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KTVT (FT. WORTH) FACILITY CHANGE ON 11/26/2012

Just curious.. do you think we'll need to rescan to get the new channel 19 facility? I just didn't know if there would be some discreet difference our TV's would see.. but we wouldn't.
 
tested said:
Just curious.. do you think we'll need to rescan to get the new channel 19 facility? I just didn't know if there would be some discreet difference our TV's would see.. but we wouldn't.
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The only way I can envision the necessity for a rescan is if your tuner is using the soon-to-be-gone RF-11. Otherwise, RF-19 will be nearly the same. In fact the power goes up a notch from 750 to 1000 kW. The location difference from the current Highway 67 (near Cedar Hill High School) to the Tar Road site, just a couple miles south, is negligible.
 
I'm hopeful this will improve my reception of KXII on RF 12. Most folks won't see any difference, but I'm just a bit too far outside KXII's coverage area, and anything that could improve the S/N ratio will likely help some.

Incidentally, this is an amusing misprint on KTVT's license application: 0009018193 kW

9 GW? That's one powerful station! Also, who's this "19" company that made their Model 1000 antenna? ;)
 
In the address bar, where it says form=2 or whatever, change to form=347 and everything appears right. Looks like a mismatch between what was filed and what the FCC site is trying to display. I've seen it happen before.

- Trip
 
tripinva said:
In the address bar, where it says form=2 or whatever, change to form=347 and everything appears right. Looks like a mismatch between what was filed and what the FCC site is trying to display. I've seen it happen before.

- Trip
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They seem to have it fixed now.
 
CBS has this notice up on the KTVT/KTXA website now.

My only quibble is that it should say OTA viewers may need to rescan, not will need to rescan. Most viewers won't know for sure until it happens.

Nitpick: the "transmitter" isn't one million watts; it's a bit over 75,000 watts. It's the antenna that makes it appear as a million-watt signal. But nobody but us TV geeks cares about details like that :D
 
Sometime during the early morning hours of Monday 26 November 2012, KTVT turned off the RF-11 facility. The Dallas-Ft. Worth market now has only two stations operating on VHF: WFAA/8 on RF-8 and KFWD/52 on RF-9. As I post this, I'm not certain if KTVT is transmitting from their new location on Richland South, the Tar Road site which is a few miles south of the main Cedar Hill cluster.
 
Bob E. Nelson said:
... I'm not certain if KTVT is transmitting from their new location on Richland South, the Tar Road site which is a few miles south of the main Cedar Hill cluster.
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Bob,

I made 16 measurements of signal level average power with the SLM1456 for DFW stations:

Four measurements for each time/date:

- Yesterday, Nov 25 (at Noon, and again at 3:30 PM)
- Today, Nov 26 (at Noon and again at 3:30 PM)

There was a set of 4 measurements for each of the four times.

Each of the 4 measurements were averaged and compared against respective date/time.

The measurements showed a drop in power of ~0.5 dB, but that is not within statistical significance.

Today, the power level here, of KTVT, within measurement error, was the same as yesterday.
 
I noticed that RF 11 was off the air around when I checked around 10:30 this morning. I couldn't really tell any signal difference on RF 19 since I have generally gotten that one at 100% at my home in Plano.

I'm curious if they actually got a lot of calls on their phone bank today.
 
tripelo said:
Today, the power level here, of KTVT, within measurement error, was the same as yesterday.
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My results are much more dramatic but I'll discount it (for now) due to possible atmospheric enhancement. A number of readings (more than 15) made from last month varied between 22.2-23.7 dBmV. I did 5 tonight and the raw POWER measurements ranged from 25.4-26.5 dBmV.
 
JHBrandt said:
My only quibble is that it should say OTA viewers may need to rescan, not will need to rescan. Most viewers won't know for sure until it happens.
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One of my DTVPal DVRs already had RF19 in the Ch 11 place, but the other one was using RF11 so no Ch 11 there when I tuned to it, No signal. On one I simply deleted the dead channel, the other I deleted both 11 and 70 and did a Add New Channels scan and it put 11 in it's proper place. All OK now.

On my Zenith converter boxes I just deleted the dead Ch 11 since those boxes would show two Ch 11s on RF 11 and 19.
 
In anticipation of this day, I'd long ago deleted RF 11 from any of my receivers that picked up both. As it happens, all the others had stored RF 19, so nothing changed for me yesterday.

It didn't help reception of KXII at my home yesterday, but I'll keep checking throughout the week and see if any change is noticeable.
 
You'd think this topic would be over and done with. But the FCC's TV query recently started listing KTVT's old channel 11 license and construction permit again. ???

Is that just an error, or is KTVT actually thinking about restarting the simulcast? :eek:
 
Maybe with the upcoming FCC TV spectrum auction, KTVT is restaking a claim on VHF? Then again seems I read they want channels 36 (600 mhz) and above this go-round.
 
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