How did KRZZ transmitter end up in the hills of San Leandro? That is the worst place to put the transmitter out there. You can see the transmitter between the San Leandro and Bay Fair BART station. No wonder why 93.3 signal doesn't do very well around the bay and the ratings. Can their transmitter move to San Bruno mountains or Mt. Suturo?
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KRZZ-San Francisco (93.3FM)
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Back in the day when it was KYA 93.3 it worked fine!!!!!! I live in Concord i only listened to KYA 93.3! Back when Gene Nelson ,Celeste Perry, Pat Evans, Scott Forest, Sylvia Chacon, Sam Van Zandt, Paula Kelly, John Mack Flanagan, where doing "Real Radio" this was a great station! OOps then KFRC changed it to Young Country in 1994!! Those guys really know how to get rid of a great station, not to mention the call letters!! KYA was great on AM and my favorite FM station! No Reception problems, my Oldies came to me crisp and clear!! Kenny in Concord
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Kenny, you were probably hearing the signal from a repeater in Contra Costa that was at 93.5.
BTW, you're right about KYA. When it was Top 40 (before KFRC), they were at the top of the heap.
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Tom_KYA1260, nice reply, KYA was my station, it had the best DJs and jingles, in fact when Chris Edwards, "Dirty Little Billy" Bill Holley and the Famous "Tall Tom Campbell" were there in 1968, it was a whole new era for KYA 1260! Tall Tom ruled the Airwaves then, it sure makes you really appreciate "Real Radio 60 s Style!" The music then was un surpassed and no DJ alive today would loan out his Personnal Corvette as Tom did! I remember in 1969 on the way home Tom in his Vette and right where the Covette letters where It said Toms name and KYA right on the rear panel I believe it was in fancy gold Cursive lettering! The Bay Area was lucky to Have KYA 1260, and I will never forget AVCO Broadcasting for their Ultimate Contribution to Radio!! Wheres Sherry Derry Barry these days? Kenny in Concord , I found KYA in 1962 when I was just 9!!
How did KRZZ transmitter end up in the hills of San Leandro? That is the worst place to put the transmitter out there. You can see the transmitter between the San Leandro and Bay Fair BART station. No wonder why 93.3 signal doesn't do very well around the bay and the ratings. Can their transmitter move to San Bruno mountains or Mt. Suturo?
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Would you beleive that they still have a full blown auxiliary transmitter at the KOIT-AM on Candle Stick Hill?
When KYA AM and FM were once co-owned and the stations were co-located on the same tower. When the stations split apart in ownership, a deal was made for them to stay. I doubt that they have fired up that site more than once a year. Candle Stick would serve San Francisco better but may be shadowed to a lot of other places
There is a 92.9 in Santa Rosa and I can't think of any other station that would prevent it from moving. Except there is cost of rent at a more expensive site and the owners may believe that that there is not a coverage problem.
Are there any other FM stations co-located on that site or near there?
Newsperson
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Would you beleive that they still have a full blown auxiliary transmitter at the KOIT-AM on Candle Stick Hill?
When KYA AM and FM were once co-owned and the stations were co-located on the same tower. When the stations split apart in ownership, a deal was made for them to stay. I doubt that they have fired up that site more than once a year. Candle Stick would serve San Francisco better but may be shadowed to a lot of other places
There is a 92.9 in Santa Rosa and I can't think of any other station that would prevent it from moving. Except there is cost of rent at a more expensive site and the owners may believe that that there is not a coverage problem.
Are there any other FM stations co-located on that site or near there?
Newsperson
I also liked 93.3 as an oldies station - first as a simulcast with KSFO in the 80s, then in the 90s as a stand-alone Oldies station. But I beg to differ with XM about the signal- it always sucked. It came in OK at my home in SF, but faded in and out constantly while driving. The only other FM I remember having so much trouble with is Live 105 (point 3) in the 80s and early 90s. Listening to Alex Bennett in the car was frustrating because you'd round a corner and the signal would disappear, or fill with static. KYA-FM was much the same.
But I don't think the signal would necessarily be bad just because it's in San Leandro - the "sticks" as somebody called it. That's a fairly central Bay Area location. After all, the biggest signal in all of Bay Area radio (KGO) is in the "sticks" - in the mud in the middle of the Dumbarton Bridge. Perhaps somebody reading these posts with some technical knowledge of FM signals and locations could weigh in...
But I don't think the signal would necessarily be bad just because it's in San Leandro - the "sticks" as somebody called it. That's a fairly central Bay Area location. After all, the biggest signal in all of Bay Area radio (KGO) is in the "sticks" - in the mud in the middle of the Dumbarton Bridge. Perhaps somebody reading these posts with some technical knowledge of FM signals and locations could weigh in...
paulsecic said:
It is owned by SBS, but the transmitter location seriously predates the current ownership. Transmitter locations are picked for several reasns:
1. Ability to cover the market
2. Technical aspects such as co-and adjacent channel locations, that may determine a small possible location area.
3. Ability to get zoning, permits, etc. Most neighborhoods don't want a radio station.
In additon, FMs look for a location that is as high as possible, without obstructions (hills, etc) between it and the greatest number of listeners. AMs look for low, marshy or salt water or tidal flat locations if possible. They shun dry, rocky and hilly locations, as Am works badly from those kinds of sites.
Because of this, most FM transmitters tend to be either on shared tall buildings or community towers (Sutro, Hancock, Empire State) or in antenna farms (Cedar Hill, Senior Road, N. Miami Beach, Mt. Wilson) or on tall towers outside the metro center.
AMs tend to located so that the major lobe of directional stations is aimed over the intended coverage area, or, otherwise, wherever there is land available to build a tower site... big AMs may have 10 acres or more, and stations have been known to move sites when the land becomes too valuable (high taxes, etc) to use as a site.
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newsperson said:
Actually, Candlestick is the MAIN transmitter for La Raza, and San Leandro is the backup for when Candlestick fails. Maybe before SBS took it over, it was the other way arround. I am not sure.
It in fact, WAS the otehr way around previously. Some rocket scientists thought they should have better South Bay coverage, prior to First Broadcasting's purchase, if memory serves. In the early 90's, they ran on the SF stick as much as possible, "testing" and ironing out problems with the San Leandro site. In reality, it was because the SL stick had crummy coverage of SF and points north.
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