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KSWD - Nothing In the Vault

All this week KSWD (the Sound) has been promoting their dive into the Vault weekend in which they will be breaking out the old records and start spinning some cuts that don't get any airplay any more. So I get off work last night (Friday) a little after 6:00 and I anxiously tune to 100.3 to hear some great forgotten gems only to hear them playing..."I've Seen All Good People" by Yes. Good thing they're diving deep, otherwise they may not have made it past "Roundabout". So I dejectedly flip the channel to KCSN who is playing Carol King's "Been to Canaan". Wow, a deep cut* that truly hasn't been played for awhile! And hearing Carol's sweet voice on the radio is definitely a respite for sore ears. And KCSN doesn't even have to unlock a vault somewhere to find it.

So after awhile I turn back to KSWD to give them another chance, only to hear them playing Billy Idol's "Flesh For Fantasy". I guess that passes for a deep vault cut these days, after all it's not "White Wedding", but hardly the kind I had in mind, so I flip back to KCSN and (wow again) they're playing the great Leon Russell's "Back to the Island" from the mid-seventies. Now that is what I am talking about - a great song by a great artist that I haven't heard in years. Enjoyed it to pieces. I gave up on the Sound for the rest of the night and listened to some tasty stuff on the World Cafe for the rest of the ride home.

On my way into the office today I try the Sound one more time, only to hear them playing "Blister in the Sun" by the Violent Femmes, and now it becomes clear to me that this isn't the vault weekend I had in mind, instead it sounds like some sort of bad actual on-air test to figure out which songs Jack is playing that the Sound isn't which the PD should consider adding to move the needle on their ratings, which have flat-lined over the last several months (in spite of the huge opportunity they had to convert KLOS listeners this year when Mark and Brian left). Granted my sample is rather small and I am sure they are playing something closer to true gems over the weekend, perhaps once or twice an hour, but considering how short the actual on-air regular playlist is, you would think there would be plenty of interesting stuff to find in the vault - particularly one they actively promoted.

Last side note since I am on the topic of the Sound. Please ditch the morning show of Larry and Sherry. They have been together for several months and each day sounds like it is their first, as they struggle to find something relevant to say about the day's current events while trying ever-so-hard not to interfere with the music. Either have a show or play the music (I prefer the latter) but the interaction between these two can be painful to listen to sometimes. Yesterday's bit where they used tape of some singer making his picks for all four NFL games this week and making their remarks between each splice of tape airing his picks, and then agreeing with his picks afterward with nothing else to say on their own was a great example of this. Better to play "Lay Down Sally" again than to muddle through that.

*"Been to Canaan" is not a "deep cut" in the truest sense of the word, I believe it was a single and it is definitely on her greatest hits album, however it was a lesser hit and is not played very often, so it is a deep cut as I, and I think most programmers, would define the term.
 
KSWD is a sad story. The station was at its best at the beginning, when they were AAA and played unusual music, but I guess the audience decided they only wanted to hear the well-known hits.
 
I heard them play "She's A Lady" by Tom Jones, which I thought that was a curious choice. It's not a song one hears regularly so I guess that makes it one from the vault. However, it's not a song I would expect to hear on a Rock station of any kind.
 
In the past hour I've heard Billy Joel, Ringo Starr, Peter Gabriel, Lou Gramm, Jethro Tull, U2, Beatles, ZZ Top, Jo Jo Gunne, 10,000 Maniacs...can somebody answer a question for me? Is KSWD really supposed to be an "adult album alternative" station or are they just playing mid-1980s airchecks of KLOS and KMET?
 
LARadioRewind said:
In the past hour I've heard Billy Joel, Ringo Starr, Peter Gabriel, Lou Gramm, Jethro Tull, U2, Beatles, ZZ Top, Jo Jo Gunne, 10,000 Maniacs...can somebody answer a question for me? Is KSWD really supposed to be an "adult album alternative" station or are they just playing mid-1980s airchecks of KLOS and KMET?

Steve: It's been a couple of years since anybody at Bonneville referred to KSWD as AAA. Their current tagline is "Album Rock. True Variety." They occupy a middle between KLOS and Jack.
 
A lot of stations brag about "variety." Assuming there is no radio station that plays only one song over and over and over, don't all stations have "variety"?
 
LARadioRewind said:
A lot of stations brag about "variety." Assuming there is no radio station that plays only one song over and over and over, don't all stations have "variety"?

Steve: It's a deliberately vague marketing term. Like: "Now 22% more" (than what?) or "great new taste".
 
Don't get me started! On another forum I've posted many many stories about shrunk-down food products and deceptive advertising. Many brands of detergents have labels that tout, in large letters, "20% MORE" or "BONUS 25%" or something similar...and then when you read the microscopic print underneath, you find that what they're really saying is that the big size is bigger than the smaller size. Of course the manufacturers are hoping consumers will read only the large letters and buy the product, thinking they're getting an extra amount for free.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled KSWD discussion. Speaking of which, Mister hagerty mentioned Jack-FM. That's another station that started with a much wider variety of music than they have now. And Jack's predecessor, "Arrow 93," was similar: the original "rock'n'roll oldies" playlist included Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Grass Roots, Paul Revere & the Raiders and other pop acts but eventually they were all gone and Arrow 93 was playing the same songs as all the other classic-rock stations. Another example: KLAC went country in 1970 and played Bob Wills, Molly Bee, Spade Cooley, Webb Pierce, Gene Autry, Kitty Wells, Johnnie & Jack and other artists of the 1940s-50s---singles and album tracks---and gradually those songs disappeared; then most of the oldies played were top-ten hits, mostly from the previous 15 years. Are there ever stations that begin with a small oldies library and then expand it? Is it always large-to-small?
 
LARadioRewind said:
Don't get me started! On another forum I've posted many many stories about shrunk-down food products and deceptive advertising. Many brands of detergents have labels that tout, in large letters, "20% MORE" or "BONUS 25%" or something similar...and then when you read the microscopic print underneath, you find that what they're really saying is that the big size is bigger than the smaller size. Of course the manufacturers are hoping consumers will read only the large letters and buy the product, thinking they're getting an extra amount for free.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled KSWD discussion. Speaking of which, Mister hagerty mentioned Jack-FM. That's another station that started with a much wider variety of music than they have now. And Jack's predecessor, "Arrow 93," was similar: the original "rock'n'roll oldies" playlist included Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Grass Roots, Paul Revere & the Raiders and other pop acts but eventually they were all gone and Arrow 93 was playing the same songs as all the other classic-rock stations. Another example: KLAC went country in 1970 and played Bob Wills, Molly Bee, Spade Cooley, Webb Pierce, Gene Autry, Kitty Wells, Johnnie & Jack and other artists of the 1940s-50s---singles and album tracks---and gradually those songs disappeared; then most of the oldies played were top-ten hits, mostly from the previous 15 years. Are there ever stations that begin with a small oldies library and then expand it? Is it always large-to-small?

Almost never. More often you find you're playing records that the audience doesn't want to hear and that's doubling the problem because they also aren't hearing what you play that they do like...either because they tune out or because you ate 5, 10 or 15 of their 20 minutes with you playing the wrong songs.
 
KLAC launched their country format in 1970 with a Big 57 survey, matching their dial position, 57[0]. In 1984, after Metromedia sold the station to Capital Cities, most of the "hardcore" country songs were dropped and the survey was shortened to a measly 25 songs. After a few weeks, it was back up to 35.

How I miss the days of the Fabulous Forty, Top 50 Tunedex, Sizzlin' 60, and Silver Dollar Survey!
 
bossguy66 said:
KSWD is a sad story. The station was at its best at the beginning, when they were AAA and played unusual music, but I guess the audience decided they only wanted to hear the well-known hits.

In early 2009 or thereabouts they started to slowly convert the list from AAA to AAA/classic rock mix to all classic rock. The transition took several weeks, if not months, and towards the end it was a bit comical because they were completely classic rock with the sole exception being the Kings of Leon which they would play a couple of times a day for what seemed like a couple of months. And then the Kings finally departed right around the same time they added Judas Priest and a few other hard rock tracks to solidify their hard rock bona fides. Until then, they didn't play any hard rock acts unless it was their softer songs, like "Goin' to California" by Zeppelin.
 
Just for fun---and also because I was bored---I decided to listen to KSWD and see if there is any trace of the original "adult album alternative" format or if the station is now a clone of 1980s KLOS or 1990s KLSX. You can judge for yourself. Here, in alphabetical order and with chart positions included for all the music trivia freaks, are the last 20 songs played:

Beast Of Burden - Rolling Stones (8/1978)
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (9/1976, 2/1992)
Dancing In The Street - Van Halen (38/1982)
Empty Spaces - Pink Floyd (LP/1979)
Free Ride - Edgar Winter Group (14/1973)
Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix (B/1967)
I’d Love To Change The World - Ten Years After (40/1971)
Light My Fire - Doors (1/1967)
Live & Let Die- Paul McCartney/Wings (2/1973)
Love Plus One - Haircut One Hundred (37/1982)
Mercedes Benz - Janis Joplin (LP/1970, B/1971)
Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival (2/1969)
Swingtown - Steve Miller Band (17/1977)
Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out - Bruce Springsteen (83/1976)
The Boys Of Summer - Don Henley (5/1984)
The Wanton Song - Led Zeppelin (LP/1975)
Who’s Crying Now - Journey (4/1981)
You Better You Bet - Who (18/1981)
You Got Lucky - Tom Petty/Heartbreakers (20/1982)
Young Lust - Pink Floyd (LP/1979)
 
LARadioRewind said:
Just for fun---and also because I was bored---I decided to listen to KSWD and see if there is any trace of the original "adult album alternative" format or if the station is now a clone of 1980s KLOS or 1990s KLSX. You can judge for yourself. Here, in alphabetical order and with chart positions included for all the music trivia freaks, are the last 20 songs played:

Beast Of Burden - Rolling Stones (8/1978)
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (9/1976, 2/1992)
Dancing In The Street - Van Halen (38/1982)
Empty Spaces - Pink Floyd (LP/1979)
Free Ride - Edgar Winter Group (14/1973)
Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix (B/1967)
I’d Love To Change The World - Ten Years After (40/1971)
Light My Fire - Doors (1/1967)
Live & Let Die- Paul McCartney/Wings (2/1973)
Love Plus One - Haircut One Hundred (37/1982)
Mercedes Benz - Janis Joplin (LP/1970, B/1971)
Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival (2/1969)
Swingtown - Steve Miller Band (17/1977)
Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out - Bruce Springsteen (83/1976)
The Boys Of Summer - Don Henley (5/1984)
The Wanton Song - Led Zeppelin (LP/1975)
Who’s Crying Now - Journey (4/1981)
You Better You Bet - Who (18/1981)
You Got Lucky - Tom Petty/Heartbreakers (20/1982)
Young Lust - Pink Floyd (LP/1979)


What? no Brown-Eyed Girl? HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!
 
LARadioRewind said:
Just for fun---and also because I was bored---I decided to listen to KSWD and see if there is any trace of the original "adult album alternative" format or if the station is now a clone of 1980s KLOS or 1990s KLSX. You can judge for yourself. Here, in alphabetical order and with chart positions included for all the music trivia freaks, are the last 20 songs played:

Beast Of Burden - Rolling Stones (8/1978)
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (9/1976, 2/1992)
Dancing In The Street - Van Halen (38/1982)
Empty Spaces - Pink Floyd (LP/1979)
Free Ride - Edgar Winter Group (14/1973)
Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix (B/1967)
I’d Love To Change The World - Ten Years After (40/1971)
Light My Fire - Doors (1/1967)
Live & Let Die- Paul McCartney/Wings (2/1973)
Love Plus One - Haircut One Hundred (37/1982)
Mercedes Benz - Janis Joplin (LP/1970, B/1971)
Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival (2/1969)
Swingtown - Steve Miller Band (17/1977)
Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out - Bruce Springsteen (83/1976)
The Boys Of Summer - Don Henley (5/1984)
The Wanton Song - Led Zeppelin (LP/1975)
Who’s Crying Now - Journey (4/1981)
You Better You Bet - Who (18/1981)
You Got Lucky - Tom Petty/Heartbreakers (20/1982)
Young Lust - Pink Floyd (LP/1979)

No trace of AAA...but a pretty good list. I'd rather have seen it in the order played to get a sense of the flow, but just based on titles, I can see how they've gained on KLOS.
 
Those songs were followed by Bad Company, Beautiful Day, Dream Weaver, Evil Ways and What's Your Name---the one by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Did anyone really think they'd play the one by Don & Juan? Shoobadeedoo-poppa-doo!
 
TXCalradio said:
No "Jack & Diane" either! Ha Ha. If I hear that played-out, burned-out song again, I'll hurl myself off the nearest canyon!

;) How do you hurl yourself off a canyon?


... in to, maybe.
 
He stands on the shoulders of comic-strip legend Steve Canyon and then jumps. :D
 
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't KSWD a commercial profit oriented station and KCSN is non-profit and non-commercial?
 
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