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kvet free texas music series sound

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jras20

On top of everything else that is wrong with KVET, now the kvet free texas music series sound, sounds like they just put a cheap mike up, hardly even worth listening to. It use to sound really good at Hills.
 
Yawn......... this whole KVET bashing thing is so old at this point. If you don't dig the station anymore... then move on already. Jesus H. Werewolf! ** Insert Evil Laugh Here and Here **
 
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
 
Crow is right, the anti-KVET sour grapes on this board are comically old.

However, to explain the problem at the Josh Abbott show: we use a mix of a feed from the front of house console and direct microphones capturing the main PA for our broadcast of the show. Typically this is a house console run by Nutty's house sound guys, but in this case the band had brought in a newfangled digital board that works from various profiles of mix settings, and apparently the band's sound guy switched the board just prior to the show to a prearranged profile that did not include an outgoing feed for us. So, we ended up with only a mic signal for the broadcast, despite our best efforts to fix it. This is a scheme that we have only recently adopted and yes, we're still working out bugs.

I will say that you've got a pretty badass incompetent jukebox when you're drawing between 2,000 and 3,000 people to the majority of your weekly shows with supposedly niche-genre acts. Josh's show was at capacity with over 4,000. PPM aside, these shows are packed with happy-faced fresh new P1's...and clients happy to observe KVET at work. Life is good.

Chris
 
MozeMan said:
I will say that you've got a pretty badass incompetent jukebox when you're drawing between 2,000 and 3,000 people to the majority of your weekly shows with supposedly niche-genre acts. Josh's show was at capacity with over 4,000. PPM aside, these shows are packed with happy-faced fresh new P1's...and clients happy to observe KVET at work.
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Any free show at the Nutty Brown will attract a good crowd. They've been filling their amphitheater quite nicely on their own with paying crowds for many years. Crowd shots from those shows are posted on nuttybrown.com.
 
these boards crack me up :) It's absolutely amuzing to read all of the opinions about KVET... keep it going!! :) What else is wrong with it? I can't for the life of me figure out why 350,000 people are even listening to it with everything I read here?? I don't get it?
 
Well the only time now that I listen to KVET is on the free texas music series, I might every now and then tune into the road house, other than that I don't tune in at all any more. I listened to the series tonight, it sounds better.
 
Wow Fred, how amazingly cynical of you. Nutty Brown has been a loyal and satisfied KVET advertiser for the entire time they have been throwing big shows out there. We have a GREAT relationship with them, and the shows out there on Wednesdays are like great big family reunions for us. KVET has been involved with just about all of those big NBC crowds you refer to, certainly all of the country shows which are in the vast majority. We've also been involved in supporting them with their ongoing quarrels with disgruntled neighbors. It is a partnership on many levels.

What you're more broadly insinuating here, perhaps subconsciously, is that radio advertising doesn't work. That people will find the products and services they want all on their own - why bother with radio? They'll just look it up on Facebook or something right? Extraordinary cynicism that really surprises me coming from you. That you would seek to remove KVET's influence from the success that Nutty Brown has enjoyed, especially regarding the Series, truly amazes me.

Jras20: thanks for the props on TMS and Roadhouse, the new broadcast scheme worked out very well for Stoney tonight.
 
Well, it's not just Fred ;D.

Dallasboyz...I really think there are a core of former KVET listeners to the morning show (myself included) who simply do not like the direction the station has gone since the departure of Allred. I do know that a station that once gave us local news and opinion (valid or not!) on an excellent show now plays music that I can hear anywhere. It's like all the personality has been sucked out of the on-air product and I don't like it.

Now...as you've said before...if more people want this product than wanted the previous one, so be it. But that doesn't mean it's a good thing that people who once gave us stimulating conversation about the local community have been neutered at best, fired at worst.

Oh, and apologies for any offense that may have been taken by my "jukebox" remark up above. I've run live audio in a similar setting, and it's hell when things go wrong. My compliments...and thanks...to anyone who runs live audio in a concert setting. Thousands of semi-drunk patrons can make it a ... challenging ... experience.

Mike N.
 
Accepted. This too will be taken cynically by some on this board, but believe me when I say that we are doing our darnedest to move KVET into the future as the best station it can be...not an easy job with such a long history and well-set notions among long-time loyalists about what it's supposed to be.

Chris
 
Well, it's not just KVET, though you might not think that by this board ;D.

I personally have a LOT of issues with the concept that Clear Channel, Cumulus, and the other big operators have for radio in the 21st Century. Fire the old crew, run it cheap off the bird and go for the quick buck. Not every station's like this, of course. But far too many are. So you'll have to forgive my/our skepticism...and the fact that I am/we are fast to slam the corporate overlords when something does go bump.

Say...is Gil Garcia still with KVET/CC?
 
Speaking of the future of radio, I heard an HD Radio spot where the "testimonial" said she listened to radio instead of her iPod or a cable TV music channel because she "wants to stay connected" with the world she lives in. Ironically, it ran during a voice-tracked radio show. How connected can that be?
 
And that's the great lie....they try to make it sound local and this poor soul was fooled (assuming it was a legitimate testimonial). But in reality, all she had was someone else's iPod.
 
fredcantu said:
Speaking of the future of radio, I heard an HD Radio spot where the "testimonial" said she listened to radio instead of her iPod or a cable TV music channel because she "wants to stay connected" with the world she lives in. Ironically, it ran during a voice-tracked radio show. How connected can that be?
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News 8 is almost all pre-recorded too Fred... are you able to connect with those local stories even though they're not "live"? Or because you're on the "inside" and know it's taped, make you unable to absorb the news/content in any form because you know it's being played back and not being done the actual, very second you're watching it?
 
When you see the same "live shot" repeat even outsiders know its recorded. At least News 8 is monitored so it stays up to date. Outdated stories are removed, new stories are put their place. How does a voice-tracked show handle last minute changes. Maybe they're a scandal behind in celeb news. Thanks to Twitter and Facebook, listeners know if you're up to date.
 
Voicetracking is just another method of getting voice content on the air and it is as good or as bad, or as "connected", as the talent takes time and effort to make it. It is a tool that some use to be lazy, and others use to be efficient.
 
fredcantu said:
When you see the same "live shot" repeat even outsiders know its recorded. At least News 8 is monitored so it stays up to date. Outdated stories are removed, new stories are put their place. How does a voice-tracked show handle last minute changes. Maybe they're a scandal behind in celeb news. Thanks to Twitter and Facebook, listeners know if you're up to date.
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There is NO difference between News 8 or "YNN" recording or voice tracking. Actually voice tracking allows you to make sure the break is it's "best" it can be. How many times when you were live have you said "should have done ..." Voice tracking allows it. It's a part of technology that should be utilized, not downplayed or dismissed because of opinion (that's by the way a bit old school).
 
MozeMan said:
Voicetracking is just another method of getting voice content on the air and it is as good or as bad, or as "connected", as the talent takes time and effort to make it. It is a tool that some use to be lazy, and others use to be efficient.
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But generally lazy....and cheap. If it wasn't designed as a money saving (read job killing) tool, we wouldn't have it. But that has precious little to do with this thread. At any rate anyone still in the business who's trying to make an understaffed station sound worth a d**n deserves 1) our thanks and 2) all the help they can get!
 
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