KTAR vs. KFYI: Who wins?

[KOHS]

I'm sure we have had simillar discussions before, but it might be interesting to do it again, especially now that Mac and Gaydos are paired together in the afternoons.

Here is how I see it:

Morning Drive

Advantage KTAR. More traffic/weather/news. That said, I am good for about 15 minutes (or less) of Crazy Ned and Connie and then I have to switch over to KUPD.

Barry vs. Darrell

Barry, by a mile! Of course, if it were Austin vs. Barry, I would have to take Austin.

Rush vs. Beck

Rush wins, hands down. Beck is too new to Phoenix, tape delayed and doesn't have the name recognition that Rush does. That is changing, of course. Beck has a show on Fox News and is wisely putting Phoenix on the list of cities for his "comedy" tour.

Hannity vs. Beck

Hannity easily wins this one.

JD vs. Mac & Gaydos

Say what you will about JD's politics, he is a skilled orator/broadcaster and knows his stuff. Mac & Gaydos sound like two neighborhood boys talking on the radio. It's funny for the first 30 seconds and then I am back at KFYI.


Savage vs. Crummey

Toss-up. Both are equally evil. ;D


Your thoughts? Derisions?

 

[catfish]

For me I listen to neither station. Static is better, I do listen to news on XM

 

[asugeorge1]

I would have to say KTAR hands down. Their local news and traffic reports blow KFYI out of the water. I also prefer local talk show hosts and KTAR has more than KFYI. KFYI is just too boring for me.

I actually liked the early days of KTAR-FM when from 5:00 A.M. to 12:00 A.M. you had all local personalities. Now you got nationally-syndicated guys like Beck at noon and crazy Phil Hendrie at ten. I could definitely do without those guys, especially Phil! : Remember when you had Paul Harvey news and comment, Pat McMahon in the afternoons, the afternoon news with Ted and Heidi at 4:00 P.M., Kid Stevens at 7:00 P.M. and then Gaydos from "Nine to midnight, Nine to midnight because that's how he rolls?" I still prefer that lineup over the one they got now mainly because there was more news and more local personalities.

 

[DrAkbar]

Morning Drive

Advantage KTAR. More traffic/weather/news. That said, I am good for about 15 minutes (or less) of Crazy Ned and Connie and then I have to switch over to KUPD.

If you're into talk radio, it's gotta be Bruce Jacobs. For those who need an info fix, KT'R by the length of the snail rail.

Barry vs. Darrell

Barry, by a mile! Of course, if it were Austin vs. Barry, I would have to take Austin.

The Nearly Bald One beats anyone KT'R can put up against him. He's truly the "I" in Team at KFWhyEye!

Rush vs. Beck

Rush wins, hands down. Beck is too new to Phoenix, tape delayed and doesn't have the name recognition that Rush does. That is changing, of course. Beck has a show on Fox News and is wisely putting Phoenix on the list of cities for his "comedy" tour.

El Rushbo's final hour is superior to Beck's first.

Hannity vs. Beck

Hannity easily wins this one.

Beck is a nice relief to three more hours of Hannity's haranguing. He's won us over after 1pm.

JD vs. Mac & Gaydos

Say what you will about JD's politics, he is a skilled orator/broadcaster and knows his stuff. Mac & Gaydos sound like two neighborhood boys talking on the radio. It's funny for the first 30 seconds and then I am back at KFYI.

Ever notice how Dumber & Dumbest repeat the same lame bits in the 5 o'clock hour they used in the 3 o'clock hour? JD Loudmouth is annoying, but more on target with his station's conservative audience.

Savage vs. Crummey

Toss-up. Both are equally evil. ;D

Yeah, but Joe Crummey can still travel to England!


You forgot Coast To Coast UFOs vs Phil Hendrie Both kinda boring...especially since Bobbie Dooley hasn't been on in a while!

 

[KeithE4]

I'm sure we have had simillar discussions before, but it might be interesting to do it again, especially now that Mac and Gaydos are paired together in the afternoons.

Here is how I see it:

Morning Drive

Advantage KTAR. More traffic/weather/news. That said, I am good for about 15 minutes (or less) of Crazy Ned and Connie and then I have to switch over to KUPD.

Between the two, definitely KTAR, but Doug & Wolf are what I listen to (and even then I switch to 910 or 1060 if they get to be too much in the BS department). I'd listen to Jacobs if he was the morning guy on XTRA 910, but on KFYI, he's as bad as Windbag, and even less informed about the issues.

Barry vs. Darrell

Barry, by a mile! Of course, if it were Austin vs. Barry, I would have to take Austin.

Barry's been phoning it in for several years. If I was near a radio at that time, I'd be listening to Arnie Spanier (can't handle much of Colin "Mr. Frontrunner" Cowherd either). ;D

Rush vs. Beck

Rush wins, hands down. Beck is too new to Phoenix, tape delayed and doesn't have the name recognition that Rush does. That is changing, of course. Beck has a show on Fox News and is wisely putting Phoenix on the list of cities for his "comedy" tour.

Limbaugh still has his moments, but his best days were 10 years ago. He proved last year that he is not really a conservative anymore - his job is to elect Republicans. Beck isn't worth a damn.

Hannity vs. Beck

Hannity easily wins this one.

Gambo & Ash. Neither of the above-mentioned clowns is getting any time on my radio.

JD vs. Mac & Gaydos

Say what you will about JD's politics, he is a skilled orator/broadcaster and knows his stuff. Mac & Gaydos sound like two neighborhood boys talking on the radio. It's funny for the first 30 seconds and then I am back at KFYI.

Myself and others in the 5th District pulled a "Wonderful Russ" on Mr. Windbag for good reason - we weren't happy so we fired him. I'm still not happy, but unfortunately I can't fire him from KFYI. He's just as useless as a talk-show host as he was a Congress-critter.

As far as those buffoons on KTAR, that timeslot needs to be all-news.

Savage vs. Crummey

Toss-up. Both are equally evil. ;D

Both equally stink. In fact, Savage should be deported to England . That's why we have sports on TV and the internets. ;D

 

[KOHS]

You forgot Coast To Coast UFOs vs Phil Hendrie Both kinda boring...especially since Bobbie Dooley hasn't been on in a while!

How could I forget the UFO show? D'oh!! I still miss Frank Baranowski's show on KT'R. On that basis alone, I vote for the UFO show. ;D

 

[oldiesfan6479]

Rush vs. Beck
Rush wins, hands down. Beck is too new to Phoenix, tape delayed and doesn't have the name recognition that Rush does.

While the Beckster is our six-hour rain delay, remember that for eight months
of the year El Rushbo is also delayed (one hour). OTOH, KFYI's triple-A team
in Tucson (KNST) airs Barack's worst nightmare ;D live.

And speaking of 55/FYI...their I-CRAP has been off for at least a few days.
Co-owned AMs KGME 910 and KOY 1230 are still running it.

 

[landtuna]

KTAR vs. KFYI: Who wins?

Who cares? ;D

 

[KOHS]

KTAR vs. KFYI: Who wins?

Who cares? ;D

No soup for you!

 

[Wildstyle K]

It's very difficult to choose between KFYI and KTAR.

KTAR has that advantage of being on FM, so you can get it clearly pretty much anytime, and on all portable players that have am/fm, or ONLY fm, like my Zune.

However, KFYI is more direct when it comes to logical and common sense talk, but sometimes too much is too much, especially in a world where many people cannot understand logic. At least the ratings speak for themselves, showing that Phoenix is predominantly populated with intelligently thinking people.. ("thinking" being the emphasized word, with "intelligently" making it more specific and weeding out some people). I doubt that the station would have the same success in certain regions within this country... but that's drifting into another unrelated topic. I'm sure that certain programming techniques they use also play a large role in attracting and keeping listeners as well. KFYI's biggest personality advantages are Barry Young and George Noory (and I personally like Handel on The Law, too - not sure what the ratings for that show are though).

KFYI is the best news/straight talk station, while KTAR is more laid back entertainment (more entertaining with variety topics) with a mixture of debatable topics, some logic, some news, silliness, and other stuff. I'm not sure which people on KTAR are their biggest advantages since I'm still fairly new to that station, but they pretty much are at the least alright to listen to at anytime, whenever I randomly choose to tune in.

I guess if there were some reality show where I had to pick one station to live on and the other to forever be banished, it would have to be a coin toss... followed by another one.... then another, because I would never be able to pick one. I'd rather say it would be better to keep certain programs/people from both stations and put them all together in one. I do have to admit that I've been giving KTAR much more attention during these past few months though. They are both good for when you want radio, but don't care for the music stations at a particular point in time.

 

[Legend City]

Morning drive...I'm asleep, don't like happy morning chat, but it beats the hell out of that oaf Bruce Jacobs...KTAR (listening to Arnie Spanier this week, he sounds good!)

Darrell vs Barry Barry by 10X, the gulf is so big I'm giving KFYI bonus points

Rush vs Beck, idiot versus idiot, I'm conservative and I can't stand either of them, 1100 gets the win with Neal Boortz

Hannity vs Beck, Hannity hasn't had an original thought in years, Beck is just a clown. I tune to Medved, except when he talks creationism..uhhhhggg.

JD vs Mac and Gaydos, damn, high pitch squealings from a former fatcat politician who got his ass handed to him, or juvenile hijinks from the Hardy boys? In this case, the Ipod wins.

Savage vs Crummey, Michael Weiner/Savage is everything that is wrong with talk radio, it is loud and stupid for loud and stupid people, I like my cartoons animated. Crummey, still kicks ass, a good guy, although, a lot of his "outrage" tends to be a bit too contrived, but, that's talk radio.

Coast to Coast vs Phil Hendrie, I once liked Coast to Coast with Art Bell, I thought it was harmless, but, it really is a conduit for the most ignorant and stupid people to spin every implausible conspiracy theory around, its actually dangerous now, because it gives a forum to complete wackjobs and is a mockery of anything intellectual or scientific. Its gone from spooky stories around the campfire to just batsh** nuttery. Phil, I love Phil, sure, he is not as funny as the old days when he had a staff to help write his schtick, but the comedy is still good, Bud Dickman always cracks me up, and his political rants are refreshing, I don't agree with him on a whole lot, but he is more real about it, and is more real about how so many guys in radio are complete frauds (Gallagher, Reagan, Savage, Beck, Limbaugh, Rhodes, Ingraham)


So, its a tie, Crummey and Hendrie make KTAR listenable, Barry makes KFYI listenable, and Boortz, Dennis Miller and Hewitt (along with sports) fill in the gaps.

 

[youn]

Morning: KTAR-at least some news and info vs. Jacobs and his few listeners which=dumb and hopelessly dumb.

Barry: Too painful to listen to Cruella's horrible overbite. However, if you missed Barry a couple of years ago, tune in, you can pick up right where he left off and not have missed a thing.

-Until JD ya may as well have sat.

JD: If you enjoyed freaks at the state fairs years ago, tune in here, they all found a home.

Uhh, pass on the rest. ;D

 

[DrAkbar]

It's very difficult to choose between KFYI and KTAR.

KTAR has that advantage of being on FM, so you can get it clearly pretty much anytime, and on all portable players that have am/fm, or ONLY fm, like my Zune.

But KFWhyEye is kinda sorta on FM: HD-2 @ 102~Five. The Nurse and I bet TMISU are sweatin' that move :

 

[Bug on the rug]

JD's a three-trick pony who's only redeemable trait is mimicing Meghan McCain's dad.

 

[dhett]

If I have AM, then KFYI usually wins. But since AM reception is crap in my sedan, KTAR gets a lot of play.

Early AM: KTAR - While I often agree with Jacobs politically, he doesn't have the intellect and tries to compensate by being loud and obnoxious. The constant name-calling is both annoying and unnecessary.

Mid AM: KFYI - Barry Young does a good job mixing politics with entertainment. Has a tendency to overtease - I've started my commute with him beginning to tell a story and by the time I got to work 30-40 min. later, he still hasn't gotten to the story. He doesn't score well against informed callers who disagree with him. Michelle can be annoying at times. Bebinski has a pretty good sense of comedy. Ankarlo is usually good when discussing weighty topics, such as politics, but doesn't do particularly well challenging opposing callers when they make no sense or have blatant factual errors. Sometimes tries to hard to be nice. Too many shows deal with puff topics, hence my Fairness Doctrine Radio label.

Late AM: KFYI - Rush is the king. Topical and entertaining. You may not agree with his viewpoint, but he knows how to keep a show engaging. This may surprise many, but he's especially adept with callers who don't agree with him. He seldom yells at them or insults them. Beck is an up-and-comer, but still has a way to go.

Early PM: KFYI - Rush, hands down and Hannity by a lesser margin. Beck is at his best when discussing topics such as the 9/12 Project or We Surround Them, but has a tendency to yell, and regardless of whether it's real or put-on, it makes him sound dumb. See Bruce Jacobs.

Mid PM: Slightest advantage to KFYI. I used to think of Hannity as "Rush without the edge", but since about 2006, Hannity has turned up the vitriol, to his detriment. When he does, I'd rather listen to Beck's rants - at least Beck is fresh. Like Beck, Hannity is at his best when discussing lofty ideals and at his worst when angry.

PM drive: KFYI. I think the line from Wayne's World sums up Mac & Gaydos nicely, where video arcade owner Vanderhoff gives his first reaction to Wayne and Garth's show: "I think it's two chimps on a davenport in a basement." Hayworth is a whole lot smarter than he sounds, but his anger seems contrived at times. Even so, he's at his best when under control and unbearable when he loses his cool and turns into Bruce Jacobs with a southern accent.

Evening: KTAR by a nose. Crummey is entertaining and sometimes informative. Savage is informative, but often lives up (down?) to his name.

Late night: Hendrie could do well, but I remember his shows from about 5 years ago that KFYI used to carry. I can never be sure whether his opinion is genuine or if he's just screwing with the audience. I suppose I could enjoy Coast to Coast more if I believed in the paranormal. Break out the CDs/MP3s.

 

[KTARSUCKSdotCOM]

KTAR vs. KFYI: Who wins?

Who cares? ;D

Exactly!

 

[youn]

KTAR vs. KFYI: Who wins?

Who cares? ;D

Exactly!

Hello Bruce...

 

[j henry waugh]

There really isn't anything redeeming or edifying about much of either station's programming, outside of some weekend shows, like Jay's on the weekend.

Intelligent discussion? More like discussing algebra with a poo flinging chimp…

 

[KOHS]

There really isn't anything redeeming or edifying about much of either station's programming, outside of some weekend shows, like Jay's on the weekend.

waugh:

I will happily agree with you about Jay's weekend show. He does a good job.

 

[DrAkbar]

I will happily agree with you about Jay's weekend show. He does a good job.

But he's just not as juevenile as Dumber & Dumbest in PMD