Today, while driving on the 101 on the west side, I noticed that the signal of KWSS 106.7 was loud and clear. I notice they have filed an application to operate from Shaw Butte on 107.5, but their licensed 106.7 facility is at what appears to be a church at 28th Street and Cactus, which would technically be blocked from covering the west side by Shaw Butte. I'm not being critical of the station, I'm just asking if there is a technical exception that allows them west valley coverage?
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KWSS-LP questions
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Don't know how a move to 107.5 FM will help their signal in the valley. Right now, throughout much of the valley, 107.5 is occupied by KHYT from Tucson. That is, of course, unless you're traveling over by the Scottsdale Six Drive-in, where you may just hear the audio from your favorite Hollywood movie! ;D
On a side note, I've often wondered why there isn't a station occupying 96.5 FM. Seems to be a pretty open signal with the closest transmitters on 96.5 coming from Show Low and Douglas. These two signals are far enough away to warrant some sort of station on 96.5. In addition, 96.5 only faces adjacent interference from 96.3, KSWG from Wickenburg, which is a class C3 station and not afforded the same adjacent channel protection as a class C (i.e. KMXP, KOOL). 96.7 is left empty to protect adjacent channel class C MIX 96.9. 96.5 would be a great frequency location for a Phoenix-based station, possibly a lower-power class C3 or C2 station from the east valley, which would then protect adjacent channel KSWG on 96.3. On the other hand, 96.5 is my go-to frequency for my FM transmitters (XM, IPOD, etc.) as I bet it is for many people in the valley. Thus, losing 96.5 to a new station would hurt finding a clear FM frequency for these personal FM transmitters. Still, I think the benefits outweigh the losses.
Does anyone know if the FCC has even had a proposal for a Phoenix area station on 96.5? Does anyone think this could happen? ??? Seems like a good idea to me!
On a side note, I've often wondered why there isn't a station occupying 96.5 FM. Seems to be a pretty open signal with the closest transmitters on 96.5 coming from Show Low and Douglas. These two signals are far enough away to warrant some sort of station on 96.5. In addition, 96.5 only faces adjacent interference from 96.3, KSWG from Wickenburg, which is a class C3 station and not afforded the same adjacent channel protection as a class C (i.e. KMXP, KOOL). 96.7 is left empty to protect adjacent channel class C MIX 96.9. 96.5 would be a great frequency location for a Phoenix-based station, possibly a lower-power class C3 or C2 station from the east valley, which would then protect adjacent channel KSWG on 96.3. On the other hand, 96.5 is my go-to frequency for my FM transmitters (XM, IPOD, etc.) as I bet it is for many people in the valley. Thus, losing 96.5 to a new station would hurt finding a clear FM frequency for these personal FM transmitters. Still, I think the benefits outweigh the losses.
Does anyone know if the FCC has even had a proposal for a Phoenix area station on 96.5? Does anyone think this could happen? ??? Seems like a good idea to me!
asugeorge1 said:
Doesn't the Scottsdale Six also use 105.1? Any others?
They should move that talk 96.1 to 96.5 so I can get KLPX in my car again in the EV. While they're at it, how about getting KWSS-LP a clear signal in Mesa? Best station since KUKQ, but it seems to come in everywhere BUT here. :-\
fmag said:
Plus, in the far east valley, 106.9 is a KJZZ repeater.
fmag said:
"Full-service" stations take precedent over LPFM's as well as translators, or so I thought. The owner of the 99.3 translator on Shaw Butte has prevented KMZQ-FM in Payson from moving closer to the Valley.
Speaking of which, the KTLW translator on the White Tanks does show that height and line-of-sight have advantage over wattage, since it starts to battle with the new KVIT around Tempe. Note to KVIT: Usery may be a good spot for a booster signal once the ink is dry on the main license.
Eric Stein said:
Which begs the question, why is the translator still "squatting" on 99.3 when there's a
real station that, for better or worse, wants to move in?
Is the FCC so inept that they can't--or won't--enforce its own rules?
That 106.9 translator running KJZZ is located in the mountains above Globe-Miami. I've never heard it in Mesa. Gotta have the required separation from KDVA 106.9 in Buckeye and KVVA 107.1 in A.J.
Mark Andrews said:
Pinal Peak?
Mark Andrews said:
I think I picked it up a bit in Queen Creek or Gold Canyon.
oldiesfan6479 said:
Good question. They're nabbing pirates in New Jersey, but don't have the manpower to go after stations in Arizona operating outside of their licensed parameters, which seems to be the case with KWSS-LP. It seems more like the laxed rules of Mexico's SCT. Sure, they've been looking to improve their signal for years now, but they should do it the legal way, even if it takes 24 months to get approval from the FCC.
In the meantime, they should do some guerrilla-style marketing to promote their Internet stream. With all the smart phones that can stream online radio, they shouldn't have a problem.
One slight correction, KWSS-LP is looking to move to 95.9 on Shaw Butte, not 107.5 as I mentioned earlier.
Eric Stein said:
Is North Mountain the one that's seen from ASU West? The mountain that Cactus runs into at 19th Ave?
Eric Stein said:
If that's true, what's going to happen to KKLD?
That station plays more traditional oldies than KOOL and consistently garners ratings in the valley, even though it's a station targeted toward Prescott and Cottonwood. It has a pretty decent signal throughout Phoenix, especially the west valley. If KWSS is moving a translator to 95.9, then that really surprises me.I love your current below-the-line plea, KLL!
Milpitas can't be that exciting this time of year.
Milpitas can't be that exciting this time of year.
North Mountain facilities would be due north on 2nd St and Peoria, if they were extended. The facilities are a tight complex, and approached from 7th St. as it goes over the mountains.
Shaw Butte facilities are scattered around Cactus and 15th Ave, if both were extended. They are approached from Central Ave trailhead on the north side of the mountain via a long dirt road.
Many more towers at Shaw Butte, as can be seen on Google maps when you zoom in on the satellite photo.
Shaw Butte facilities are scattered around Cactus and 15th Ave, if both were extended. They are approached from Central Ave trailhead on the north side of the mountain via a long dirt road.
Many more towers at Shaw Butte, as can be seen on Google maps when you zoom in on the satellite photo.
I've known a few volunteers over at the LPFM since they have started, all I can say is their faced with loosing their channel because of 106.9 and also that the manager is in constant contact with the FCC's Jim Bradshaw almost weekly because of the unusual situation of the encroachment. Don't know the particulars but there are some kind of waivers in place as they try to resolve the problem, it may be premature to imply its not legal when their constantly corresponding with the commission. LPFMs have strange rules when moving facilities other than spacing they have distance restrictions per move, so it sometimes required more than one application, to more than one location to more than one channel to end up where it wants to be.
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