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KTRB-860 to debut with Talk Format on March 15TH!

jestin said:
Talking Furniture said:
The ratings at Free may have been bad but they were posting ratings when he was with them. They were a NEW station also. John was only on Board for 1 book so you can talk trash all you want but be truthfull about what was going on.


Ok, the truth is John London had lousy ratings at Free FM and, just as he did at KNBR, he was an a-hole to work with and he got fired.
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Sorry you feel this way! I find him to be very nice to work with. KNBR has BAD RATINGS Period. And to judge someone off 1 book is just not looking at the whole story!

Sorry you had a bad go of it with John.
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Again, the truth is KNBR has very good ratings, top 2 overall and number one in afternoon drive with adult men, etc. John had dismal ratings at KNBR and even worse at Free FM. Your hero has been shown the door at both stations because of his foul attitude and his inability to make good decisions. John's whole story is that he hasn't attracted a successful major market audience in over a decade.
 
You know if we could just tap into the tremendous talent of RadioStarOne and Talking Furniture
I think radio in the Bay Area would take a giant leap. Such insight is rare. Actually sounds
like grumblings from failed weekend overnight board-ops:)
 
newsperson said:
What talk shows are not on the air in SFO? There are tons!

Remember San Francisco is a radio market just like anywhere else, it does not include San Jose, Santa Rosa or Sacramento. Just beacuse you can hear the show it is not part of the market. Based upon that here is a small list just from the top of my head:

CNN audio of headline news (on in San Jose) and it is boring!

Don and Mike Noon to 4:00 p.m.

Don Imus - 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. This is a cash fee program. I was up at 3:00 a.m. recently and tuned in Don Imus on CNBC. He is slow moving and the listener has to stay tunned through a lot of commercials. I am not sure a station would want to yeild to a New York program in a West Coast market. Plus who wants to pay cash for an out of market show when you could use that money to hire a local personality.

That makes me think of Mark and Brian for L.A. which would be available.

Is John and Jeff on Free-FM?

There are many right wing shows not on the air in SFO. The problem is that once you start picking up those shows it makes a statement about your station positioning. Whether or not that is the position statement the owners want to make.

Dr. Laura is not the only adivce show around. There is Dr. Joy Browne who has been around longer and is not as bitchy as Dr. Laura. However the bitchyness in Dr. Laura is what makes the program more compelling.

There are lots of weekend only non-political shows available.

The Clark Howard consumer advice show recently showed up on KYCY and therefore it is not available. Clark does sound like a nerd however his show is very good and he has a follwing.

It's Joey, Joey, the Joey Reynolds show is available and may show up on KTRB. The other Pappas station, KMPH runs Joey live weekenights begining at 10:00 p.m.
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Yes, but there are no GOOD shows available. Weekends? All brokered. Bet on it.

Neal Boortz is a joke; a complete 180-degree difference for SF. As to Imus, old and haggerdy, and really not a cash program anymore. Air an hour of Phil Valentine and I'm sure they'll give him to you for free.
 
Talking Furniture said:
jestin said:
Talking Furniture said:
The ratings at Free may have been bad but they were posting ratings when he was with them. They were a NEW station also. John was only on Board for 1 book so you can talk trash all you want but be truthfull about what was going on.


Ok, the truth is John London had lousy ratings at Free FM and, just as he did at KNBR, he was an a-hole to work with and he got fired.
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Wow what did he do to you? He is not MY "HERO" i just now how to respect people. Sorry your so bitter! Maybe you outa go find something you can support instead of dwelling on people you hate.

KNBR # 2 overall.... LOL You must work there and get the "inside" #'s

Sorry you feel this way! I find him to be very nice to work with. KNBR has BAD RATINGS Period. And to judge someone off 1 book is just not looking at the whole story!

Sorry you had a bad go of it with John.
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Again, the truth is KNBR has very good ratings, top 2 overall and number one in afternoon drive with adult men, etc. John had dismal ratings at KNBR and even worse at Free FM. Your hero has been shown the door at both stations because of his foul attitude and his inability to make good decisions. John's whole story is that he hasn't attracted a successful major market audience in over a decade.
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"Wow what did he do to you? He is not MY "HERO" i just now how to respect people. Sorry your so bitter! Maybe you outa go find something you can support instead of dwelling on people you hate.

KNBR # 2 overall.... LOL You must work there and get the "inside" #'s

Sorry you feel this way! I find him to be very nice to work with. KNBR has BAD RATINGS Period. And to judge someone off 1 book is just not looking at the whole story!

Sorry you had a bad go of it with John."


Look, I don't hate John London. I've never met him. Never worked at the same station. But, as a radio listener and someone who knows a little bit about the business, I call a spade a spade. London is a mediocre talent at best. His successes are years gone by. He has failed at his 2 recent Bay Area opportunities. He created internal problems for both KNBR and Free FM with his bad attitude and paranoia. Those are the facts. You like him? Fine. But you need to be able to hear an opinion on the folly of hiring him as something besides a personal attack. On him or you. I support good radio when I hear it. I'm still waiting to hear John London do good radio in San Francisco.

And, my numbers aren't "inside," whatever that means. They're published Arbitron numbers. I know you hate to have a few facts screw up a good whine, but KNBR has pretty good numbers in the demographics that they sell. Deal with it.
 
doublecashkgb said:
You know if we could just tap into the tremendous talent of RadioStarOne and Talking Furniture
I think radio in the Bay Area would take a giant leap. Such insight is rare. Actually sounds
like grumblings from failed weekend overnight board-ops:)
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I prefer to not work weekends. ;D
 
KJCB said:
Neal Boortz is a joke; a complete 180-degree difference for SF. As to Imus, old and haggerdy, and really not a cash program anymore. Air an hour of Phil Valentine and I'm sure they'll give him to you for free.
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He has quite the following in a few markets, especially Atlanta (not surprising since he's based there.)

Call me crazy (everyone else does) but someone who's completely politically wrong for a market should be good to stir the puddin' a little. ::)
 
Talking Furniture: what do you know about numbers, do you even
know how to read an Arbitron? Or do you read the 12+ figures?
 
RE: Doublecashkgb

You know if we could just tap into the tremendous talent of RadioStarOne and Talking Furniture
I think radio in the Bay Area would take a giant leap. Such insight is rare. Actually sounds
like grumblings from failed weekend overnight board-ops:)

Doublecashkgb, Thanks for the love! Gee, its great to know that I can touch your heart so well! Sorry if the
truth hurts but I know crappy radio when I hear it. Thank god for KGO 810 AM! Why? Local, Local, Local, and did I mention Local? There's nothing like it in the world and KTRB AM is going to be nothing but a flash in the pan! Sure it will have its 10 minutes of fame and then fade, fade, fade, fade................
 
Zach said:
KJCB said:
Neal Boortz is a joke; a complete 180-degree difference for SF. As to Imus, old and haggerdy, and really not a cash program anymore. Air an hour of Phil Valentine and I'm sure they'll give him to you for free.
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He has quite the following in a few markets, especially Atlanta (not surprising since he's based there.)

Call me crazy (everyone else does) but someone who's completely politically wrong for a market should be good to stir the puddin' a little. ::)
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No, it's not his politics, as there are conservatives in the Bay Area and NorCal in general, but the fact that his delivery is based upon having grits in one side of his mouth and a chicken fried steak in the other.
 
Great, another "edgy" bunch of talkers. Free FM, KSFO, the Quake, KNEW...to a lesser extent, KGO, all trying to make it by being over-the-top in attitude and politics. It's getting pretty tired isn't it? Being screamed at, pandered to and besieged by bad jokes in attempt for the ever-elusive ratings bump. Now we get another station trotting out another line-up of big mouths. Oh well, I must say I am getting a little sick of Country Joe and the Fish and Janis Joplin. Good luck fellas!
 
Talking Furniture:

Great post! Thanks for making it more clear, sorry to sound like a jerk. I worked real hard to help get John back on the radio here. I respect your opinon and understand you thoughts, I hope you give John another chance when he returns.

Jestin
 
While I think the KTRB lineup is a collection of castoffs and syndicated space holders, it might just have a chance of beating Free FM. Any takers?
 
doublecashkgb said:
Talking Furniture: what do you know about numbers, do you even
know how to read an Arbitron? Or do you read the 12+ figures?
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Try me.
 
"While I think the KTRB lineup is a collection of castoffs and syndicated space holders, it might just have a chance of beating Free FM. Any takers?"

Probably a safe bet - but isn't that like saying the Ford Pinto outsold the Chevy Vega? Smart consumers didn't buy either of those junkers, and I doubt either station will be hot anytime soon.

I haven't heard Mancow since his Wild 107 days, but I thought he was funny and entertaining, though he did tend to take himself too seriously at times. But syndicated shows rarely do well in the Bay Area (exceptions - Stern, Limbaugh, and Schlesinger).
 
atwater kent said:
While I think the KTRB lineup is a collection of castoffs and syndicated space holders, it might just have a chance of beating Free FM. Any takers?
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I agree with you. I think KTRB has that chance to beat Free FM. Maybe even KQKE and KNEW. But not KGO or KSFO.
 
Any thought given that this is a stunt? Perhaps they fed us a line in the media?? Just a thought to stir the pot.

-Timmy
 
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