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KSIQ Silent Again?
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Garrett said:RadeoEngineer said:600kogo said:I was serious about them turning on the pilot
Absolutely 600. They'll drop close to half their coverage when (if) they go to stereo. Several years ago we did a format change with a countdown clock on 94.9, and I switched the system to mono while I made a bunch of changes in STL and processing. It got me a visit from the FCC because we were all of a sudden blasting into L.A. with that stupid computer countdown voice. I wasn't fined by the way because we had operators on duty 24/7 and all the logs were complete.
There was a processing change between Mix 94.9 and KBest? Really?
KBest sounded like a million bucks, by the way...
Yes, I put in a Catlink digital STL and an Optimod 8200. And thank you for the compliment. Oldies is a very difficult format to process because of the differing degrees of recording technology over the years. I had the good fortune of spending 90 minutes at a New Orleans NAB radio show picking the brain of Bob Orban without interruption. I think he was very happy to talk to an actual engineer rather than some suit in town to party. His comments were very helpful.
KOGO now come on. I like both Bob and Frank. I really appreciated the undisturbed time I had with Bob and he was very helpful with me trying to get 94.9 sounding right with an 8200. I wouldn't have had that opportunity at a Las Vegas NAB show, and he was very happy to have someone to talk to that cared about processing oldies with his 8200 (state of the art at the time). Bob even said it was very difficult to find the happy medium with any processor including his when dealing with oldies. I've also had convos with Frank and he was just as helpful and interested in getting my questions answered and problems solved.
I prefer the Orban topography (for lack of a better word), but I've had success getting what I wanted from both boxes. And I love everything about the Omnia/Telos/Axia products. It is some seriously good shit, but the Orban products are every bit as top notch. Both Bob and Frank are friggin geniouses, but just a little different in their approaches. It's all fine if you take the time.
I prefer the Orban topography (for lack of a better word), but I've had success getting what I wanted from both boxes. And I love everything about the Omnia/Telos/Axia products. It is some seriously good shit, but the Orban products are every bit as top notch. Both Bob and Frank are friggin geniouses, but just a little different in their approaches. It's all fine if you take the time.
RadeoEngineer said:Garrett said:RadeoEngineer said:600kogo said:I was serious about them turning on the pilot
Absolutely 600. They'll drop close to half their coverage when (if) they go to stereo. Several years ago we did a format change with a countdown clock on 94.9, and I switched the system to mono while I made a bunch of changes in STL and processing. It got me a visit from the FCC because we were all of a sudden blasting into L.A. with that stupid computer countdown voice. I wasn't fined by the way because we had operators on duty 24/7 and all the logs were complete.
There was a processing change between Mix 94.9 and KBest? Really?
KBest sounded like a million bucks, by the way...
Yes, I put in a Catlink digital STL and an Optimod 8200. And thank you for the compliment. Oldies is a very difficult format to process because of the differing degrees of recording technology over the years. I had the good fortune of spending 90 minutes at a New Orleans NAB radio show picking the brain of Bob Orban without interruption. I think he was very happy to talk to an actual engineer rather than some suit in town to party. His comments were very helpful.
You're welcome. Before KBest95 came back on with the Oldies, the station for Oldies was KCBQ. But for some reason, the audio in KCBQ seemed very flat to me. I just couldn't put my finger on it, but it just sounded very dry, and kind of sloppy. I don't blame the engineers or people who worked at KCBQ for that, and suspect it had to do with older equipment, or maybe old vinyl or both. But when 94.9 flipped to KBEST, the Difference was like night and day! Everything was so sharp, clear, and yet, loud!
Thank you. I had the advantage of new, state of the art equipment, and I believe we also had a completely remastered library on CD from TM. I'm not sure what KCBQ was using at the time, but I believe it may have been some configuration of CRL boxes perhaps with some additional outboard processing. The digital STL also made a huge difference in the lower distortion and flatter frequency response.
RadeoEngineer said:Thank you. I had the advantage of new, state of the art equipment, and I believe we also had a completely remastered library on CD from TM. I'm not sure what KCBQ was using at the time, but I believe it may have been some configuration of CRL boxes perhaps with some additional outboard processing. The digital STL also made a huge difference in the lower distortion and flatter frequency response.
If KCBQ was processed like its then sister KOOL, it probably was CRL + black boxes. Of the different flavors of analog chains of the day, it was one of the better ones - but a digital airchain would still blow it out of the water.
I know that Sonny West was pd of KCBQ in the oldies days, and he was the reason that the processing on KyXy has been set so poorly for the last 20 years. I dont think he likes highs or lows just mids!! When I asked years ago why KyXy sounded so bad I was told "Sonny wants it this way". Im sure that hes the reason why the current KyXy processor sounds like it does. Sonny is a great programmer and good on the air but someone needs to get him some decent headphones or someway for him to hear good audio. But that being said Im sure that Sonny set up KCBQ's processor back them.
600kogo said:I know that Sonny West was pd of KCBQ in the oldies days, and he was the reason that the processing on KyXy has been set so poorly for the last 20 years. I dont think he likes highs or lows just mids!! When I asked years ago why KyXy sounded so bad I was told "Sonny wants it this way". Im sure that hes the reason why the current KyXy processor sounds like it does. Sonny is a great programmer and good on the air but someone needs to get him some decent headphones or someway for him to hear good audio. But that being said Im sure that Sonny set up KCBQ's processor back them.
If you ever worked at the KYXY studios, you'd know it's hard to imagine that Sonny was ever in charge of audio processing. And if he ever was, it's been a long, long time since he was PD, at last 15 years I'd say.
And as for the alleged poor processing: well it didn't stop them from being the top-rated station in the marker most of the time (until they hired Jeff and Jer).
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