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KRTH 2013 Labor Day Countdown

LARadioRewind said:
I saw only two pre-1964 songs on the 'CBS list, Do You Love Me and Stand By Me. All the aforementioned artists that were missing from the KRTH countdown are also missing from the 'CBS countdown. Now I'm really skeptical that these lists are accurate. All the Elvis Presley fans have died? Nobody likes any songs from the 1950s, the early '60s, the '90s or 2000s? Nobody likes instrumentals? Come on!
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I always have to remind myself that it's never about what I like, or what any one listener likes. If you saw my iPod playlist of approximately 1200 songs, you would see a combination of no more than a dozen Classic Hits that run on KRTH or any other CH station, a lot more songs from popular rock and pop artists that never hit the Top 10 (peaked lower on the Top 40 or never made it past "Hitbound" status), many album cuts, some jazz, and a few standards by the likes of Frank Sinatra, Diana Krall, and Harry Connick Jr. Even a few country songs, though the genre generally turns me off.

If you're a Program Director and want to program a station with my playlist, please contact me (;).

Honey by Bobby Goldsboro, and Seasons in the Sun (Terry Jacks were huge hits, but you'll never hear them on a Classic Hits station because:

a. They would cause tune-out to a high degree
b. They are both awful.
 
LKellerIII said:
Honey by Bobby Goldsboro, and Seasons in the Sun (Terry Jacks were huge hits, but you'll never hear them on a Classic Hits station because:

a. They would cause tune-out to a high degree
b. They are both awful.
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They were huge hits because the listeners of the day liked them, including me. Yes they were sappy and not the generally upbeat music most stations want to run but they were popular for a reason and not putting them in a retrospective rotation is akin to rewriting history.

If you want to turn me off then please include Sinatra, Connick Jr., and Krall. You would have to measure the time it takes me to hit the pre-set in micro-seconds.
 
Honey inspired a hilarious skit on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. Tommy was offering tours of the "Honey house" where she lived and a visit to the garden where Honey tripped and fell, and he was selling live trees that resembled the one that Honey planted when it was "just a twig." So you see?---the song had some value.
 
landtuna said:


They were huge hits because the listeners of the day liked them, including me. Yes they were sappy and not the generally upbeat music most stations want to run but they were popular for a reason and not putting them in a retrospective rotation is akin to rewriting history.
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Yes, but the day was 40-45 years ago. And a Classic Hits radio station isn't a museum, it's a format for today's 40-something adults based on songs they like now, not what their parents liked then.
 
LARadioRewind said:
Could it be that the fans of 1960s music have (a) gotten tired of KRTH playing the same songs over and over and over, (b) quit listening to KRTH when 1980s songs were added to the playlist, (c) switched their listening to other stations, (d) started to die off, or (e) just didn't bother to vote this year...or is there some other reason that would explain the dearth of '60s songs relative to previous countdowns? The decision by KOLA to drop all '60s hits is starting to look very wise. The decade is dead---the '70s are what's happenin' now. It's time to break out the bell-bottoms and disco balls and Betamax VCRs, go streaking, call our good buddies on our CB radio, listen to our Saturday Night Fever album, and put our pet rocks and Farrah Fawcett-Majors posters back on display!
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Don't forget the 8-track tapes!
 
Okay, so one person doesn't like Terry Jacks and another doesn't like Harry Connick Jr. I understand that radio stations have to play only those songs that appeal to the greatest number of listeners...but why does KRTH continue to play so many songs that so many of us are sick of and we change the channel as soon as we hear the first few notes? Or do those infamous "auditorium tests" never include anyone who now hates Happy Together, Oh Pretty Woman, My Girl, Brown Eyed Girl, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling and Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye?
 
Of course there are people in those tests that hate those songs. That's part of why they don't get the kind of play they used to (as we've noted over and over). But the majority of the people in those tests don't view those songs in a negative light.
 
In that case, I'd like to volunteer to take part in the next auditorium test...and I'd like to bring a few friends. You'll never hear Brown Eyed Girl again! :D By the way, does anyone have a list of KRTH's most-played songs? And will this year's Top 500 have any effect on what songs are played and how frequently?
 
michael hagerty said:
Yes, but the day was 40-45 years ago. And a Classic Hits radio station isn't a museum, it's a format for today's 40-something adults based on songs they like now, not what their parents liked then.
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I thought we were discussing a retrospective playlist and not something a CH station would run daily. If so, I stand by my ascertain that songs that were popular "in the day" should be included as people who are interested in that time period would want to hear what was popular.

If we are not discussing a retrospective then I agree with your comment although it has been my personal experience that even 20-somethings today like and appreciate a goodly number of the Oldies.
 
landtuna said:


I thought we were discussing a retrospective playlist and not something a CH station would run daily. If so, I stand by my ascertain that songs that were popular "in the day" should be included as people who are interested in that time period would want to hear what was popular.

If we are not discussing a retrospective then I agree with your comment although it has been my personal experience that even 20-somethings today like and appreciate a goodly number of the Oldies.
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Even in a retrospective, Landtuna, they're counting down a list of what's popular with their target audience today in most cases. There are exceptions (like WOGL's "every number one ever" thing)...but for the most part, it's what today's 40 year old likes from 30-40 years ago.
 
I didn't see Hey Jude on KRTH's Top 500. So nobody likes that song anymore? It almost always was in the top ten. And there were only six Beatles song on the list? So very few people still like the Beatles? On the WCBS-FM Top 500, Hey Jude was number one. But on both lists, there were only two pre-1964 songs and nothing past 1989. Nobody likes Elvis's 1950s-60s hits anymore? Sorry, Mister landtuna, but Top 500 lists are obviously not "retrospective"---they apparently include only the songs that the program director thinks listeners will still want to hear and not all the songs that the listeners actually voted for.
 
Michael, I know you think I'm obsessed with Brown Eyed Girl but so are many others. When we listen to KRTH, we change the station as soon as we hear that song start. If KRTH were to quit playing it, do you honestly think anyone would decide, "KRTH no longer plays Brown Eyed Girl and I like that song so I'm never going to listen to KRTH again"? Remember the old adage that a station is hurt by what they do play, not by what they don't play. When there are more people who hate a song than there are who like it, it's time to drop it from the playlist. I'm still waiting to hear from any people who aren't sick of Brown Eyed Girl---I'm sure there are two or three.....maybe.
 
michael hagerty said:
...but for the most part, it's what today's 40 year old likes from 30-40 years ago.
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30-40 years ago today's 40-year old was between 0-10 years old. With all due respect I am not interested in what someone less than 10 years old wants to hear. ;)
 
So it's your fault that no Justin Bieber or OneDirection songs made the Top 500! :)
 
LARadioRewind said:
I didn't see Hey Jude on KRTH's Top 500. So nobody likes that song anymore? It almost always was in the top ten. And there were only six Beatles song on the list? So very few people still like the Beatles? On the WCBS-FM Top 500, Hey Jude was number one. But on both lists, there were only two pre-1964 songs and nothing past 1989. Nobody likes Elvis's 1950s-60s hits anymore? Sorry, Mister landtuna, but Top 500 lists are obviously not "retrospective"---they apparently include only the songs that the program director thinks listeners will still want to hear and not all the songs that the listeners actually voted for.
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Steve:

Let's for a moment assume the KRTH countdown is what it said it was...an online vote.

1. It's not scientific.
2. It doesn't prove "nobody likes" any song.

They asked people to list their three favorite songs of all time. With a cume of 2 million and a participation rate of 1%, that's 20,000 people voting. All it means is that "Hey Jude" didn't make it onto as many people's top three as the Four Tops' "Ain't No Woman (Like The One I Got)". It may have been by as little as one person.
 
landtuna said:


30-40 years ago today's 40-year old was between 0-10 years old. With all due respect I am not interested in what someone less than 10 years old wants to hear. ;)
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That's not what you're hearing. You're hearing what grownups who are now 40 want to hear now. And very little of it is tied to childhood memory.
 
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