KRTH 2013 Labor Day Countdown

[surfdude]

This thread is the definition of insanity! The repetition about repetition is getting old.

Radio station's do not program to people with two or three THOUSAND posts on a radio board.

Rewind and oldies 76 are living in fantasyland.

Michael and David, quit feeding the trolls!

 

[michael hagerty]

This thread is the definition of insanity! The repetition about repetition is getting old.

Radio station's do not program to people with two or three THOUSAND posts on a radio board.

Rewind and oldies 76 are living in fantasyland.

Michael and David, quit feeding the trolls!

I just keep thinking that I'm not phrasing it right or something....

 

[michael hagerty]

Mister oldies76, I'm not a typical listener. In fact I almost never listen to KRTH anymore. I can't get excited about hearing songs I've already heard thousands of times. Most of the songs on KRTH are songs I got sick of hearing when they were originally on the charts and being played several times a day.

Michael, I "hammer" on Brown Eyed Girl because I'm more sick of that song than any other song in the history of recorded music. If you ever go to the '60s discussions a certain satellite radio fan site, you'll see that there are many others who hate that song as much as I do.

As for KSUR's short-lived 1950s-60s oldies format, Saul Levine seldom sticks with any format on 1260 for very long; He's tried AC, MOR, talk, news, jazz, country, show tunes, standards, classical and all-Beatles as well as the "Retro" and "Shuffle" formats. I wish he had stayed with the '50s-60s oldies format---today he'd have no competition at all. By the way, KSUR gave very little airplay to the songs that were being played to death on KRTH. I could listen all day and not hear Happy Together or Pretty Woman or Brown Eyed Girl even once.

Then you're not a good fit for KRTH. You're also outside the demo, so that shouldn't be a surprise.

That also means that there's zero point in bitching about it, because it's not going to....it can't and be a success where it needs to be....cater to you.

Steve, I think you're one of those people who, if you didn't hear "Brown Eyed Girl" for five years and it suddenly came on, would scream "They're playing that AGAIN?" and hit the button. There's nothing anybody can do about that.

 

[Thomps2525]

Michael---your last paragraph is accurate. I would scream. And surfdude dares to call me "Troll"? That's Mister Troll to you, fella! If radio wasn't so boring and repetitious and predictable, I probably wouldn't be spending so much time on message boards instead. "Fantasyland"? Nope---I just remember how exciting radio used to be. But you're right in saying that I've done too much complaining,,,and it's all been to no avail. KRTH will likely continue to be boring and repetitious and predictable.

Whoops---was I just complaining again?

 

[michael hagerty]

Michael---your last paragraph is accurate. I would scream. And surfdude dares to call me "Troll"? That's Mister Troll to you, fella! If radio wasn't so boring and repetitious and predictable, I probably wouldn't be spending so much time on message boards instead. "Fantasyland"? Nope---I just remember how exciting radio used to be. But you're right in saying that I've done too much complaining,,,and it's all been to no avail. KRTH will likely continue to be boring and repetitious and predictable.

Just not to the majority of their regular listeners.

Whoops---was I just complaining again?

Yeah, a little....

 

[Thomps2525]

Okay, I can take a hint. Actually, some of the comments here went way beyond "hints." But I knowI've made the same complaints several times and I know when to gracefully withdraw from a discussion. It's okay---I can always keep adding to the "Things Which Annoy You" thread.

http://radiodiscussions.com/smf/index.php?topic=206592.0

 

[oldies76]

This thread is the definition of insanity! The repetition about repetition is getting old.

Radio station's do not program to people with two or three THOUSAND posts on a radio board.

Rewind and oldies 76 are living in fantasyland.

Michael and David, quit feeding the trolls!

A tad disrespectful aren't you?? Trolls?? It's not fantasyland, many small market and AM's are living it up already, where have you been boy?

 

[oldies76]

And surfdude dares to call me "Troll"?

He's the same guy who did something similiar back a few years ago when myself, and others (you weren't on board yet, I don't believe) were discussing similiar issues. Screen names stick when insults fly.

It might be somwhat of a fantasy in downtown L.A., but not in Yucca Valley!

 

[AM FM listener]

And surfdude dares to call me "Troll"? That's Mister Troll to you, fella!

That's funny.

 

[davideduardo]

It might be somwhat of a fantasy in downtown L.A., but not in Yucca Valley!

The "Yucca Valley" classic hits station is really a license that moved into a corner of the Palm Springs market some years ago and covers 360,000 persons in the 60 dbu signal.

The town of Yucca Valley is quite small, and could not sustain a station on its own. The only AM is a repeater / simulcast of a Coachella Valley station and the FM is owned and operated by a Palm Springs company out of offices in... Palm Springs.

While it is marginal in the East Valley, it's a good signal in the West Valley area.

So much for the small market classic hits theory.

 

[oldies76]

Let's just try to get back to the topic at hand guys....the countdown begins in T-9 days!!
Should be great, if it's all listener votes!

 

[michael hagerty]

Let's just try to get back to the topic at hand guys....the countdown begins in T-9 days!!
Should be great, if it's all listener votes!

Oldies:

I feel I need to say this.

If you don't like the list, it won't necessarily mean it wasn't listener votes, legitimately counted. KRTH's playlist is made up of records most of the target audience shares a positive feeling about. Those songs will get votes, and since KRTH plays 850 songs (give or take) and there's only room for 500 on the list, the likeliest outcome is that the list will be very familiar, and the most familiar songs will rank highest.

 

[oldies76]

Let's just try to get back to the topic at hand guys....the countdown begins in T-9 days!!
Should be great, if it's all listener votes!

Oldies:

I feel I need to say this.

If you don't like the list, it won't necessarily mean it wasn't listener votes, legitimately counted. KRTH's playlist is made up of records most of the target audience shares a positive feeling about. Those songs will get votes, and since KRTH plays 850 songs (give or take) and there's only room for 500 on the list, the likeliest outcome is that the list will be very familiar, and the most familiar songs will rank highest.

I'll like the list no matter the outcome, but just hoping for a different outcome on the countdown, since maybe it'll attract some song titles that have not been heard in a long while, based on the method that's being used this year. Thanks

 

[oldies76]

The "Yucca Valley" classic hits station is really a license that moved into a corner of the Palm Springs market some years ago and covers 360,000 persons in the 60 dbu signal.

The town of Yucca Valley is quite small, and could not sustain a station on its own. The only AM is a repeater / simulcast of a Coachella Valley station and the FM is owned and operated by a Palm Springs company out of offices in... Palm Springs.

While it is marginal in the East Valley, it's a good signal in the West Valley area.

So much for the small market classic hits theory.

Well you got the Little San Bernardino Mtns. (Joshua Tree Monument) between Palm Springs and Yucca Valley probably interfering with a low power signal. Otherwise maybe some radio genius could pop up a small licensed basement station and broadcast some classics, on a low wattage transmitter out there along highway 62. Btw, can KRTH or KOLA be picked up in Yucca Valley, I don't recall.

 

[davideduardo]

Well you got the Little San Bernardino Mtns. (Joshua Tree Monument) between Palm Springs and Yucca Valley probably interfering with a low power signal.

The transmitter is on one of the hilltops / mountain summits that is equidistant between Desert Hot Springs and Yucca Valley. It puts a theoretical 70 dbu over Palm Springs, DHS, Rancho Mirage and Cat City. It gets a 60 all the way to the La Quinta / Indio limits without the booster, and you add 2.7 kw booster in Palm Springs, and you have a pretty good local signal... especially when you consider that several of the top rated stations in the market are under 1 kw.

It's operated as a Palm Springs station by a Palm Springs group. While it gets some Victor Valley ratings, it does not appear to market or sell there.

Btw, can KRTH or KOLA be picked up in Yucca Valley, I don't recall.

KOLA has a car-radio-possible signal in some of the Coachella Valley (mostly along the 10, but blocked behind San Jacinto, and is spotty along the 62 (blocked by San Gorgonio and that range). KRTH can occasionally come in on a good car radio along the 10 in the West Valley. It is not particularly useful anywhere else, with KPSI at 100.5 right over the market with 25 kw ERP.

 

[kenb]

Listen for my votes... SHE LOVES YOU/Beatles, RUNAWAY/Del Shannon & SINCE I DON'T HAVE YOU/Skyliners... Yeah, I know it is not the current featured format on LIVE KRTH*101. But, that is my vote, perhaps they will be at the bottom 498, 499, 500. One can dream!

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Well, let's just see what you'd have heard if you listened from 3:30 to 3:50 every weekday so far in August....

Well I know I'll lose all of you (probably) but here's a small sampling of what one of my favorite OTA radio stations (not in the LA market; not even in CA) played recently on a few weekdays in August between 3:30 and 3:50 pm:

Wild Child -Brett Dennen
Hey You-Pink Floyd
Ship of Fools-World Party
Last Nite-The Strokes
Angel of Harlem-U2
Supersoaker-Kings of Leon
King and Lionheart-Of Monsters and Men
All Come True-World Party
Gold On the Ceiling-The Black Keys
Are You Gonna Be My Girl-Jet
Follow My Feet-The Unlikely Candidates
Walk On the Wild Side-Lou Reed
Recovery-Frank Turner
Hero-Family of the Year
Round Here-Counting Crows
The Man Who Wants You-Amos Lee
Blue Letter-Fleetwood Mac
Charlie Brown-Coldplay

nothing like the same ole same ole heard on "Heard That Been There Done That" radio

 

[michael hagerty]

Listen for my votes... SHE LOVES YOU/Beatles, RUNAWAY/Del Shannon & SINCE I DON'T HAVE YOU/Skyliners... Yeah, I know it is not the current featured format on LIVE KRTH*101. But, that is my vote, perhaps they will be at the bottom 498, 499, 500. One can dream!

All you need is several thousand people voting with you.

 

[michael hagerty]

Well, let's just see what you'd have heard if you listened from 3:30 to 3:50 every weekday so far in August....

Well I know I'll lose all of you (probably) but here's a small sampling of what one of my favorite OTA radio stations (not in the LA market; not even in CA) played recently on a few weekdays in August between 3:30 and 3:50 pm:

Wild Child -Brett Dennen
Hey You-Pink Floyd
Ship of Fools-World Party
Last Nite-The Strokes
Angel of Harlem-U2
Supersoaker-Kings of Leon
King and Lionheart-Of Monsters and Men
All Come True-World Party
Gold On the Ceiling-The Black Keys
Are You Gonna Be My Girl-Jet
Follow My Feet-The Unlikely Candidates
Walk On the Wild Side-Lou Reed
Recovery-Frank Turner
Hero-Family of the Year
Round Here-Counting Crows
The Man Who Wants You-Amos Lee
Blue Letter-Fleetwood Mac
Charlie Brown-Coldplay

nothing like the same ole same ole heard on "Heard That Been There Done That" radio

I'd give that a pushbutton! What station and where?

 

[SuperRadioFan]

They'd get my vote if I was a listener! Today they're all "OH WOW!" songs... What a shame. And the true stereo version of "Runaway" is really an OH WOW track rarely or never played by any station that used to be in that genre of format