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Kost christmas will it start early like kez in phoenix?

The general consensus and complaints are that retailers and radio are pushing Christmas themed items and music too early. Opinions range from, jeez, let's get past Halloween first, let's enjoy Thanksgiving, then we'll worry about Christmas (one holiday at a time mentality.) It's almost like, the two holidays are being skipped all together. I realize it's the holiday season as a whole (Oct 31-Jan 1), but if that's the case, should we add Labor Day as the frontrunner to kick things off? It might get to that eventually.

Having spent about 40 of my Christmas seasons in Latin America, I found that when things were at their worst, folks took comfort in Christmas traditions.

It did not matter that there were no chilly night, no colorful Fall leaves, no pumpkins and, of course, no pumpkin pie. It was a season where family and friends all came together and took comfort in the intangible quality of the commonality of Christmas that bridged politics, income or any of the other things that today are used as weapons to separate us.

So if this year, like last, Christmas music is beginning in the second week of November, maybe it's because listeners like the mood and feel of the season more than the trappings and big-screen TVs and the like.

Whatever the reason, the facts show that you are wrong. I could pull up market after market where the Christmas station doubles or triples its share, and adds 50% to 75% more extra cume.

The general consensus, to use your term, is such that in many, many markets the Christmas station comes close to cuming half of the adult population. What more "consensus" than that can you have?
 
In other words, you have no actual data, just your own opinion. And you refuse to accept actual data because it doesn't agree with your opinion.

There is a Spanish expression that figuratively translates as "the worst kind of deafness comes from not wanting to hear".
 
I should add that all of the record labels officially release their new Christmas music at the end of October. They are doing that for a reason. The want it to be available for people to buy, stream, and enjoy in November.

This summer I actually noted the date - August 11. That was the day a whole boatload of ceramic pumpkins showed up in the front our local grocery store. I noted to Ms. Flipper, that this was exactly 81 days, or almost 12 weeks before Halloween and just how ridiculous that was. Who wants to buy one of those in early August? So out of curiosity, I kept an eye on the stock every time we went to the store and I noted that by the end of Labor Day Weekend, just three weeks later, over 1/2 of the original inventory had been sold and they were reloading with more.

So who knew what they were doing and what was or wasn't ridiculous? Clearly the store knew.
 
It did not matter that there were no chilly night, no colorful Fall leaves, no pumpkins and, of course, no pumpkin pie. It was a season where family and friends all came together and took comfort in the intangible quality of the commonality of Christmas that bridged politics, income or any of the other things that today are used as weapons to separate us.

Whatever the reason, the facts show that you are wrong.

Hey, I'm all for that....... But let's enjoy scaring the kids at Halloween, let's enjoy the fall colors, let's root for your team in the Fall Classic, let's feast on a golden brown turkey and the trimmings at Thanksgiving, let's watch the parades that morning and let's cherish and enjoy with family and friends Christmas music, well......during the Christmas season, Thanksgiving weekend thru December 25th. And I am not wrong. Everyone has their traditions and ways and the corporate conglomerates and their world of "facts" will not change me or anyone else that is set in their way of doing things this time of year. If people want to hear Christmas music 24/7 on November 10th, then to each their own. No problem.
 
This summer I actually noted the date - August 11. That was the day a whole boatload of ceramic pumpkins showed up in the front our local grocery store. I noted to Ms. Flipper, that this was exactly 81 days, or almost 12 weeks before Halloween and just how ridiculous that was. Who wants to buy one of those in early August?

And at full price too. In our store, we receive swimwear and shorts for the coming season......in February.
 
And I am not wrong. Everyone has their traditions and ways and the corporate conglomerates and their world of "facts" will not change me or anyone else that is set in their way of doing things this time of year.

It has nothing to do with "the corporate conglomerates." It's actual human behavior. Don't confuse the issue. No one's forcing you to change.
 
Hey david can u tell me the very first radio station that went all christmas and what year. I know kost started in 2001.
 
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Hey david can u tell me the very first radio station that went all christmas and what year. I know kost started in 2001.


KEZ in Phoenix in the 90's. Not sure the year.
 
Thanks for posting the article. The answer is 1990. Kez went all christmas. Wow thats a long time ago. Just think prior to that year the only time we heard all christmas music on commercial radio was christmas day for the most part.

I really enjoy the christmas music but i just wish they would play more variety but i get why they dont. People want the tried n true n if they dont get it they will change the station. Its ashame though collective soul has a great cover of blue christmas.
 
Thanks for posting the article. The answer is 1990. Kez went all christmas. Wow thats a long time ago. Just think prior to that year the only time we heard all christmas music on commercial radio was christmas day for the most part.

I really enjoy the christmas music but i just wish they would play more variety but i get why they dont. People want the tried n true n if they dont get it they will change the station. Its ashame though collective soul has a great cover of blue christmas.

K-Earth was really good at that as well. Played a song or two every hour leading to about noon on the 24th, then they would play solid Christmas music til 4 or 6pm Christmas Day, then go back to regular oldies. That was in the late 80's and 90's I believe. Not sure what they do today, since I no longer tune in to them regularly. There are hundreds of good Christmas songs and carols out there from the 50's and 60's, rat pack included, but yes, most stations stick to the top 50 with Mariah leading the list every year it seems.
 
K-Earth was really good at that as well. Played a song or two every hour leading to about noon on the 24th, then they would play solid Christmas music til 4 or 6pm Christmas Day, then go back to regular oldies. That was in the late 80's and 90's I believe. Not sure what they do today, since I no longer tune in to them regularly. There are hundreds of good Christmas songs and carols out there from the 50's and 60's, rat pack included, but yes, most stations stick to the top 50 with Mariah leading the list every year it seems.
Mariah who? (hahahaha)
 
I do remember in 2000 on 1260 AM when they were adult standard format they went all chrIstmas with adult standards. It was really cool.

There was an article this week about country stations only playing country Christmas songs, but that has not been the approach taken by KKGO. They play all genre, just like KOST. I have every reason to believe they'll do it again this year.
 
When a stations goes all christmas technically how is it done? Is the music already on the computer and they just switch over? What are the technical things that have to be done to go all christmas. I take it all the music is there already.
 
When a stations goes all christmas technically how is it done? Is the music already on the computer and they just switch over? What are the technical things that have to be done to go all christmas. I take it all the music is there already.

Depends on the station. Most of the iHeart stations run a national Christmas feed. But yes, all the music is there already.

No need to reinvent the Christmas wheel every year.
 
When a stations goes all christmas technically how is it done? Is the music already on the computer and they just switch over? What are the technical things that have to be done to go all christmas. I take it all the music is there already.

They likely have the clocks and the music in Selector, and all they do is assign the clocks to the clock grid starting on the day that they make the change. The clocks would have the right music categories, and the proper imaging all ready to go.

The clocks will call on songs that are already living on Zetta, ready for this year's use. Any revisions to the list were likely done earlier in the year, perhaps even right after last Christmas season.

It takes only a minute or two to switch clocks. Probably they will refresh some of the imaging and promos, but keep the same Zetta file numbers, so there is little to do to make it happen.
 
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