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KTAR-FM 92.3 - Monday 18th
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desertv
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O freakin joy....Captain Stupor and "is it raining where you are" in beautiful stereo :
KOHS said:
Given the age of their audience, maybe it should be "The place where hip-replacement talk lives." ;D
Hopefully, TMISU will wise up, give Gerald and Paul Harrrrrrveyyyyyyy the boot and let Clear Channel put them on KOY where they belong. Geezer-talk is out of place on FM, especially one that aims to be the pre-eminent news station in Phoenix.
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username1
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The KT'R Lovefest returns. Goody. Had missed it.
Putting a News/Talk on FM.
To quote Bob Mould, "makes NO sense at all."
To quote Bob Mould, "makes NO sense at all."
salad dressing said:
Makes a lot of sense--
FM...no static at all. ("FM" 1978.)
Plus, penetration into office buildings (not that Edna from Sun City and
her broken toaster at 9:45am would be, uh, penetrating listening ;D).
Even in buildings where AM might penetrate--have you tried listening
to an AM radio which sits in proximity to your CPU or monitor?
Not everyone is able to tie up company bandwith all day listening
to the KT'R stream.
And just think of the stereo possibilities: Pat doing a P.F. Chang's
spot in the left channel and a Ky-Ko spot in the right channel...
at the same time!
From the "this just in department"--some snooping on the FCC site
reveals that on September 8 TMISU filed a request for the calls KTAR-FM.
I know I'll be listening on Monday to see 1) if they got approval prior to
day one, and 2) if they can do a simulcast legal ID correctly. It's been
hinted to them enough here on the Tanim Board, however I still hear
it being done incorrectly on their flagship KSL.
One more time, Mr. PDISU:
KTAR Phoenix
KTAR-FM Glendale/Phoenix
In either order. And none of that "AM & FM" stuff!
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zumahans
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oldiesfan6479 said:
Why not KTAR AM and FM, Glendale/Phoenix?
AM-FM combos for years got away with that, back when Uncle Charlie was a lot more persnickety.
I remember "KUPD AM and FM Tempe-Phoenix" for years was acceptable, back before they split the FM off as K-100, despite its dial position at 97.9.
KTAR-FM Glendale, KTAR Phoenix.
zumahans said:
We probably need Scott Fybush to chime in on this, as there are some
gray areas...and there have been a number of past discussions on the
board re legal IDs, but...
"AM" is not part of the legal calls of any AM station.
620 is licensed as "KTAR Phoenix."
92.3 is (will be) licensed as "KTAR-FM Glendale" (but any city can be
added after the COL which must be stated first).
Previous posts have noted that each station must be IDed separately,
not both lumped together--although I will stipulate that I cannot find
any mention of AM/FM simulcast ID verbiage in FCC part 73.1201.
I did however find a new player in what you can insert between the
calls and COL, in additition to the licensee name, frequency and/or
channel number. A revision on 10/01/2005 added "network affiliation"
but it doesn't specify how one would state said affiliation.
Oh, and Hans--no jokes about "what you can insert between..."
Save that for your banter with DavidE ;D
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azenergyfan
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I can not believe you people are discussing how the legal id should come across the airwaves on monday the 18th. My god what has happened!!! Its a frikkin ID. YIKES
KTAR Makes the Move to 92.3 FM on Sept. 18
PHOENIX (Sept. 14, 2006) – Beginning Monday, Sept. 18, at 12:01 a.m., Valley listeners can get their
news/talk programming on 92.3 FM.
For decades, KTAR has been the state’s leader in providing news, traffic, weather, sports, and the best
local talk shows on the radio. Now its nearly 500,000 listeners can access uninterrupted coverage on
another frequency with a higher-quality signal, making it easier to pick up in offices and buildings.
“On Monday, Sept. 18, KTAR will make the historic change to the FM dial,” said Erik Hellum, vice president
and market manager of KTAR. “The future of news is on FM and we are excited to be the first to make the
move.”
Hellum invites Arizonans to visit ktar.com to learn more about the station’s transformation and contribute
ideas.
“We have become a leader in the industry by making strategic decisions that set us apart from the
competition,” said Drew Horowitz, regional senior vice president of Bonneville International Corporation,
parent company of KTAR. “By taking steps to create a larger footprint in the market, the Phoenix
community will benefit from our growth and expansion.”
KTAR will simulcast its programming on 92.3 FM and 620 AM. Then, in January 2007, KTAR will offer a 24-
hour, all-sports format at 620 AM and all-news/talk/weather and traffic at 92.3 FM.
About KTAR
KTAR was Arizona’s first radio station and continues to have the state’s largest radio audience. The
station was founded more than 80 years ago, and it has been an indelible part of the Arizona landscape
ever since. KTAR is considered a trusted source for local, national, business and breaking news, along with
traffic and weather. The station also is the place for sports, serving as the radio home of the Arizona
Cardinals and Arizona Diamondbacks, as well as the Phoenix Suns and Arizona State University. For more
information, visit KTAR.COM.
About Bonneville
Bonneville International is a dynamic and diversified media company with television, radio, broadcasting,
advertising, and satellite operations in the top markets across the U.S., including Chicago, San Francisco,
Washington, D.C., Phoenix, St. Louis, and Salt Lake City, where it is headquartered.
Known not only as a leader in the industry but also as a values-driven company, Bonneville’s mission is to
"Make a Difference" in the communities where it operates. Bonneville has become a national leader in
providing quality, values-oriented media products.
- KTAR.COM -
PHOENIX (Sept. 14, 2006) – Beginning Monday, Sept. 18, at 12:01 a.m., Valley listeners can get their
news/talk programming on 92.3 FM.
For decades, KTAR has been the state’s leader in providing news, traffic, weather, sports, and the best
local talk shows on the radio. Now its nearly 500,000 listeners can access uninterrupted coverage on
another frequency with a higher-quality signal, making it easier to pick up in offices and buildings.
“On Monday, Sept. 18, KTAR will make the historic change to the FM dial,” said Erik Hellum, vice president
and market manager of KTAR. “The future of news is on FM and we are excited to be the first to make the
move.”
Hellum invites Arizonans to visit ktar.com to learn more about the station’s transformation and contribute
ideas.
“We have become a leader in the industry by making strategic decisions that set us apart from the
competition,” said Drew Horowitz, regional senior vice president of Bonneville International Corporation,
parent company of KTAR. “By taking steps to create a larger footprint in the market, the Phoenix
community will benefit from our growth and expansion.”
KTAR will simulcast its programming on 92.3 FM and 620 AM. Then, in January 2007, KTAR will offer a 24-
hour, all-sports format at 620 AM and all-news/talk/weather and traffic at 92.3 FM.
About KTAR
KTAR was Arizona’s first radio station and continues to have the state’s largest radio audience. The
station was founded more than 80 years ago, and it has been an indelible part of the Arizona landscape
ever since. KTAR is considered a trusted source for local, national, business and breaking news, along with
traffic and weather. The station also is the place for sports, serving as the radio home of the Arizona
Cardinals and Arizona Diamondbacks, as well as the Phoenix Suns and Arizona State University. For more
information, visit KTAR.COM.
About Bonneville
Bonneville International is a dynamic and diversified media company with television, radio, broadcasting,
advertising, and satellite operations in the top markets across the U.S., including Chicago, San Francisco,
Washington, D.C., Phoenix, St. Louis, and Salt Lake City, where it is headquartered.
Known not only as a leader in the industry but also as a values-driven company, Bonneville’s mission is to
"Make a Difference" in the communities where it operates. Bonneville has become a national leader in
providing quality, values-oriented media products.
- KTAR.COM -
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zumahans
Guest
The FCC specifically allows a station to insert its band and frequency between call letters and city of license.
And, the name of its owner.
KTAR AM would be perfectly legal to say "KTAR, Prophet Moroni Broadcasting, AM 620, Phoenix."
EDITED:Betcha they say, legally,
Voice 1: KTAR
Voice 2: AM 620 Phoenix
Voice 1: FM 92.3 Glendale
Voice 2: and all of Arizona.
And, the name of its owner.
KTAR AM would be perfectly legal to say "KTAR, Prophet Moroni Broadcasting, AM 620, Phoenix."
EDITED:Betcha they say, legally,
Voice 1: KTAR
Voice 2: AM 620 Phoenix
Voice 1: FM 92.3 Glendale
Voice 2: and all of Arizona.
Betcha they say "KTAR-FM Glendale, KTAR Phoenix"
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MASTER_CONTROL
Guest
KTAR AM/FM, GLENDALE/PHOENIX
it doesn't matter anyway. ..kfnx hasn't had a proper legal id in years.
KTAR AM/FM, GLENDALE/PHOENIX, A SERVICE OF BONNEVILLE INTERNATIONAL
pumpin tha wattage into your cottage
it doesn't matter anyway. ..kfnx hasn't had a proper legal id in years.
KTAR AM/FM, GLENDALE/PHOENIX, A SERVICE OF BONNEVILLE INTERNATIONAL
pumpin tha wattage into your cottage
zumahans said:
I agree that "AM" as part of stating the frequency (AM 620 or 620 AM) is legal
within the legal, but not "AM" as a standalone remark followed by either the COL
or IDing the FM side.
zumahans said:
I still go with the theory that each station in a simulcast ID must be IDed
separately and distinctly, not lumped together--and even more so when
the COLs are not the same.
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zumahans
Guest
No way.
Back in the '70s, it was "KMEO AM and FM, Phoenix." "KUPD AM and FM Tempe Phoenix." "KBUZ AM and FM Mesa-Phoenix."
And that was then the FCC cared, and IDs were required twice an hour.
Back in the '70s, it was "KMEO AM and FM, Phoenix." "KUPD AM and FM Tempe Phoenix." "KBUZ AM and FM Mesa-Phoenix."
And that was then the FCC cared, and IDs were required twice an hour.
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zumahans
Guest
Code of Federal Regulations sec. 73
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and
(2) hourly, as close to the hour as feasible, at a natural break in program offerings.
Television broadcast stations may make these announcements visually or aurally.
(b) Content.
(1) Official station identification shall consist of the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or communities specified in its license as the station's location: Provided, That the name of the licensee or the station's frequency or channel number, or both, as stated on the station's license may be inserted between the call letters and station location. No other insertion is permissible.
(2) A station may include in its official station identification the name of any additional community or communities, but the community to which the station is licensed must be named first.
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(1) General. Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, in making the identification announcement the call letters shall be given only on the channel identified thereby.
(2) Simultaneous AM (535-1605 kHz) and AM (1605-1705 kHz) broadcasts. If the same licensee operates an AM broadcast station in the 535-1605 kHz band an AM broadcast station in the 1605-1705 kHz band with both stations licensed to the same community and simultaneously broadcasts the same programs over the facilities of both such stations, station identification may be made jointly for both stations for such periods of simultaneous operation.
Sec. 73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and
(2) hourly, as close to the hour as feasible, at a natural break in program offerings.
Television broadcast stations may make these announcements visually or aurally.
(b) Content.
(1) Official station identification shall consist of the station's call letters immediately followed by the community or communities specified in its license as the station's location: Provided, That the name of the licensee or the station's frequency or channel number, or both, as stated on the station's license may be inserted between the call letters and station location. No other insertion is permissible.
(2) A station may include in its official station identification the name of any additional community or communities, but the community to which the station is licensed must be named first.
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(1) General. Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, in making the identification announcement the call letters shall be given only on the channel identified thereby.
(2) Simultaneous AM (535-1605 kHz) and AM (1605-1705 kHz) broadcasts. If the same licensee operates an AM broadcast station in the 535-1605 kHz band an AM broadcast station in the 1605-1705 kHz band with both stations licensed to the same community and simultaneously broadcasts the same programs over the facilities of both such stations, station identification may be made jointly for both stations for such periods of simultaneous operation.
zumahans said:
Way. ;D
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