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KRVN 880

KRVN was one of my first stations from east of the Rockies from here in El Cajon / La Mesa, CA (I state both places because although my postal address is El Cajon, I'm actually a little closer to La Mesa, in fact just a few houses down the street and you're in the La Mesa zip code area), which is near San Diego, CA. I haven't checked that frequency recently, but I think I remember hearing hints of KRVN within the last month or so, mixing with the usual mexican signals, including one of which is fairly strong some nights.
 
KRVN has been a big signal on 880 since they moved to that frequency in 1972. Very gettable in California, but it's a bigger accomplishment than it used to be, what with more signals from California and Mexico over the years. There was also an Oregon station (KWIP?) which came on around 1980 I think, not sure if it's still active.
 
multiplex said:
KRVN has been a big signal on 880 since they moved to that frequency in 1972. Very gettable in California, but it's a bigger accomplishment than it used to be, what with more signals from California and Mexico over the years. There was also an Oregon station (KWIP?) which came on around 1980 I think, not sure if it's still active.

I recall back in the late 80's driving from South Mountain Park (south of Phoenix) and was getting KRVN/880 clear as a bell in Stereo at around a couple of hours before local sunset. I was amazed in the strength of the signal from nearly 1100 miles away! It was just as clear as KSL/1160 and KFAM/700 in Salt Lake City. Another killer Stereo signal, that doesn't exist anymore, was KBOI/670 from Boise. That signal was a monster! Of course now, they directionalized their signal so that some Johnny-come-lately California signal could be thrown in. Too bad.
 
Right on the money, Peter. A West Coast blowtorch, with vivid stereo. Not as many highs as I'd have liked, but well-engineered and great-sounding.
 
In the 70s and early 80s when I would visit northern California, I always wanted to hear WCBS from New York but the Nebraska station was always there instead. Except for one night where I heard a faint WCBS with an ID.
 
gar fla said:
In the 70s and early 80s when I would visit northern California, I always wanted to hear WCBS from New York but the Nebraska station was always there instead. Except for one night where I heard a faint WCBS with an ID.

In the early 80s I heard WCBS near Palm Springs, Ca after KRVN signed off at midnight CST.
Of course this kind of DX was more frequent in the 60s. Several time I heard WCBS & WABC in Southern Calif (after KOB signed off) and I heard WBZ in Seattle in 1963.
 
I can quite frequently receive KRVN at night, here in San Antonio TX, mainly during fall-winter-early spring. In the early evenings during fall, I usually am able to pick up KNX from LA.
 
KRVN is a relatively easy catch in the Chicago area around sunset before they go to their nighttime pattern....assuming you're far enough away from the WLS stick (which I am). KRVN used to run an announcement before going to their nighttime pattern explaining what they were doing and why.
 
MarioMania said:
When do stations on AM go to Night Time Pattern??

How can I tell??

Generally near sunset local time. There are a few exceptions, like WCKY/KFBK, for example, where WCKY goes directional at KFBK sunset. Often, night power is less, so when switchover from day to night power occurs, there is more noise (static) in the received audio - unless you're very near the station, where it may sound about the same, or stronger, if the signal is now aimed in your direction.
 
stormy01 said:
MarioMania said:
When do stations on AM go to Night Time Pattern??

How can I tell??

Generally near sunset local time. There are a few exceptions, like WCKY/KFBK, for example, where WCKY goes directional at KFBK sunset. Often, night power is less, so when switchover from day to night power occurs, there is more noise (static) in the received audio - unless you're very near the station, where it may sound about the same, or stronger, if the signal is now aimed in your direction.

Night power is less, you say? What about KFMB? ;) And, another interesting tidbit about that station: a local highway, California State Route 52, cuts right through their array -- one tower is one one side of the freeway, the other two towers are on the other side.
 
travisl5678 said:
did you put up anymore DX Videos?

Nope

What's the chance of getting WCBS?? That's prolly wont happen were I am, The only time it will if every station on 880 go off the air except WCBS
 
MarioMania said:
travisl5678 said:
did you put up anymore DX Videos?

Nope

What's the chance of getting WCBS?? That's prolly wont happen were I am, The only time it will if every station on 880 go off the air except WCBS

Probably, unfortunately. However, a few years ago I remember hearing 780 WBBM Chicago from El Cajon, CA, even though 50kW KKOH Reno was on the air, local 50kW blowtorch KFMB's transmitter 7-8 miles from me was on the air, and I was using a radio with poor selectivity. The Select-A-Tenna did help, though.
However, I think one of my best "out from under the local / blowtorch" catches was a few years ago, using the same setup. I'm about 11 miles east of a station on 1240, and here with the good ground conductivity I'm close enough so that I generally don't hear the graveyard jumble under that frequency, so KNSN (was KSON at the time I think) usually has that frequency all to itself 24/7. Well, one evening KSON was just broadcasting an unmodulated carrier, and I heard a Radio Disney station under it. Turns out it was the one from Albuquerque, NM, clearly identifiable even though the local station was ON THE AIR and coming from the OPPOSITE DIRECTION!!
 
stormy01 said:
MarioMania said:
When do stations on AM go to Night Time Pattern??

How can I tell??

Generally near sunset local time. There are a few exceptions, like WCKY/KFBK, for example, where WCKY goes directional at KFBK sunset. Often, night power is less, so when switchover from day to night power occurs, there is more noise (static) in the received audio - unless you're very near the station, where it may sound about the same, or stronger, if the signal is now aimed in your direction.

WOSU (820) here in Columbus is the same way ... stays on daytime power until Dallas sunset, then drops from 5,000 to 790 watts directional to the northeast to protect WBAP. It's as good a null as I've ever heard the few times I've been lucky enough to be in the null at night. WBAP takes over within 10 miles.
 
MarioMania said:
What's the chance of getting WCBS?? That's prolly wont happen were I am, The only time it will if every station on 880 go off the air except WCBS

I would say the only time you might have a shot is late October through February.

Even if KRVN is broadcasting all through the night, there could still be a rare time where conditions make their signal weak and allow a skip for WCBS to make it in.

Like I mentioned in the past here, I once got KFI in New Jersey for a few minutes in the winter of 77/78 after endless hours of listening for it and getting nothing. At the time, WHLO from Akron, Ohio dominated the frequency of 640 at night and it seemed impossible I could ever hear KFI but there were also periods of fading and that was the opportunity for KFI to sneak in when conditions were ripe and it eventually did.
 
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