Kroq billing

[TheBigA]

And in most households that can afford a subscription, each member has their own car today.

About 25% of their subscribers have a family plan that allows them to add another car for a discounted rate.

 

[davideduardo]

About 25% of their subscribers have a family plan that allows them to add another car for a discounted rate.

And still, they are listening on separate radios and separate cars. But it counts as one subscription, and yet there may be more than one simultaneous user.

 

[BLA]

Radios​

Back before internet and satellite radio, there was only AM and FM, and people in the 1960s and 1970’s, for example, listened to it on devices made just for that.

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

Satellite radio launched thirty years ago and still has only 30-35 million subscribers. (

Sirius launched 19 years ago and XM launched 20 years ago.

 

[ChannelFlipper]

Sirius launched 19 years ago and XM launched 20 years ago.

And still, they are listening on separate radios and separate cars. But it counts as one subscription, and yet there may be more than one simultaneous user.

I have multiple subscriptions for 2 cars and 2 homes. How many listeners is that?

 

[CTListener]

Sirius launched 19 years ago and XM launched 20 years ago.

Correct, of course. Major brain fart there.

 

[CTListener]

I have multiple subscriptions for 2 cars and 2 homes. How many listeners is that?

If you're the only person who ever listens to those four radios? One. How could it be anything else? But there's no way SiriusXM can know that, so it will report the number as 4 to the SEC.

 

[MarkW]

The cars on dealer lots are not paying users. In fact, with the "free trial" period of up to a full year, there are quite a few million vehicles with "active" but not "paying" subscriptions. In fact, the entire car sales chain makes money from Sirius/XM. Manufacturers get a cut of the subscriptions in their cars, and some is (or was if that has changed) passed on to the dealer.

Years ago, on the sticker of the Ford vehicle I leased, I noticed a $295.00 (or thereabouts) line item charge for a so-called one year trial of Sirius Satellite Radio.

I would love to know if that was a fake charge Ford tacked on (and kept entirely for themselves) or if some or most of those monies were remitted to Sirius XM.

 

[TomásEstefan]

I think satellite radio's numbers are based on paying to listen. Most just have it in their head it should all be free.

And it should be.

 

[TomásEstefan]

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Radios​

Back before internet and satellite radio, there was only AM and FM, and people in the 1960s and 1970’s, for example, listened to it on devices made just for that.

Imagine that...there are in fact a significant number of people in the younger than 50 age group- that cannot tell you what radio is and can't recall ever having listened to it.

 

[ChannelFlipper]

Imagine that...there are in fact a significant number of people in the younger than 50 age group- that cannot tell you what radio is and can't recall ever having listened to it.

Even worse, they hold management positions and various levers of power in our society. They also consider it to be your responsibility to fit in their world today, not their responsibility to remember what our world was before.

 

[TomásEstefan]

Even worse, they hold management positions and various levers of power in our society. They also consider it to be your responsibility to fit in their world today, not their responsibility to remember what our world was before.

Those who don't remember that past are condemned to...

 

[Sean Cocca]

Imagine that...there are in fact a significant number of people in the younger than 50 age group- that cannot tell you what radio is and can't recall ever having listened to it.

Baloney. You don't give them enough credit.