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Kost christmas will it start early like kez in phoenix?

Of course, many will never forget the snow falling and accumulating in the Lake Elsinore / Murrieta areas Dec 31, 2014. Very rare.

Glad you kids finally made up and hit a common ground on the subject of frozen tundra. Oldies, you mention you work in a store. Can you elaborate without getting to personal? Let's face it, most people are so busy that as listeners, they will not really hear that many hours of Christmas music, even if it starts two months before the 25th. But, it is amazing how people do stop and really tune in a few days before Christmas and on Christmas Day, the latter being when the greedy radio scumbags actually run few, if any, commercials and make nada. Oldies may have to suffer through weeks of songs for eight hours a day at work. That is really rare. Another thing to think about is that as people are busy and are stressed as the season comes around, 90 percent of the songs are so familiar that it becomes background noise. So, listeners, especially on female-friendly stations, actually call in wishing for another day of Christmas music even on the 26th, so they can "take it all in." Seriously. Mostly, we all gotta remember the agencies and advertisers are buying the healthy, proper demographic and that is what matters. And it works, despite all the debates. And yes, some stations, in some markets are close to a 10 share often and even get into the mid-teens as a nice way to finish out the year. I can name a station or two that fits that bill every year and it does not matter how many other stations try to compete. Snow in Tennessee kicks all your butts, by the way. So there. Don't need a snow blower like one person about to comment on this.
 
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SZorry, gang!

The winner this year of who starts Christmas music first goes to Oldie 104 in Youngstown, Ohio. Started it at 12:00 PM today.
 
Sorry, gang!

The winner this year of who starts Christmas music first goes to Oldie 104 in Youngstown, Ohio. Started it at 12:00 PM today.
 
Oldies, you mention you work in a store. Can you elaborate without getting to personal? Let's face it, most people are so busy that as listeners, they will not really hear that many hours of Christmas music, even if it starts two months before the 25th. But, it is amazing how people do stop and really tune in a few days before Christmas and on Christmas Day, the latter being when the greedy radio scumbags actually run few, if any, commercials and make nada. Oldies may have to suffer through weeks of songs for eight hours a day at work. That is really rare. Another thing to think about is that as people are busy and are stressed as the season comes around, 90 percent of the songs are so familiar that it becomes background noise.

Well then, there's the point. If so many people are busy and stressed as you mention and it is indeed background noise, then why do stations even bother playing Christmas music so dang early? If it is background noise, then no one is truly listening nor cares that early in the season for that type of music.

I do work in a store and yes our music begins on Black Friday (muzak type services). I tune it out, because of the dreadfully crappy versions that play and the fact that very, very few of my actual older favorites are even played on that station (Holiday Pop). If I do hear a favorite, such as the ones I mentioned posts ago, then I will tend to catch it and enjoy. But being in retail and busy, and probably ringing on a register, most songs tune out anyway regardless. That's why I have my own 120 song playlist at home which my family enjoys every year, which I play Christmas Eve and Christmas morning and it beats anything radio has to offer, commercial free.

As for the customers (and listeners), I believe the week of Christmas (18-25th) is when listenership is at its highest, regardless of what Christmas songs are played. Honestly, hearing "Silent Night" or "I'll Be Home For Christmas" on November 20th doesn't work for me. Hearing them after Thanksgiving and leading up to midnight Christmas Eve, becomes something special and very memorable. It's a beautiful time.

Call me a traditionalist, but that's how I grew up. To each is their own.
 
Ho-ho-ho if you say so :)
XM already has 13 holiday channels up and running, select the one you like and start listening.
ho-ho-ho

New York and Pennsylvania are two Northeastern places where it snows. A few Southern states might get snow as well.
 
Mostly in places where it's freezing. Plus with standard time back, it's getting dark earlier. Two reasons to start the ho-ho-ho

From 1966 to 2006, daylight saving time ended on the last Sunday in October. Would you have been for the start of ho-ho-ho as early as October 25th?
 
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