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Krok Talk

Shameru said:
What a surprise that Krok of Crap is going to be at the Tea Party event on Thursday... ::) Same time and place as J-D Wells' announcement. I went to the Tea Party anniversary meeting in Dallas and did a documentary on it; it was great.

Now that Krok will be there, I won't be surprised if we get pinned with being a bunch of idiotic, inarticulate, immature idiots. Sigh. Thanks a lot, KLIF.

I actually went and checked the Tea Party out this evening. This Krok guy is pathetic. Before he came on to speak, I was standing not far from the back stage area where the various speakers were gathered waiting their turn. Not long before his turn, Krok started jogging in place and punching his fist in the air - what you would expect to see from someone warming up before jumping into a boxing arena or something. He was clearly trying to work himself up into a hyperactive frenzy. And when he got on the stage, he jumped around all over the place and started screaming. What came out of his mouth was mostly empty slogans and "red meat" for the crowd. At any political gathering where you have people of a particular ideology - regardless what that ideology is - it doesn't really take too much brain power or imagination to come up with cheap one-liners that you know are guaranteed to draw a cheer from the crowd. That's pretty much all that came out of his very loud mouth.

A few minutes ago, while trying to describe just how awful he was in an email to an out-of-town friend, I looked to see if there was an actual example online I could link to. I discovered the following YouTube clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=rcRvqR-Cip4

Listen to the whole thing - it is absolutely breathtaking.

First off, Krok completely loses all control over the call and becomes utterly unglued. I can sort of understand why some average Joe might lose it in such a situation - the circumstances were clearly very emotionally charged and intense emotions can sometimes be contagious. But for a big city talk show host to allow his buttons to be pushed in such a way and to react in such a manner, especially towards grieving parents - to me that's a sign that the host is clearly not ready for the big city.

Second, Krok actually states that he believes the caller and his wife are under the control of Satan and that Satan is speaking through them! And, right after he says that, he has the nerve to accuse the caller of being irrational and out of control!

Somebody at KLIF made a very big mistake.
 
OH, MY.....

But I bet Krok said later, "Hey, it made for some good radio."

Morton Downey Jr, anyone? ::)
 
dismuke said:
I actually went and checked the Tea Party out this evening. This Krok guy is pathetic. Before he came on to speak, I was standing not far from the back stage area where the various speakers were gathered waiting their turn. Not long before his turn, Krok started jogging in place and punching his fist in the air - what you would expect to see from someone warming up before jumping into a boxing arena or something. He was clearly trying to work himself up into a hyperactive frenzy. And when he got on the stage, he jumped around all over the place and started screaming. What came out of his mouth was mostly empty slogans and "red meat" for the crowd. At any political gathering where you have people of a particular ideology - regardless what that ideology is - it doesn't really take too much brain power or imagination to come up with cheap one-liners that you know are guaranteed to draw a cheer from the crowd. That's pretty much all that came out of his very loud mouth.

A few minutes ago, while trying to describe just how awful he was in an email to an out-of-town friend, I looked to see if there was an actual example online I could link to. I discovered the following YouTube clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=rcRvqR-Cip4

Listen to the whole thing - it is absolutely breathtaking.

First off, Krok completely loses all control over the call and becomes utterly unglued. I can sort of understand why some average Joe might lose it in such a situation - the circumstances were clearly very emotionally charged and intense emotions can sometimes be contagious. But for a big city talk show host to allow his buttons to be pushed in such a way and to react in such a manner, especially towards grieving parents - to me that's a sign that the host is clearly not ready for the big city.

Second, Krok actually states that he believes the caller and his wife are under the control of Satan and that Satan is speaking through them! And, right after he says that, he has the nerve to accuse the caller of being irrational and out of control!

Somebody at KLIF made a very big mistake.

Yep. Cheap sloganeering and disapprobation of the shallowest sort. He's an annoying cheerleader, nothing more.
 
Albert19X said:
Yep. Cheap sloganeering and disapprobation of the shallowest sort. He's an annoying cheerleader, nothing more.

"Cheerleader" is a perfect term for it - and something that actually occurred to me when I saw him on that stage bouncing up and down in his juvenile looking shorts and KLIF tee shirt yelling at the top of his lungs. The only thing missing was the pom-poms.
 
I predict Mr. Krok will have the same overwhelming success on KLIF and the DFW radio market as the great Freddy Mertz did.
 
WOW...I'd nearly forgotten Mertz. That's been nearly 20 years ago now. Yeah, I'd put them all in the same category with Marty Griffin, Morton Downey Jr, Joe Pyne, maybe even Lou Staples? And let us not forget the top banana, Mark Levin. Take all these bags of hot air out of the mix, and viola! No more global warming. (Oh, that's right, global warming doesn't exist.)
 
I've heard this is probably urban legend...but the story goes that Frank Zappa was a guest on Joe Pyne's show. Joe had lost part of his left leg to some form of cancer a few years earlier. Pyne insulted Zappa by saying, "So I guess your long hair makes you a woman." Zappa allegedly replied, "So I guess your wooden leg makes you a table."

If its true, I'll soon be forming a religion around Zappa.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
OH, MY.....

But I bet Krok said later, "Hey, it made for some good radio."

Morton Downey Jr, anyone? ::)

Morton Downey Jr. strikes me as being a good comparison.

But to Downey Jr.'s credit, despite whatever one can legitimately say about him, I seriously doubt that he would have ever actually accused a caller as having been taken over by and speaking on behalf of Satan. That's beyond nutty and outrageous - that's just downright spooky.

And observe that, after making an initial splash due to his loud and obnoxious behavior on both television and his Dallas based national radio program, Downey Jr., quickly faded away on both occasions. Indeed, if your claim to fame is based on nothing more than outrageous and obnoxious behavior, it is going to eventually catch up with you. Such behavior might have a certain appeal to a certain segment of the population. But, even amongst that population, it grows old rather quickly in the same way that a joke grows old quickly after it has been heard more than a few times. To maintain your fame and relevance, you are going to be under constant pressure to top yourself. But there is always a limit to how far one can push the envelope without either getting arrested or disgusting even your hard core supporters. Downey Jr. is actually a classic example of this - as evidenced by the skin head attack on him that he alleged set up in which a swastika was painted on his face.

You mention Mark Levin. It is certainly true that he is extremely brusk and even rude to callers at times and engages in gratuitous name calling. But he is able to get away with such things to a large degree because, despite such antics, his program has actual content. Despite his behavior, Levin is very intelligent, very well-read and makes substantive points which go far beyond empty outrage and the mere regurgitation of shopworn, stereotypical right-wing "red meat" slogans. Levin regularly talks - sometimes in depth - about ideas and about serious thinkers such as Aristotle, Hayek, John Locke, Ludwig von Mises, etc. I wonder how many of those thinkers, if any at all, Krock has even heard of, let alone studied or actually read.

I personally found Levin's tactics to be mildly amusing for about a week and then they became increasingly grating. But I, nevertheless, endure them and continue to tune in whenever I am driving around during his program because of the substantive points he does make. Sometimes I think he is even quite eloquent and right on target with his points - and other times I have profound disagreements with him. I am "conservative" on economic issues in that I am a staunch free market capitalist - but I am quite "liberal" on a number of so-called "social issues." For that reason, pretty much any "conservative" talk show host is going to be a mixed bag for me in terms of ideology. I would actually assert that Levin's success is not because of his antics but rather in spite of them. My guess is they actually limit his appeal and turn off people who might otherwise be open to a lot of what he has to say - which I think is a shame because he does make many good points on his program at times. If there was nothing else to his show besides the name calling, his brusque treatment of callers and his constantly running down other, usually unnamed, conservative talk show hosts (which I think makes him appear to be petty) I suspect this program would have faded away a long time ago.

By contrast, with Downey, when I listened to his DFW-based radio program, I found very little in terms of ongoing substance. He struck me as little more than a crude opportunistic rabble rouser who decided to target a certain right-of-center demographic. In fact, I often found myself wondering if the guy actually was a "conservative" or even had any sort of clear consistent ideology - or if he just cynically took positions and sides on issues he thought would appeal to the particular audience he had targeted.

As for Krok, here is what I think is very predictable and what we can all watch for: Watch for Krock to be on the constant prowl for some sort of local incident or issue - any incident or issue no matter how trivial - that the local news media and other talk show hosts have mostly overlooked that he can latch himself onto and try to blow up and generate enough heat that other media outlets might be tempted to cover it. Watch for Krock to be on the constant prowl to pick a fight with someone - anyone - that he thinks will generate enough heat and can be blown up to the degree it gets press coverage. Watch for him to try and get members of his audience to participate in generating such "heat." I guarantee you that, on a daily basis, Krok is scouring local media searching for any sort idiotic remark or action on the part of a local politician, institution or liberal activist group that he blow up into a bigger deal.

Such potential targets and media outlets would be wise to ignore such bait and not respond to or get outraged by it - because their taking such bait is what his entire future in this market hinges upon. He is on an also-ran station with low ratings - and a certain percentage of the limited number of people who did listen to his station during his time slot have been angered and alienated by the canning of his predecessor and will move to other stations. So he is going to have to do SOMETHING to get noticed if he is to actually improve ratings for that time slot and for the station - and my guess is that KLIF does not have a lot of the money necessary to generate such notice through conventional promotions and advertising buys.

My guess is that bringing in Krok is a desperation move on the part of KLIF. My guess is he was hired because is obnoxious and loud and because he will deliberately try and drum up controversy and free publicity which will temporarily cause people to tune into the station who otherwise wouldn't. My theory is that KLIF is hoping that some of those people who tune in become aware of the station and that it might have a positive impact on ratings for other programs as well. My guess is KLIF is fully prepared for Krok to implode and perhaps even for being forced to fire him - that, too, will generate publicity for the station. And if it doesn't come to that, his tactics will eventually grow old to listeners. And, above all, his potential targets and the local media will come to see him for what he is and ignore him making it increasingly difficult for him to generate controversy and heat. At that point, assuming KLIF's stratgegy and/or KLIF's talk format itself manages to survive that long, they will quietly can him. Lots of talk show hosts attempt, to some degree, to generate "heat" and most know how to make controversy work to their advantage. But, from what I have observed so far, that is all Krok is good for and there is precious little of the qualities that give the more successful hosts their long-term staying power.

And, my guess is that, since so many people have already tried the same thing before, there is a good chance that KLIF's management will end up being disappointed and have little to show for it than their having to put up with a hyperactive employee who apparently believes that some callers are possessed by Satan.
 
??? ??? croc show make over. Missing: 1) the ya's and whup's 2) endless screaming 3) the an's & it's held too a min.... YOU R WELCOME with all the love fixerupguy ??? ???
 
Are you for real? They actually made him tone it down on today's program? If so, that came pretty quickly - and I wonder how much of it might have had something to do with his predecessor doing his premier broadcast opposite him on a rival station today. Presumably KLIF's "new direction" had counted on retaining at least a decent percentage of its listeners in that time slot.
 
So should we just patiently wait for this nutjob Krok to get tossed out of Dallas? I wonder if his advertisers like StarPower, McShan Floriist, Texaslending.com, Statewide Remodeling, ATT etc agree with and appreciate Chris Krok's bigoted, bilious, homophobic, hate-mongering spewing?

The good people of Macon, GA were real clear about how they felt about this radio 'talent': http://www.macon-bibb.com/Krok-Pot.htm

Here's some opinions from Macon:

I would like to thank Al Tillman, Lindsay Holliday, Elaine Lucas and many others for joining together to get Chris Krok removed from the airways of Macon. His hate-filled racist, homophobic slurs were a scourge on our city and county. Cumulus moves him around like the Catholic Church moves child molesting priests.

It is a great day for Macon that he is gone! I’m sure his stint in Dallas will be short lived as rational people who support freedom and oppose racism and homophobia will boycott him and cause him to lose ratings. I said the spas will be in Macon long after Krok is gone. That was gospel.

— David Corr
http://www.macon.com/2010/03/31/1077937/this-is-viewpoints-for-wednesday.html

And some more web mentions:

http://leftchattering.blogspot.com/2009/03/teabagger-chris-krok-helps-define.html

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200808080008

http://www.shotinthedark.info/archives/006988.html

http://atlnews.blogspot.com/2007/04/chris-krok-wsb-radio-is-both-moron-and.html

http://www.macon.com/2010/03/27/1074179/krok-leaving-macon-for-texas-radio.html

http://adminworm.blogspot.com/2006/01/krok-talk-and-other-pressing-matters.html
 
joiseyguy said:
So should we just patiently wait for this nutjob Krok to get tossed out of Dallas?

Yes, that is what you should do. And there is one more thing to do while you are patiently waiting and which will be far more effective in terms of bringing his days on Metroplex radio to an end sooner: ignore him and switch your dial to another channel.

Don't you realize what you are proposing is exactly the sort of thing that Krok thrives on? Your reaction is just what KLIF was counting on when they brought Krok to the market in the first place. Get your little boycott organized enough and Krok will probably link to it on his website and gleefully and endlessly talk about it on his program. KLIF might even pull a few news media connection strings to get a write up about the boycott in the local papers. KLIF wants and needs attention to help boost ratings - and here you go proposing to give it to them.

And do you think the advertisers are going to be particularly intimidated by your boycott? They knew full well that KLIF carries conservative talk radio programing before they purchased ads on the station. And they also know that there is a segment of the population whose knee jerk reaction towards anybody and any host whose politics is anywhere to the right of Dan Rather is to brand them as "homophobic, sexist, racist, etc., etc., etc." They know full well that they might lose a small amount of business from sponsoring any controversial talk program - and since, as business people, they care more about their customers' wallets than they do about their customers' politics, they are more than happy to sponsor a radio program that might drive away a small portion of their business if it means bringing in a greater amount of new business.

So you don't agree with Krock. So what? Don't listen to him. In a free country, people and media outlets get to advocate ideas that others find distasteful and offensive. And there are probably plenty of people in this world who find YOUR particular ideas to be distasteful and offensive as well. But should that stop you from peacefully expressing them to a willing audience in an appropriate venue that voluntarily chooses to give them a hearing? It is called free speech - and, quite frankly, your posting and proposed intimidation tactics makes you sound like a member of the Brown Shirts.

Personally, based on his appearance at the Tea Party, the YouTube clip I linked to, his website and the very limited time I spent checking out his KLIF program, I think Krok is a buffoon and an embarrassment to talk radio. For that reason, I don't plan to listen to his program. If you don't like him, do the same and leave it at that. Trust me, that is a FAR more potent weapon against both Krok and KLIF than any sort of emotionalistic boycott which is more likely to backfire and actually help Krok more than hurt him.
 
Dismuke is right. Best thing to do is ignore and change the station. In the end it will be ratings that will end this Krok. KLIF's afternoon ratings were in the toilet before...I imagine after the next book they will be put on life support. My heart goes out to Wells' old producer. Imagine having to sit at a board listening to that for three solid hours every day. Yeesh.
 
I dont see how this nitwit is on the air. I was with klif through the ankarlo / knapp fiasco, bringing in bolton from san antonio, I actually liked JD, didnt always agree with him, but he made it interesting. I'm curious as it seems Ksky he has to taken a ton of his audience with him. I wonder when the advertisers will move too. How far down the pole is Kskys ratings?
 
rschultz2005 said:
Dismuke is right. Best thing to do is ignore and change the station.
There are some fine talk shows on KSKY between 4 & 7pm. :)
 
dfaulkner said:
rschultz2005 said:
Dismuke is right. Best thing to do is ignore and change the station.
There are some fine talk shows on KSKY between 4 & 7pm. :)
I should add that I agree with the others about just ignoring Krok. His audience will drift away (If it hasn't already.) Once he has no listeners, he'll have no job....
 
I admit that I listened to him once, alright twice, for a total duration of less than five minutes. I consider myself patient and open-minded, but it's very telling that in that short time, I heard all I could stand. I'll have no problem at all ignoring this bozo. The only thing left for me on 570 is Coast to Coast, night-owl that I am; otherwise the preset would be history.
 
jd said:
The only thing left for me on 570 is Coast to Coast, night-owl that I am; otherwise the preset would be history.

Phil Hendrie is on KFXR 1190 at midnight now... What's a KLIF?
 
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