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KRXQ Morning Crew Mocks Transgender Children

MsMusicRadio said:
I absolutely agree that I I DO NOT WANT THE GUMMINT TO INTERFERE. However, making a joke about beating your own child and making a joke about former Rep. Larry Craig are not the same as far as ethics are concerned. I only want Entercom to do another show in which these announcers are required to interview a child psychologist who can explain why they are wrong on this. Let them admit their mistake on the air and we can move on. I know they can fake an apology as well as some of you think they faked the rage at trans-children. So what. At least someone can dispute them. If this was ONLY a joke, they should assess the humor before they wind up like Imus.

I do wonder if Rob and Arnie are equally upset about any female child wearing pants and playing football or baseball insted of learning to cook, sew, and be deferential to men?

msmusic...I think you just offended many tradiional women who like to sew and cook.
 
The comment was in poor taste, and wrong. But that is exactly the type of thing people who listed to RAD want and expect.

And after reading more about exactly was said on the air, I do agree that it was blown WAY out of proportion. It was a few seemingly off-the-cuff remarks, not a 20 minute bit extolling hatred for those who are different.
 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Ok, so maybe I wouldn't defend RAD to the death for their moronic behavior but you get the idea. John is correct - this has been blown way out of proportion. Though I don't agree with the statements RAD (or rather, RA) made and don't enjoy that type of "humor", it scares the bejeezus out of me to think that a morning show, or anyone for that matter, would be forced to retract or apologize for exercising their freedom of speech.

To suspend broadcasting for a few days, only to return with a forced apology is standard procedure and it's pretty predictable and pathetic. Look, I'm not in support of their statements (or their morning show for that matter) but the day we start forcing people to apologize for saying something which might be offensive is the day we might as well sign over the rest of our hard-earned freedoms.

The answer is simple, my friends. Let nature, or rather, business take its course. Someone says something offensive on the radio = advertisers pulling dollars from that show or station, hitting them where it hurts the most... in the pocketbook.
 
Re: 98 Rock Gay Comments

BossJock1947 said:
RadioStarOne said:
Which is yours to do as you see fit. Which is just what I intend to do whenever I see or hear anyone advocating violence against children over the public airwaves, anyone's children. I've already sent a personal letter to each of the sitting FCC commissioners, and to all of my state and federal represenitatives complaining about this matter. Thanks BossJock1947 I needed to be fired up over this matter all over again! You did the trick! I think some follow up letters are in order, thanks for the reminder that I haven't done enough to protect everyones children in addition to my own!

Like I said before there's more violence in cartoons. You wanna take them off the air? What about all the violent movies. Take em off. Sporting events. IE; Boxing?

This is not about violence between consenting adults in a sporting event. This is not about a sportswriter changing sex twice. This is not about Manny being Manny. This is about making fun of some of society's most victimized people and joking about beating a child. I stand by my views.

You and msmusic are really showing just how irrational you are.
 
I guess I messed that up trying to use the quotes. This is not about violent sports between consenting adults, a sportswriter changing sex twice,or Manny being Manny. This is about ridiculing some of society's most vulnerable people and joking about beating your own son over a wardrobe choice. This is about nasty remarks about people who haven't done anything . Kinda like an all female college basketball team I remember.

I stand by my views.
 
And this is the real issue:

When ridiculing, the target cannot be innocent. There's no payoff to that. RAD's comedy does ridicule. And it does so equally. Unfortunately, this time they targeted innocents. When they did so, they were unrepentant about it. I think that's where people got so mad. We're very quick to forgive someone for stepping over the line.

But, the perceived arrogance with which Arnie responded is what really irks those angry with them.

Every oppressed group wants their concerns not only heard, but acknowledged as valid. Whether they are, or not. In this case, I happen to believe both sides have their points.

Arnie was just being goofy. As he is wont to do. However, as I said before, he clowned the innocent. They're undeserving targets for his humor. It was in poor taste. I won't speak for him. Had it been me...I'd have just said "I was goofing off and stepped over the line...sorry 'bout that." and most people would've probably accepted that.

But...and again..there is no right or wrong...they stood by the statements, and then expanded upon them by aggressively addressing critics. In some instances this is the absolute proper response.

This wasn't one of those.

I'm not saying anyone should apologize for their opinions. But as they often say...it's not what you said, it's how you said it. On the other hand. In order to achieve true equality in life, we have to accept criticism, and non-acceptance from people.

Not everyone is liked/accepted. There's no way to force people to accept anyone of differing beliefs, or lifestyle. And to strip RAD of their livelihood for this is bullying.

Equality means you must take the intolerance with the acceptance.

That's how it works.
 
Arnie could go off on a fifty minute rant on Steven Tyler's bathing suits, Ron Wood's hair, Renee Richards, Lou Reed, beards in baseball, Mark Fyrdrich, the old Johnny Damon, Joe Namath in pantyhose, Troy Palomalo's hair, Hank Stram's toupee, Lawrence of Arabia, Queer Eye ,
kilts, men in caftans, sarongs on men at the beach, David Lee Roth------I hope I made my point. Except for making fun of a Steeler, I would be unfazed and calm as ice cause he can ridicule any public figure he wants. But not who he did. Thanks for letting me overstate my case.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
I guess I messed that up trying to use the quotes. This is not about violent sports between consenting adults, a sportswriter changing sex twice,or Manny being Manny. This is about ridiculing some of society's most vulnerable people and joking about beating your own son over a wardrobe choice. This is about nasty remarks about people who haven't done anything . Kinda like an all female college basketball team I remember.

I stand by my views.

Better turn off 90% of sitcoms, late shows, comedy shows, comedy clubs, songs, radio shows, etc etc etc Hide under a rock msmusic. Haa..Haa :D
 
And yet, if he'd picked on the child of a major advertiser, nobody would blink about having to air a retraction or apology. In fact, radio folks like ourselves would find it a miracle that he got off so lightly, were that the case.
 
Except there is no "victim" here; the "child" in question is a hypothetical... to me there's a big difference between what Arnie said in his current state as a non-parent as opposed to if he'd said that and actually had a son. Besides, if Arnie does manage to procreate, I'm pretty sure karma will see to it that he has nothing but girls.
 
Having a transgender child would be karma.....

And for those of you who want to cease and desist all conversation about RAD, this has been one of the most thought-provoking dialogues on this forum in months. Some of the comments have been quite intelligent and well-written, if not always well-received. The ones who yell, "Free speech, free speech" should be mindful of our first amendment rights to discuss this issue 'til the cows come home.
 
David67 said:
I'm sick of Political Correctness being shoved down Everyone's throat! ::) Am also tired of the Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual and Transgender label being applied to groups(Like some groups of Children) where it may not necessarily apply. ::)

AMEN!
 
Neanderpaul said:
Just so I have this straight....

Arnie jokes about beating his kid if he shows up in heels...

That's considered horrible right?

But:

I dug my key into the side of his pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive,
carved my name into his leather seats,
I took a Louisville slugger to both headlights,
slashed a hole in all 4 tires...
- Before He Cheats


And...


Goodbye Earl
Those black-eyed peas
They tasted all right to me Earl
You're feeling weak
Why don't you lay down
and sleep Earl
Ain't it dark
Wrapped up in that tarp Earl
- Goodbye Earl


Both get multiple awards? Including Grammys.


I just want to make sure I have this right. It's OK to advocate vigilante justice and destruction in song. In fact society rewards songs glorifying it.

But Arnie's the bad guy?

You may not agree with the sentiment. But, until Arnie actually beats his kid with a shoe, his only "crime" is espousing his comedy in what many consider poor taste.

If only people were as angry at the clergy...or those who've actually done horrible things to children.

Think we might need a little realistic focus.
AMEN!!!
 
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