KOKF go. Like you said, it was a very unique station, and it was also a local station. It just won't be the same as a faceless transmitter relaying a national network. The $4 million pricetag is really pretty steep for a non-commercial outlet, and I suspect it also meant something to the owners that the station would remain Christian. The RRC doesn't list any ratings information for KOKF. I'd guess they either didn't subscribe and/or fared poorly. So, it's really not too surprising the owners disposed of it given those circumstances.
> Air1 will be covering most of the populated areas in Ok now.
> Ok City, Tulsa, Enid, Bartlesville, Stillwater, Lawton and
> Fort Smith, AR. A few years back I remember reading how KOKF
> wanted to expand to other parts of the state but never did.
KOKF had wanted to expand to other parts of the state for quite some time from what I heard. That they couldn't for either financial or practical reasons probably influenced the sale to EMF as well. And, yes, you're correct that Air-1 will cover much of Oklahoma. It looks like Air-1 has better coverage in Texas and Oklahoma than just about anywhere else.
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GaryThompson
Guest
I'm interested to see what's going to happen to Brandon and the crew at KOKF. It will be good to see them surface again somewhere else.
In regard to KLVV and the House. There are some GREAT people there. I wish them the best as well.
Just look at the Christian radio landscape of today's OKC as compared to 10 years ago.
Circa 1996, KOKF was the ONLY CCM in OKC. NOW look at it.
You've got the House, K-Love and Air1 moving in.
Same type of situation in Tulsa. 10 years ago, the only CCM in Tulsa was my beloved employer (KXOJ).
Now you've got KXOJ, KCXR, Air 1 and Spirit 102.3
If nothing else, the scope of this format is broadening and more people than ever are hearing the music. I'd say that in the broad spectrum of things...this is all good.
> > I thought they were on the same tower. I don't live in
> > Oklahmoma but have visited and seen the big tower farm in
> > the north part of the city along the interstate. 90.9 is
> 436
> > feet. 88.9 is 673 feet and there are others on the tower
> > too. I was just speculating that I am sure EMF would have
> > room on the tower to move their antenna up higher if they
> > wanted and lower the power covering the same area.
>
> It looks like both are at least in the main antenna farm if
> not on the same tower. I remember KOKF was at the antenna
> farm, though I don't remember KYLV 88.9 being there. Of
> course, when I was in Oklahoma City, 88.9 was still KOCC,
> and I seem to remember its transmitter was closer to OCC
> than the main antenna farm. Personally, I would have liked
> to have seen OCC hold onto 88.9. I rather liked that
> station and was sad to see it go. OCC tried to convert it
> to an internet-only station, but, as I understand it, the
> KOCC internet radio concept has pretty much died. When
> working, it was a good alternative to KMGL and KYIS, and the
> interruptions were much more limited.
>
> > Also, it is fun to speculate about how EMF could use the
> > KLVV calls that are on 88.7 but I doubt they would pay for
>
> > them.
>
> Agreed. K-Love hasn't paid for those calls to date, and
> they're probably not going to in the future.
>
> > I think KOKF was one of my favorite radio stations and it
> is
> > sad to see it go. When I has visited Ok City in the 90's I
>
> > loved the station. The onlt thing I did not like was the
> > heavy metal overnights. No station in the country was like
>
> > KOKF. I guess for some reason they decided to sell the
> > station and agreed on a price with EMF. Perhaps they chose
>
> > EMF because although KOKF will be formatted differently it
>
> > will still be a christian chr station playing upbeat music
>
> > for young people.
>
> I agree that it will be sad to see KOKF go. Like you said,
> it was a very unique station, and it was also a local
> station. It just won't be the same as a faceless
> transmitter relaying a national network. The $4 million
> pricetag is really pretty steep for a non-commercial outlet,
> and I suspect it also meant something to the owners that the
> station would remain Christian. The RRC doesn't list any
> ratings information for KOKF. I'd guess they either didn't
> subscribe and/or fared poorly. So, it's really not too
> surprising the owners disposed of it given those
> circumstances.
>
> > Air1 will be covering most of the populated areas in Ok
> now.
> > Ok City, Tulsa, Enid, Bartlesville, Stillwater, Lawton and
>
> > Fort Smith, AR. A few years back I remember reading how
> KOKF
> > wanted to expand to other parts of the state but never
> did.
>
> KOKF had wanted to expand to other parts of the state for
> quite some time from what I heard. That they couldn't for
> either financial or practical reasons probably influenced
> the sale to EMF as well. And, yes, you're correct that
> Air-1 will cover much of Oklahoma. It looks like Air-1 has
> better coverage in Texas and Oklahoma than just about
> anywhere else.
>
In regard to KLVV and the House. There are some GREAT people there. I wish them the best as well.
Just look at the Christian radio landscape of today's OKC as compared to 10 years ago.
Circa 1996, KOKF was the ONLY CCM in OKC. NOW look at it.
You've got the House, K-Love and Air1 moving in.
Same type of situation in Tulsa. 10 years ago, the only CCM in Tulsa was my beloved employer (KXOJ).
Now you've got KXOJ, KCXR, Air 1 and Spirit 102.3
If nothing else, the scope of this format is broadening and more people than ever are hearing the music. I'd say that in the broad spectrum of things...this is all good.
> > I thought they were on the same tower. I don't live in
> > Oklahmoma but have visited and seen the big tower farm in
> > the north part of the city along the interstate. 90.9 is
> 436
> > feet. 88.9 is 673 feet and there are others on the tower
> > too. I was just speculating that I am sure EMF would have
> > room on the tower to move their antenna up higher if they
> > wanted and lower the power covering the same area.
>
> It looks like both are at least in the main antenna farm if
> not on the same tower. I remember KOKF was at the antenna
> farm, though I don't remember KYLV 88.9 being there. Of
> course, when I was in Oklahoma City, 88.9 was still KOCC,
> and I seem to remember its transmitter was closer to OCC
> than the main antenna farm. Personally, I would have liked
> to have seen OCC hold onto 88.9. I rather liked that
> station and was sad to see it go. OCC tried to convert it
> to an internet-only station, but, as I understand it, the
> KOCC internet radio concept has pretty much died. When
> working, it was a good alternative to KMGL and KYIS, and the
> interruptions were much more limited.
>
> > Also, it is fun to speculate about how EMF could use the
> > KLVV calls that are on 88.7 but I doubt they would pay for
>
> > them.
>
> Agreed. K-Love hasn't paid for those calls to date, and
> they're probably not going to in the future.
>
> > I think KOKF was one of my favorite radio stations and it
> is
> > sad to see it go. When I has visited Ok City in the 90's I
>
> > loved the station. The onlt thing I did not like was the
> > heavy metal overnights. No station in the country was like
>
> > KOKF. I guess for some reason they decided to sell the
> > station and agreed on a price with EMF. Perhaps they chose
>
> > EMF because although KOKF will be formatted differently it
>
> > will still be a christian chr station playing upbeat music
>
> > for young people.
>
> I agree that it will be sad to see KOKF go. Like you said,
> it was a very unique station, and it was also a local
> station. It just won't be the same as a faceless
> transmitter relaying a national network. The $4 million
> pricetag is really pretty steep for a non-commercial outlet,
> and I suspect it also meant something to the owners that the
> station would remain Christian. The RRC doesn't list any
> ratings information for KOKF. I'd guess they either didn't
> subscribe and/or fared poorly. So, it's really not too
> surprising the owners disposed of it given those
> circumstances.
>
> > Air1 will be covering most of the populated areas in Ok
> now.
> > Ok City, Tulsa, Enid, Bartlesville, Stillwater, Lawton and
>
> > Fort Smith, AR. A few years back I remember reading how
> KOKF
> > wanted to expand to other parts of the state but never
> did.
>
> KOKF had wanted to expand to other parts of the state for
> quite some time from what I heard. That they couldn't for
> either financial or practical reasons probably influenced
> the sale to EMF as well. And, yes, you're correct that
> Air-1 will cover much of Oklahoma. It looks like Air-1 has
> better coverage in Texas and Oklahoma than just about
> anywhere else.
>
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punkrawkheaven
Guest
Your right, I think Losing KOKF will be a bad deal. I think they're really one of the "founding fathers" of there format (0f course I dont know much about radio outside of OKC), LOL. But I do know this, They will be missed. Best of Luck to Rocky, Brandon, and the gang.
Another station I think is doing super is 89.7 The House, Tony Weir and the gang's done great in formatting that station. When I was a baby DJ In Woodward I would occasionly tune in to 88.7 (although it was static 95% of the time). Back when it was Love 88.7 KLVV (now its Prais 88.7). I try to support both stations finanacailly (but I work in television so you know how that goes).
Take care
Jef
Another station I think is doing super is 89.7 The House, Tony Weir and the gang's done great in formatting that station. When I was a baby DJ In Woodward I would occasionly tune in to 88.7 (although it was static 95% of the time). Back when it was Love 88.7 KLVV (now its Prais 88.7). I try to support both stations finanacailly (but I work in television so you know how that goes).
Take care
Jef
> Oklahoma City is one of only a few markets with two
> Christian CHRs (the others are Nashville, TN; Clarksville,
> TN; and Valdosta, GA), since The House has a translator in
> OKC.
Don't forget about Tulsa, which has 4.
> Christian CHRs (the others are Nashville, TN; Clarksville,
> TN; and Valdosta, GA), since The House has a translator in
> OKC.
Don't forget about Tulsa, which has 4.
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THEInsultant
Guest
> Your right, I think Losing KOKF will be a bad deal. I think
> they're really one of the "founding fathers" of there format
> (0f course I dont know much about radio outside of OKC),
> LOL. But I do know this, They will be missed. Best of Luck
> to Rocky, Brandon, and the gang.
>
> Another station I think is doing super is 89.7 The House,
> Tony Weir and the gang's done great in formatting that
> station. When I was a baby DJ In Woodward I would
> occasionly tune in to 88.7 (although it was static 95% of
> the time). Back when it was Love 88.7 KLVV (now its Prais
> 88.7). I try to support both stations finanacailly (but I
> work in television so you know how that goes).
>
> Take care
> Jef
>
The guys at LLVV/The House are some of the nicest guys in broadcasting here in Oklahoma. Formatically, all they've done over the past few years is get much better, especially when they were able to get The House product on the air on that 100k stick and many of their translators, including OKC. I too wish them all the best, as they are truely in it for all the right reasons. I assure you any donations given to them ARE used in the best manner possible up there.
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> they're really one of the "founding fathers" of there format
> (0f course I dont know much about radio outside of OKC),
> LOL. But I do know this, They will be missed. Best of Luck
> to Rocky, Brandon, and the gang.
>
> Another station I think is doing super is 89.7 The House,
> Tony Weir and the gang's done great in formatting that
> station. When I was a baby DJ In Woodward I would
> occasionly tune in to 88.7 (although it was static 95% of
> the time). Back when it was Love 88.7 KLVV (now its Prais
> 88.7). I try to support both stations finanacailly (but I
> work in television so you know how that goes).
>
> Take care
> Jef
>
The guys at LLVV/The House are some of the nicest guys in broadcasting here in Oklahoma. Formatically, all they've done over the past few years is get much better, especially when they were able to get The House product on the air on that 100k stick and many of their translators, including OKC. I too wish them all the best, as they are truely in it for all the right reasons. I assure you any donations given to them ARE used in the best manner possible up there.
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