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KPRC programming question . . .

H

houstonradiogeek

. . .Since this weekend marks the 50th anniversary of NBC Radio's Monitor:

Did KPRC 950 carry the program and was it full-time or part-time?

*fires up the Beacon™ and awaits for the reply*

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> Kprc has a very long history. I would say they carried it. They still to this day carry their load and often very well. The book on KPRC would be a great one to read. do you know what KPRC stands for? I read somplace that they were H.P.D.'s Dispatcher they would dispatch patrols on the air. I guess that is where the newsman got his tip. Even then if the bleeds it lead!
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by lame boy on 06/12/05 01:02 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > Kprc has a very long history. I would say they carried
> it. They still to this day carry their load and often very
> well. The book on KPRC would be a great one to read. do you
> know what KPRC stands for?

When it was taken for the TV, it reportedly meant Kotton Port Rail Center

TV had the calls before 950AM....(TV2 was originally KLEE...became KRPC in 1950 and 950 came on the air in 1952)
 
> kprc came on in 1927 as kprc! This I read before
>
Hmmm cant trust your sources anymore and somehow that didnt seem right anyway when I typed it....I did some digging and see where KPRC was on in the 1930s...but on 920 and not 950....time for more digging! :)
 
> kprc came on in 1927 as kprc! This I read before
>

If I recall correctly KPRC radio first came on the air in 1925 on 1010 Khz, 1927 has it on 1020 Khz, 920 Khz in 1930, and NARBA sent them to 950 in 1941.

I've read that, besides standing for Kotton Port, Rail Center the 'PRC also stood for Post (as in Houston Post newspaper) Radio Company.

I also know that channel 2 was originally KLEE, starting in 1949 (Q: Who were the owners?) and, being the only TV game in town (until KUHT 8 and KGUL/KHOU 11 in 1953, and KTRK 13 in 1954) it had to carry shows from all 3 (4?) networks. Did you know KLEE's signal was "received" once in Great Britain?

In 1950 the owners of KPRC bought KLEE and changed the calls.

Still, my original question remains unanswered. . .

ANd now I have another one: is KTRK-TV 13 somehow related to KTRH radio?
Thanks in advance.

Reference:
http://members.aol.com/jeff560/1925am.html
http://members.aol.com/jeff560/1927am.html
http://members.aol.com/jeff560/1930am.html
http://members.aol.com/jeff560/1942am.html
http://members.aol.com/jeff99500/1949am.html
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/klee.htm
http://www.bvws.org.uk/405alive/history/eyes_of_texas.html<P ID="signature">______________
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Please take a look at my reply above, dear fellow poster.

> > kprc came on in 1927 as kprc! This I read before
> >
> Hmmm cant trust your sources anymore...I did some digging
> and see where KPRC was on in the 1930s...but on 920 and not
> 950....maybe it was in the 50s when it ended on 950? I am
> digging more into this..
> <P ID="signature">______________
I listen to what I like.
Ratings be Damned.</P>
 
KTRK and KTRH

I think when KTRK came on the air it had a group of owners - one being the chronicle. I think KTRH was also owned by the same group or at least one of the owners in that group.

KTRK
group of owners
Cap Cities
Disney

KPRC
Hobby family
Post Newsweek

KHOU
?
Corinthian
Belo
 
> This is all news to me...I never knew all this. Strange thought I knew everything about everything. Very interesting!
> >
>
 
> > kprc came on in 1927 as kprc! This I read before
> >
>
> If I recall correctly KPRC radio first came on the air in
> 1925 on 1010 Khz, 1927 has it on 1020 Khz, 920 Khz in 1930,
> and NARBA sent them to 950 in 1941.

If they came on in 25, it was middle or late...a FCC print of Jan 25 (http://earlyradiohistory.us/FCC2502.htm) does not show them on the air; it does show them in Jan of 26 though on 1010..(ironically, 950 WAS in use...by KFDM in Beaumont, now KLVI on 560 :)

> I've read that, besides standing for Kotton Port, Rail
> Center the 'PRC also stood for Post (as in Houston Post
> newspaper) Radio Company.

I found that too.....

> I also know that channel 2 was originally KLEE, starting in
> 1949 (Q: Who were the owners?) and, being the only TV game
> in town (until KUHT 8 and KGUL/KHOU 11 in 1953, and KTRK 13
> in 1954) it had to carry shows from all 3 (4?) networks. Did
> you know KLEE's signal was "received" once in Great Britain?

Nope...that is a hoax......G/B uses PAL and 625 line/positive modulation where as US uses 525 line/negative modulation(black screen is 100% power out).....the two were/are not able to receive the other's signals.....a good explanation I found seems to pretty much show that it was a hoax done by someone in England...a razor sharp copy of the KLEE test pattern was shown in a magazine earlier and could have been used in the hoax....

> ANd now I have another one: is KTRK-TV 13 somehow related to
> KTRH radio?

Hmmmm not that I remember.....KTRH and KLOL were AM and FM in early years...but I dont think KTRK was associated with KTRH....I cannot recall who owned 13 before Cap Cities did.....
 
> Did KPRC 950 carry the program and was it full-time or
> part-time?

KPRC carried Monitor on weekends in the '60s, I know that. When I was a kid here in Houston Gene Rayburn and Henry Morgan were funnier than most of the radio DJs at the time (except those on KILT and KNUZ) and their comments on the (AC with some rock) music they played were usually irreverent and witty, as opposed to hip and rock-and-roll savvy.
 
> Did
> > you know KLEE's signal was "received" once in Great
> Britain?
>
> Nope...that is a hoax......G/B uses PAL and 625
> line/positive modulation where as US uses 525 line/negative
> modulation(black screen is 100% power out).....the two
> were/are not able to receive the other's signals.....a good
> explanation I found seems to pretty much show that it was a
> hoax done by someone in England...a razor sharp copy of the
> KLEE test pattern was shown in a magazine earlier and could
> have been used in the hoax....

Hence the quotation marks I used before and after the word received :)

It had to be a Houston station the object of a transatlantic TV hoax :D

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/klee.htm
http://www.bvws.org.uk/405alive/history/eyes_of_texas.html<P ID="signature">______________
I listen to what I like.
Ratings be Damned.</P>
 
> Nope...that is a hoax......G/B uses PAL and 625
> line/positive modulation where as US uses 525 line/negative
> modulation(black screen is 100% power out).....the two
> were/are not able to receive the other's signals

Actually back then Britain used a 405 line system, positive modulation, and AM modulation for the audio signal. The lower frequency signals between 40 and 50 MHz actually made it to the Northeastern U.S. where DX enthusiasts used modified receivers to pick up the broadcast. Another difference in standards is that the British (and most of the Eastern hemisphere) uses a 50 fps frame rate, as opposed to the U.S. 60 fps, due to the differences in the AC power frequencies used.

Yes, the KLEE "reception" has long been known as a hoax in DX circles.
 
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