I just got a good signal from KSL, good enough to get a station ID too.
A 1883 mile catch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOt2EGDZjo
A 1883 mile catch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOt2EGDZjo
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KSL received in Tampa!
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Nice catch! Except for the splatter from an adjacent channel, that's about as strong as it sounded nightly in Ohio back in the 60's at night. But mine was with a 100' long wire on an old zenith tube console radio. Ya done good!
gar fla said:
No question about it - that break was out of KSL's Nightside program (which I've listened to many times), so my guess is that it was about 23:00 - 24:00 in Tampa. Excellent catch - congratulations!
I wish we had a shot at it here in Chicagoland.....but there's no way with 50 local kw of WYLL on 1160.
BRNout said:
You can still hear KSL in the background in the Chicago area if you null WYLL. I'm about 35 miles north of their transmitter. It's tough to be sure, but it can still be heard in the background.
radioman148 said:
To be painfully honest, I find WYLL's format to be so unlistenably bad that I haven't had the patience to try. But the next time I am up late, perhaps I will. I have picked up KSL after 9 pm in central IL - about 30 mi west of Springfield. It faded in and out a lot, but it was definitely KSL. Was there 3 nights (last Jan) and only got KSL on 1 of those nights.
Who's playing music in the background of WLS lately?
Since I didn't have a video of the time I got KFI, that's still my next goal, to get a catch of KFI on video.
I've been trying a lot all the nights I've been searching for KSL but nothing comes through even nearly good enough.
From where I am, LA is only a couple of hundred miles more than Salt Lake City so I'd think it shouldn't be as hard to get as it is.
Maybe I'll have to wait until the winter as that's when I got it last as well as the one time in New Jersey 32 years ago.
1070 where KNX is always has way too many stations on it to be able to single out one signal and hear it.
I've been trying a lot all the nights I've been searching for KSL but nothing comes through even nearly good enough.
From where I am, LA is only a couple of hundred miles more than Salt Lake City so I'd think it shouldn't be as hard to get as it is.
Maybe I'll have to wait until the winter as that's when I got it last as well as the one time in New Jersey 32 years ago.
1070 where KNX is always has way too many stations on it to be able to single out one signal and hear it.
We'll be in Florida at the Folks' place in late October. First thing I've got packed was the GE SR II, hi. If I'm not mistaken, there's a loop antenna in their garage crawl space.
I doubt I'll have much of a go at KFI. The Folks live in the Villages, home of WVLG 640. Perhaps they're not 24/7, but with my luck .......
I'll give 1070 a spin, though. And maybe I'll do an actual Monday Morning monitor like the old days. My Florida 'DXing' traditionally hasn't been anything much more than getting air checks over the years, but with very little left on AM of listenable worth, it's likely I'll be going for sheer IDs at least once this trip.
Re KNX, Gar :
During the time the California fires were big DX news because of the Mount Wilson towers, I had KNX on the internet a few times for updates. I didn't give a thought at the time to have them on line and try to parallel them with audio on 1070 ; the fires were the reason I tuned in. Have you tried the webstream/1070 comparison method?
Some DXers with a purist aproach may turn their noses up at that, what might be called cheating, but I do recall some veteran DXers //ing the much-easier to get short wave stations .... R. Tirana, R. Luxembourg, Belgium ..... with the audio on the tougher split-frequency AM signals at sunset and 'counting' them. Some of those folks had pretty strict standards. I know one DXer who wouldn't count a station on his 'heard' list unless he got a QSL from them!
Obviously, the short-wave/AM comparison involves a matter of two sources, but both require some DX skill. You have to find the parent signal on short-wave. The //ing of AM dial with an internet stream is half non-DX.
To each his own! I'm not the rabid DXer I was back in the Sixties. Moving 200 miles from the scene of hundreds of all-night DX sessions kinda makes you start a new totals list, but in the interim, as I mentioned, the dials have become less and less listenable through the years. You used to be able to tune out of a session of trying to ID a station through as assault of sideband slop, or emerge from some unID that was playing test tones, and take a breather by tuning in some music. Not anymore.
I doubt I'll have much of a go at KFI. The Folks live in the Villages, home of WVLG 640. Perhaps they're not 24/7, but with my luck .......
I'll give 1070 a spin, though. And maybe I'll do an actual Monday Morning monitor like the old days. My Florida 'DXing' traditionally hasn't been anything much more than getting air checks over the years, but with very little left on AM of listenable worth, it's likely I'll be going for sheer IDs at least once this trip.
Re KNX, Gar :
During the time the California fires were big DX news because of the Mount Wilson towers, I had KNX on the internet a few times for updates. I didn't give a thought at the time to have them on line and try to parallel them with audio on 1070 ; the fires were the reason I tuned in. Have you tried the webstream/1070 comparison method?
Some DXers with a purist aproach may turn their noses up at that, what might be called cheating, but I do recall some veteran DXers //ing the much-easier to get short wave stations .... R. Tirana, R. Luxembourg, Belgium ..... with the audio on the tougher split-frequency AM signals at sunset and 'counting' them. Some of those folks had pretty strict standards. I know one DXer who wouldn't count a station on his 'heard' list unless he got a QSL from them!
Obviously, the short-wave/AM comparison involves a matter of two sources, but both require some DX skill. You have to find the parent signal on short-wave. The //ing of AM dial with an internet stream is half non-DX.
To each his own! I'm not the rabid DXer I was back in the Sixties. Moving 200 miles from the scene of hundreds of all-night DX sessions kinda makes you start a new totals list, but in the interim, as I mentioned, the dials have become less and less listenable through the years. You used to be able to tune out of a session of trying to ID a station through as assault of sideband slop, or emerge from some unID that was playing test tones, and take a breather by tuning in some music. Not anymore.
Hi Steve. I've thought about doing the online stream audio comparison but then considered how many of those online streams are in a delay from what's on the air.
If you're able to take the drive, you probably wouldn't have to travel too far to get away from the signal of 640 in the Villages.
Now and then I'll get a good signal from WLVG at night but mostly I can't hear a thing from them.
I hope you also get a chance to get to the Gulf and try some daytime dxing. You also may want to try the east coast anywhere from Daytona Beach south to see what you could get during the day. In my brief visit to Daytona Beach, I was so rushed for time to avoid the Orlando rush hour mess on the way back, I only got to try for two New York stations and a quick band scan on some other frequencies.
I read in another forum where the topic was "Spring Break DXing" and someone said they could hear WBZ sitting in their car on Daytona beach at 5 in the afternoon. But that was in 1994. When I checked 1030 there, the Cuban station was WAY too loud to hear anything.
So hopefully you get to take advantage of the good daytime DXing here as there aren't many other locations in the country where you can do that.
If you're able to take the drive, you probably wouldn't have to travel too far to get away from the signal of 640 in the Villages.
Now and then I'll get a good signal from WLVG at night but mostly I can't hear a thing from them.
I hope you also get a chance to get to the Gulf and try some daytime dxing. You also may want to try the east coast anywhere from Daytona Beach south to see what you could get during the day. In my brief visit to Daytona Beach, I was so rushed for time to avoid the Orlando rush hour mess on the way back, I only got to try for two New York stations and a quick band scan on some other frequencies.
I read in another forum where the topic was "Spring Break DXing" and someone said they could hear WBZ sitting in their car on Daytona beach at 5 in the afternoon. But that was in 1994. When I checked 1030 there, the Cuban station was WAY too loud to hear anything.
So hopefully you get to take advantage of the good daytime DXing here as there aren't many other locations in the country where you can do that.
radioman148 said:
Radioman, thanks for this tip! Last night at about 11:05 CT, I nulled WYLL and - sure enough - could hear KSL on my Eton E5 from just NW of Chicago! It was at the end of their local newscast and I caught a reference to Utah and the KSL call letters. A bit tough with the crap from WYLL fading in and out (even when nulled - because they're too strong to totally null), but yes I could copy KSL clearly enough to hear what they were saying. Tried another radio and could hear mish-mash with WYLL nulled, but it wasn't able to pull in KSL well enough to ID it (like my E5 did).
If there was no WYLL, it probably would have had a comparable signal to KOA last night - and last night seemed to be a great night to dx. Picked up CKSB 1050 from Winnipeg, MB too - first time I've gotten that one. It's only 10 kw.
BRNout said:
I too can get KSL when nulling WYLL, but as you pointed out the other day it's tough to stay with long because WYLL's programming is tough to take.
KSL has a great signal. They were one of the strongest mainland stations I heard when I was in Hawaii.
KSL is difficult to get in Lake County Indiana as well, due to Grade A coverage of WYLL at night. I find that if I'm in an area of all concrete, then I have my best chance of getting KSL, since I get WYLL if I'm in an area that has soil exposed. For me, nulling out WYLL is next to impossible. As soon as WRTO Chicago switches over to their new tower site, WOAI will become more difficult in the same area as well, due to more of the signal pushing into NW Indiana.
"If there was no WYLL, it probably would have had a comparable signal to KOA last night - and last night seemed to be a great night to dx. Picked up CKSB 1050 from Winnipeg, MB too - first time I've gotten that one. It's only 10 kw."
"I too can get KSL when nulling WYLL, but as you pointed out the other day it's tough to stay with long because WYLL's programming is tough to take.
KSL has a great signal. They were one of the strongest mainland stations I heard when I was in Hawaii."
CKSB is a good catch in No. Illinois considering that we have quite a mish-mash of WEPN, WLIP, CHUM, etc. CKSB occasionally rides on top of the 1050 'mix'. CKSB's directional pattern has one of their lobes aimed more-or-less towards my area, so that 10kW might sound more like 20 to 30kW... What about the Canadians on 600, 920 and 620? Those are good catches under WMT, WBAA/WOKY and WTMJ, respectively. CKAT North Bay, ON - 600; CFRY Portage La Prairie, MB - 920; CKRM Regina, SK - 620.
The infomercials on WYLL are much more annoying (buy Gold, go to the back cracker, Chews-4-Health, etc.) than the preaching, to me at least. It was helpful at times to identify other stations on 1160 when WYLL had music on between their programs and the other stations are "talking" but they've managed to fill all their airtime with preaching, infomercials, Cisco Cotto or 'ministry rewind'. (; I've noticed KSL coming in better recently as well.
"I too can get KSL when nulling WYLL, but as you pointed out the other day it's tough to stay with long because WYLL's programming is tough to take.
KSL has a great signal. They were one of the strongest mainland stations I heard when I was in Hawaii."
CKSB is a good catch in No. Illinois considering that we have quite a mish-mash of WEPN, WLIP, CHUM, etc. CKSB occasionally rides on top of the 1050 'mix'. CKSB's directional pattern has one of their lobes aimed more-or-less towards my area, so that 10kW might sound more like 20 to 30kW... What about the Canadians on 600, 920 and 620? Those are good catches under WMT, WBAA/WOKY and WTMJ, respectively. CKAT North Bay, ON - 600; CFRY Portage La Prairie, MB - 920; CKRM Regina, SK - 620.
The infomercials on WYLL are much more annoying (buy Gold, go to the back cracker, Chews-4-Health, etc.) than the preaching, to me at least. It was helpful at times to identify other stations on 1160 when WYLL had music on between their programs and the other stations are "talking" but they've managed to fill all their airtime with preaching, infomercials, Cisco Cotto or 'ministry rewind'. (; I've noticed KSL coming in better recently as well.
I actually tried for KSL last night (around 11:00 ET) and heard not much more than WYLL. Cincinnati came through when WYLL faded and I could barely hear what sounded like a third signal in the background. Judging by everyone else's luck with KSL last night, it's probably what I was hearing too, but I just didn't have enough to positively ID it as such.
I haven't had a good start for my Winter '09-'10 AM DX season. Only three new ones in the logbook so far. None from beyond 300 miles. KSL is definitely at the top of my 'wish list' right now.
I haven't had a good start for my Winter '09-'10 AM DX season. Only three new ones in the logbook so far. None from beyond 300 miles. KSL is definitely at the top of my 'wish list' right now.
FYI: WVLG 640 is 24/7; I would imagine you would have to go at least 10 miles from their tower (near Lake Sumter Landing) to have a chance at receiving any other 640 and of course, the 640 out of Cuba comes in pretty well day and night as you get closer to the Gulf Coast, especially Clearwater and points south.
Where I am, the 640 out of Havana scans as a local day and night on my car radio; but my parents live about 29 miles south of The Villages and at night, I haven't been able to receive anything but WVLG with Havana giving WVLG a good run for their money....... although one night WGST 640 in Atlanta apparently didn't power down at sunset and I was receiving WVLG along with WGST and Havana in the background.
WVLG is only 860 watts at night, but I think they get more coverage out of that 860 watts than most stations would or do. They must have good grounding as well as a good engineering staff.
You may have to go to either north Tampa or Gainesville to have a decent shot at the 640 from out west.
drt
st. petersburg,fl
Where I am, the 640 out of Havana scans as a local day and night on my car radio; but my parents live about 29 miles south of The Villages and at night, I haven't been able to receive anything but WVLG with Havana giving WVLG a good run for their money....... although one night WGST 640 in Atlanta apparently didn't power down at sunset and I was receiving WVLG along with WGST and Havana in the background.
WVLG is only 860 watts at night, but I think they get more coverage out of that 860 watts than most stations would or do. They must have good grounding as well as a good engineering staff.
You may have to go to either north Tampa or Gainesville to have a decent shot at the 640 from out west.
drt
st. petersburg,fl
I don't know if we'll be getting to Tampa/Clearwater, Gar ; the Folks aren't very spry for a long drive these days .... although the house should see a bit of a reunion with folks FROM Tampa/Gulf Coast. Since I last visited FL, five people I know moved from Long Island to there, to nearby places such as Spring Hill, Inverness.
So most of the DX will be landlocked. Sneaking away to, say, Daytona is tempting, and probably do-able one afternoon, but up in these parts WBZ is considered a *pest*, hi. When we lived in NE Philly, they were often louder than KYW in broad afternoon daylight along 'the boulevard' -- Route 1 -- which is physically and georgraphically within the Philadelphia city limits.
I'd be more interesting in hearing stations from the *other* direction, with the Gulf acting as the water path. I can't remember the last time I heard a station from, say, Oklahoma or Texas .... well back into last century, at best.
So most of the DX will be landlocked. Sneaking away to, say, Daytona is tempting, and probably do-able one afternoon, but up in these parts WBZ is considered a *pest*, hi. When we lived in NE Philly, they were often louder than KYW in broad afternoon daylight along 'the boulevard' -- Route 1 -- which is physically and georgraphically within the Philadelphia city limits.
I'd be more interesting in hearing stations from the *other* direction, with the Gulf acting as the water path. I can't remember the last time I heard a station from, say, Oklahoma or Texas .... well back into last century, at best.
drt said:
640 is widely reported to be in Las Tunas province (the one Castro created out of the Western part of Oriente Province), not La Habana.
Steve Green NEPA said:
You got WBZ there during the DAY?
When I lived across the river in New Jersey, the only way to hear WBZ during the day was down to the shore where they had a pretty good signal on the barrier island.
As soon as we crossed the causeway to go home and reached the main land side of Barnegat Bay, WBZ was completely gone.
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