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KSFO: The Voice Of ... Fresno?

Rich Lieberman notes in his blog that Jerry Del Colliano noted in his "Inside Music Media" column that one of his readers noted that KSFO was running audio from Fresno's venerable KMJ. (Follow that?)

Quoting Del Colliano's reader:

When the 8:30 am bottom of the hour news came on, I hear the call letters "KMJ-Fresno." That's right I'm in the bay area listening to local news, traffic, weather, commentary and commercials from a Fresno radio station. San Francisco, the 4th largest market in the country, and KSFO simulcast their morning programming from a Fresno talk station. Is it any wonder KSFO's ratings are tanking.

Any chance that Jerry's reader had bumped his radio and channeled 580 (KMJ) rather than 560 (KSFO)?
 
BossRadioDJ said:
Rich Lieberman notes in his blog that Jerry Del Colliano noted in his "Inside Music Media" column that one of his readers noted that KSFO was running audio from Fresno's venerable KMJ. (Follow that?)

Quoting Del Colliano's reader:

When the 8:30 am bottom of the hour news came on, I hear the call letters "KMJ-Fresno." That's right I'm in the bay area listening to local news, traffic, weather, commentary and commercials from a Fresno radio station. San Francisco, the 4th largest market in the country, and KSFO simulcast their morning programming from a Fresno talk station. Is it any wonder KSFO's ratings are tanking.

Any chance that Jerry's reader had bumped his radio and channeled 580 (KMJ) rather than 560 (KSFO)?

From reading the full article this dosen't sound like a mistake. I like listening to KMJ sometimes though, I think KMJ has like A 9.1 in Fresno. Maybe they should add KSFO's numbers to KMJs Arbs
 
I haven't listened to KSFO in the mornings for a few years, but I must be missing something here. Brian Sussman hosts the morning show, and he's local, right?

Even before Citadel ownership (Disney ABC years), KSFO had only a tiny news staff - a news reader and traffic reporter. So if they're just simulcasting some part of the morning news, what's the big deal? Maybe somebody in the KSFO control room missed a cue and forgot to break away, and caught the KMJ station ID by mistake. I can't believe they'd regularly run local Fresno news and traffic.

Years ago, I remember seeing some breaking LA news story on KRON (when it was still NBC)...might have been the OJ Simpson car chase...can't remember. They cut from the live coverage back to the KNBC studios, and KRON viewers got to see about 10 seconds of Paul Moyer before the KRON control room cut back to Pete Wilson. It was no big deal - just somebody asleep at the switch.
 
Apparently Jerry's reader is mistaken. And Jerry has once again jumped to conclusions. Without even bothering to check the facts. Amazing that this guy once wrote a credible trade publication. Now he's just another blogger.

What should have made him realize the mistake is that KMJ isn't owned by Citadel. While it's possible that KSFO might rebroadcast another Citadel station, I doubt they'd do that with a station owned by Peak. But who cares? KSFO is mostly syndicated conservative talk anyway.

The thing that makes me laugh is the idea that complaining to the FCC would make any difference.
 
Tom (Officer Vic) Benner does the news & traffic with Suss live in studio every morning. All the rest of KSFO news & traffic is fed out of Metro San Francisco, 24/7. I don't know what the "reporter" heard, but this is a fact. The station board op rolls a bed, and the Metro talent does the 'casts.
 
TheBigA said:
Apparently Jerry's reader is mistaken. And Jerry has once again jumped to conclusions. Without even bothering to check the facts. Amazing that this guy once wrote a credible trade publication. Now he's just another blogger.

What should have made him realize the mistake is that KMJ isn't owned by Citadel. While it's possible that KSFO might rebroadcast another Citadel station, I doubt they'd do that with a station owned by Peak. But who cares? KSFO is mostly syndicated conservative talk anyway.

The thing that makes me laugh is the idea that complaining to the FCC would make any difference.

I just checked KMJ's website. They're 580 AM, so they're adjacent to 560. Jerry was probably tuned to KMJ by mistake.


Too bad, actually. If KSFO was serving Fresno, all they'd have to do is transpose 2 call letters and become KFSO.

http://www.kmj580.com/pages/main
 
Once I was doing a remote for a station I worked for with an amp that had an AM/FM tuner in it and we were just getting on the air live at the station and I sent out over our station an ID for KHYL 101.1 Auburn Sacramento clear as a bell at the remote and over the air! Perfect timing? You said it. Talk about red faces all around the remote location! I just forgot to switch the tuner section off. Oops. I've got that one on tape somewhere. No one ever complained even the GM and he heard it too! My bad! What do you expect from a greenhorn's first remote ever? It was fun and I would do it all again!
 
Shoot From Hip said:
Del Colliano retracted and apologized in today's column. Evidently his informant heard the 580 signal and assumed it was 560.


No apology required. It gave us something to complain...uh...talk about.
 
I think there IS an apology required. If Citadel had reported news without checking facts, Jerry would have been all over them. He had the knowledge and the experience to know what to do, but he chose to believe what he wanted to believe, rather than do what's right. That's bad journalism, and he's supposed to be a journalist. A lot of people believe what he writes. If you're going to throw stones, you need to be sure your glass house is protected. Jerry didn't do that, so his credibility is hurt. Pointing the finger at others mistakes doesn't absolve you of your own.
 
Yes, but KWSX and KFBK are co-owned, which at least makes the scenario plausible. There's nothing even vaguely plausible about KSFO, owned by Citadel in a top-10 market, simulcasting KMJ, owned by Peak in a much, much smaller market. It doesn't take very much fact-checking to figure that out - unless, as BigA notes, you want so badly to believe what you want to believe that you stop letting facts get in the way. That appears to be what Jerry did here, and while he owned up to this particular whopper, there have been plenty of other questionable claims made in his blog in recent years that have passed without any later clarifications, retractions or apologies.

I disagree with BigA that "his credibility is hurt." Among most of the folks I talk to in the industry, it was mostly gone a long time ago.
 
Scott Fybush said:
I disagree with BigA that "his credibility is hurt." Among most of the folks I talk to in the industry, it was mostly gone a long time ago.

Actually I see what you mean, and I think a lot of those who read him are also in the "believe what you want to believe" group.
 
I think a phone call to KSFO to confirm the "claim" would have been nice...But there was no call from Jerry.

Credibility???? How about some Accountability? There is none in the world of Blogging, unless you are working for a news organization
that thinks checking the facts is actually important.

BTW...an apology was requested, not given...Is anyone surprised?

Shoot...Ready...Aim...Blog.
 
Actually, he apologize in today's edition of his blog. Didn't fall all over himself doing it, for sure, but it's out there. Of course they didn't demand an apology. I have barely met Mr. Luckoff, but he seems to have far too much class to demand such.

<I apologize to VP/GM Mickey Luckoff and the folks at Peak, owners of KMJ. (By the way, no one made a demand for an apology or retraction which says a lot about them as well).>
 
Somewhat along these same lines - I was listening to Kiss-FM last evening, and the traffic reporter (Metro presumably) thought she was on Star 101.3 - not only IDed herself on the wrong station, but read the 'Star' promo for some upcoming station event.

I've heard this happen before, and I realize they're both Clear Channel stations. I guess it's easy for the Metro reporters to forget which station they're on ???
 
That wouldn't be a Metro employee. Clear Channel has their own in-house traffic and news for all their stations. It's called the Total Traffic Network, and they have it nationwide. It's not near as large as Metro, and doesn't have many out of house affiliates, but allows them to sell and run their own spots and therefore keep the revenue in-house.
 
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