KYOT - New Format A Bummer!

[johndavis]

I've heard Whitney Houston's "Greatest Love of All" a couple times already this week, and not even mainstream AC stations touch this anymore. Will they find their (up) tempo?

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Some of the Sade tunes really seem out of place, too.

The tightest and most mainstream-sounding Mega's ever been was when they became "Mega" under Carey Edwards in '01.

Carey did a great job with little to no resources at his disposal.

 

[only1moore]

...or KYOT picking up that mess of a show Art Laboe does every night.

Man, they pitched that show to me hard at Kiss 1230. I'll hand it to him, he never gives up!

That I'd be worried about, since Laboe is also heard on KYOT's sister station KHHT/Los Angeles. Anything is possible at this point.

 

[michael hagerty]

...or KYOT picking up that mess of a show Art Laboe does every night.

Man, they pitched that show to me hard at Kiss 1230. I'll hand it to him, he never gives up!

That I'd be worried about, since Laboe is also heard on KYOT's sister station KHHT/Los Angeles. Anything is possible at this point.

Including Rick Dees in the morning?

 

[EricStein]

Man, they pitched that show to me hard at Kiss 1230. I'll hand it to him, he never gives up!

That I'd be worried about, since Laboe is also heard on KYOT's sister station KHHT/Los Angeles. Anything is possible at this point.

Laboe is still popular among English-speaking Hispanics, especially in Southern California. Even the "gold standard" of the format, Magic 92.5 San Diego, airs his Sunday night show. Personally, I never understood his appeal, and this goes back to the days that KPTY carried him.

Mega still might have the advantage of keeping him, since they carry his weeknight show as well. I think they're the only ones outside of KHHT and Laboe's own KOKO in Fresno that does so.

 

[michael hagerty]

Man, they pitched that show to me hard at Kiss 1230. I'll hand it to him, he never gives up!

That I'd be worried about, since Laboe is also heard on KYOT's sister station KHHT/Los Angeles. Anything is possible at this point.

Laboe is still popular among English-speaking Hispanics, especially in Southern California. Even the "gold standard" of the format, Magic 92.5 San Diego, airs his Sunday night show. Personally, I never understood his appeal, and this goes back to the days that KPTY carried him.

Art is a Southern California institution. He understood, respected and popularized Hispanic pop culture (one of the few Anglos to do so), and he's been a constant forever. The man has been on the air in L.A. for more than 55 years and has never re-invented himself. The roots are deep. He has name recognition with four generations of SoCal Latinos. That's the appeal. He's family. And he's spent more than half a century building that. It helps that there's a greater appreciation for "Old School" among young Southern California Latinos than there is for "Oldies" among young Anglos.

 

[2Son]

I would like KYOT or Mega to sound a little more like WMIA in Miami - http://tunein.com/radio/939-MIA-s3023/

 

[XMportable]

I like their sound, although I could go without the DISCO (ex. THE BEEGEES) tunes. I would like them more if they added in a mix of the new soul sound of today also and keep the old school hits as they have them. New schools sound of Anthony David, Marsha Ambrosiu, Raheem Devaughn, Fantasia, or Charlie Wilson. There is a whole new school that is going back to the classic soul sound. Try :
http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/WENNAM.pls[/url] During the day they play some great soul. However, they tend to break off at night & weekend to play old school hiphop. Their regular daytime mix is a charm.

 

[Hamp]

I think it is about time that the Phoenix market got a more Urban Adult styled format. If the African-American population continues to grow in the valley KYOT will probably evolve into an Urban AC format.

Maybe KYOT can also keep their Smooth Jazz roots by having a Sunday Smooth Jazz show. 10am to 3pm would probably be a good timeslot.

 

[landtuna]

I think it is about time that the Phoenix market got a more Urban Adult styled format. If the African-American population continues to grow in the valley KYOT will probably evolve into an Urban AC format.

The Black population of the Phoenix metro area is something around 5% of the 3 million people living here. I realize that people of other ethnic groups like "urban" music but the number is probably still very small in total. Programming to that niche seems insanity for a station that is not otherwise ethnic-directed. How could an urban format possibly gather more listeners than one which covers a much larger audience?

KYOT's format change (and loss of a well-known brand) still makes absolutely no sense to me (unless, of course, the suits read in the trades the immediate disappearance of the Smooth Jazz format and panicked).

 

[Hamp]

I think it is about time that the Phoenix market got a more Urban Adult styled format. If the African-American population continues to grow in the valley KYOT will probably evolve into an Urban AC format.

The Black population of the Phoenix metro area is something around 5% of the 3 million people living here. I realize that people of other ethnic groups like "urban" music but the number is probably still very small in total. Programming to that niche seems insanity for a station that is not otherwise ethnic-directed. How could an urban format possibly gather more listeners than one which covers a much larger audience?

KYOT's format change (and loss of a well-known brand) still makes absolutely no sense to me (unless, of course, the suits read in the trades the immediate disappearance of the Smooth Jazz format and panicked).

That's why KYOT's format is "Rhythmic" AC rather than straight ahead Urban AC BECAUSE of the population numbers. You can appeal to a small segment that is looking for something more Adult R&B which they aren't finding on the dial in Phoenix, but at the same time still appeal to the masses. Besides, there are more African-American adults in the valley than you think. Doesn't it make sense to get their advertising dollars as well??? They may not be large in number (yet), but they are still an audience share.

 

[XMportable]

I think it is about time that the Phoenix market got a more Urban Adult styled format. If the African-American population continues to grow in the valley KYOT will probably evolve into an Urban AC format.

The Black population of the Phoenix metro area is something around 5% of the 3 million people living here. I realize that people of other ethnic groups like "urban" music but the number is probably still very small in total. Programming to that niche seems insanity for a station that is not otherwise ethnic-directed. How could an urban format possibly gather more listeners than one which covers a much larger audience?

KYOT's format change (and loss of a well-known brand) still makes absolutely no sense to me (unless, of course, the suits read in the trades the immediate disappearance of the Smooth Jazz format and panicked).


SmoothJazz was more of niche than Urban AC. If you look at statistics Urban AC is one of the most listened to formats in the US. This could ONLY be accomplished by many white & hispanic listeners( We only make up 12% of the total US). Also, if hiphop can cross ethnic lines so can soul and it already has a history of that here in the US. One of these station Mega or KYOT should add new soul to their mix. It would only benefit the one that will take that change , because that will cause at least a 5% uptick over the competition...LOL

 

[EricStein]

This morning while listening, I heard the jock take a jab at Mega's "rimshot" status by saying "our listeners are ecstatic that there's no static" and "you can hear us loud and clear."

Let's see if Mega has what it takes now that they're considered the scrappy underdog.

 

[davideduardo]

The Black population of the Phoenix metro area is something around 5% of the 3 million people living here.

Of the 3.7 million in the 6+ population of the market, 182 thousand are Black.

 

[wdb2003]

I been listening too for awhile. Some songs are good some are too slow. Here's a idea Drop those BA jocks and focus on local talent or other VT jocks that fit the new music. They can keep the smooth format for Sunday mornings with Allen Keepler.

 

[azradiomkt]

KYOT seems too slow. While they do play some songs that you might consider "old school", while they evolve, they still share alot of A/C songs. I'd think they'd be aiming at some of the numbers at KOOL rather than KAJM. Let's see....go after the station that has a 7.2, or a 1.7? Doh?!?!?

 

[Hamp]

The Black population of the Phoenix metro area is something around 5% of the 3 million people living here.

Of the 3.7 million in the 6+ population of the market, 182 thousand are Black.

David, I probably would have guessed a little less than that. Probably around 120,000 to 150,000. Actually, the official census lists the Phoenix Metro at about 4.1 million, not 3.7.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Honestly, I thought I was the only one who secretly liked the new KYOT format. Normally, during the day, I turn off the radio if I don't go out. However, the times I had it on KYOT, I noticed that I'd have it on all day and would never have the urge to turn off the radio. Hmmm.. I guess I must love the urban ac sound more than I thought. If they are going to go urban ac then they should have a contemporary or old school r&b dj mixshow on Friday or Saturday nights. They could also use a dancehall/reggae specialty show on Sunday evenings/nights or something.

As far as Energy coming back, ...that would be nice, but... for my own selfish reasons, I wouldn't mind if Energy didn't come back in Phoenix because I do not want anything that will make me regret moving out of state in three months, radio-wise. I guess it would be good for the rest of you who will still be here, but, ...not for me. If it does happen to come back right before or after I leave, I'd prefer not to know about it.

 

[XMportable]

2010 census has the total Phx pop. at 4.6 million and total black pop. at 259,008

 

[johndavis]

2010 census has the total Phx pop. at 4.6 million and total black pop. at 259,008

David is quoting the 6+ population, which is what Arbitron measures.

 

[Quattermass]

I recently came back to town and heard the new format...didn't like it...sent a note to the station and was told yes changes were made and to hear smooth jazz tune into the web site or HD Radio....The same thing was done here in New York City to CD 101.9. A slew of new music was mixed in and within 8 months it was gone, now a classic rock station....It's sad...I started listening to KHAM out of Prescott. But Smooth air personalities don't seem to have a tie to the music, like they are elsewhere...it's like listening to John Sterling call a Yankee game...he's there but the game he's calling isn't the one you're looking at....