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KTAR host explains...
- Thread starter buster2
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Yes. Thank you. If you want to hear the majority of callers repeating the same points the hosts say, or utterly stupid stuff, because they can get on the radio, there's KFYI for that.
KFYI got 4.4 for July.
KTAR got 2.8.
A for-profit company should be less concerned with what sounds "utterly stupid" than with the quarterly results they can report to shareholders. I (and 300,000 other people in this market) find those "utterly stupid" calls more entertaining than sub-par, wannabe-vaudeville acts like Mac & Cheese.
KTAR got 2.8.
A for-profit company should be less concerned with what sounds "utterly stupid" than with the quarterly results they can report to shareholders. I (and 300,000 other people in this market) find those "utterly stupid" calls more entertaining than sub-par, wannabe-vaudeville acts like Mac & Cheese.
If you're going with the freebie numbers, don't forget to look at cume.
And I wouldn't label Bonneville as "for-profit" as if that's their only mission in the product they create; that would be an inaccurate statement.
Just as you enjoy phone calls, there are many of us who find them annoying. Ride the bus if you want to get your fill on what nutty ideas people have... LOL
And I wouldn't label Bonneville as "for-profit" as if that's their only mission in the product they create; that would be an inaccurate statement.
Just as you enjoy phone calls, there are many of us who find them annoying. Ride the bus if you want to get your fill on what nutty ideas people have... LOL
Sorry, but Doug's explanation doesn't make sense. KFYI takes phone calls---at least on some limited level and they have superior numbers to KTAR.
Talk radio thrives on the give and take, not simply some host bloviating talking points or shtick. Listeners want to feel like they can weigh in on topics as well, if they don't feel involved then why listen? After all, I thought the purpose of terrestrial radio was to "serve the community".
I know the people on this board like to spout the same tired jokes about Edna in Sun City and say most callers aren't very articulate, but isn't that what a phone screener is for? I hear many shows with quality callers that have a point on all forms of talk radio. I'd rather hear some give-and-take from callers than hosts trying to fill time with their own unobstructed agendas.
Talk radio without callers or interaction grows tiresome very quickly, especially during breaking news events. KTAR has been a running joke for some time now. We know that it's pretty humiliating when national pundits ask a host at KTAR "what's been the listener's reaction to [insert story here]?" and the host stares blankly as if he was just asked to explain Zeno's paradox. Oh, wait, they do read a few tweets on the air or a facebook message... nevermind that they either a) agree totally with the host/make the host look better or b) the listener really has no way of knowing if they're real or not. I have no problem with the idae of integrating social media into a talk show, but this market was already a lame place for local talk and KTAR has only made matters worse.
Imagine a message board where you couldn't reply to threads, instead it was just one opinion. You have a discussion with your friends and only one person is allowed to talk. Give me a break, take some callers KTAR... especially KTAR-AM... sports talk without callers, how uninteresting is that? Why trust a host on the station that airs the Diamondbacks to give me an objective opinion regarding the team? Especially when that host no longer takes phone calls and their opinion goes completely unchallenged.
Doesn't anyone on this board actually think about these points?
Talk radio thrives on the give and take, not simply some host bloviating talking points or shtick. Listeners want to feel like they can weigh in on topics as well, if they don't feel involved then why listen? After all, I thought the purpose of terrestrial radio was to "serve the community".
I know the people on this board like to spout the same tired jokes about Edna in Sun City and say most callers aren't very articulate, but isn't that what a phone screener is for? I hear many shows with quality callers that have a point on all forms of talk radio. I'd rather hear some give-and-take from callers than hosts trying to fill time with their own unobstructed agendas.
Talk radio without callers or interaction grows tiresome very quickly, especially during breaking news events. KTAR has been a running joke for some time now. We know that it's pretty humiliating when national pundits ask a host at KTAR "what's been the listener's reaction to [insert story here]?" and the host stares blankly as if he was just asked to explain Zeno's paradox. Oh, wait, they do read a few tweets on the air or a facebook message... nevermind that they either a) agree totally with the host/make the host look better or b) the listener really has no way of knowing if they're real or not. I have no problem with the idae of integrating social media into a talk show, but this market was already a lame place for local talk and KTAR has only made matters worse.
Imagine a message board where you couldn't reply to threads, instead it was just one opinion. You have a discussion with your friends and only one person is allowed to talk. Give me a break, take some callers KTAR... especially KTAR-AM... sports talk without callers, how uninteresting is that? Why trust a host on the station that airs the Diamondbacks to give me an objective opinion regarding the team? Especially when that host no longer takes phone calls and their opinion goes completely unchallenged.
Doesn't anyone on this board actually think about these points?
KMGX said:
Well, let me think about my own listening habits. For the record, I'm 41.
I stopped listening to political talk radio a few years ago. It's boring listening to callers and hosts recite talking points. Maybe the true believers like the taste of the Kool-Aid, but it bores me to tears.
I do listen to sports talk quite a bit during the week, usually on the way to work and sometimes on the way home. The hosts I listen to talk to each other, they do interviews, and they read tweets most of the time. What makes me hit the button to go back to music?
1. When they talk about golf.
2. When they take a call, especially if it's one of the show's "regulars" who is calling to pump up his favorite team and take shots at his rivals. It's boring. It's predictable. I don't learn anything. It's to the point that when they promote that they're going to take a call from one of their regulars when they come back from break that I punch out and don't come back for about 30 minutes.
Now the tweets they read during the show are awesome. They're usually funny (if you want your tweet to make the cut, humor is good) and they're to the point. 140 characters makes people get to the point right away.
I can't think of a time I've listened to a talk show in the past 5 years when a caller said anything worth repeating.
KOOL Listener Lauren said:
KFWhyEye is cumeing up, while K-Tweet-AR is going down. What does that prove?...dunno, but the Nurse and I use the numbers to make any point we'd like!
...or read the comments on this thread - just as nutty
Although we agree that most of the time Aunt Edna makes far more sense than the annoying Dumb & Dumber!KMGX said:
Exactly. Talk radio without call-ins simply isn't "talk radio." If you don't like it, don't listen to it, but some of us who find those Aunt Edna call-ins from Sun City pretty darn entertaining (fitfully amusing in some cases) have watched in dismay as the once-legendary KTAR killed its phone line and subsequently gets its butt handed to them by Clear Channel every month. The station of Glenn Beck and the Nearly Bald One gets to be the one "real" talk radio in this town? That's just wrong. And I'm perplexed why it doesn't bother more people.
Dr. Akbar said:
It proves killing the phone lines to look "respectable" was a terrible business decision that cost the station listeners who fled to KJZZ and KFYI. That's what it proves. It's ok for Ramsey to take call-ins, but no local call-ins? I don't understand that rationale.
KFYI's the one "real" talk radio station in this market, thanks to KTAR's killing off call-ins. That's just wrong.
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