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KYRK 104.1 (Houma) being "sold" back to Clear Channel

KYRK 104.1 was transferred to the Aloha Station trust a while back due to ownership regulations on media ownership in a market. With KYRK, the station was over the mark in New Orleans, however according to paperwork filed with the FCC, Aloha will move the station to the Baton Rouge market and will then , be able to "sell" KYRK back to Clear Channel.

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws...xt=25&appn=101282709&formid=314&fac_num=34528

My only question, is come January 11th, (which is the date the application speaks of), if we will hear the Rock of Baton Rouge or the Rock of New Orleans??!!!?? (Yes I know it's just legal maneuvering to keep KYRK)
 
Long shot here!!! KYRK goes Spanish that date... ;D We have 3 spanish stations now in BR.
 
You don't even want to joke about Clear Channel and Spanish. They decided Atlanta needed a Spanish station so they put the format on 3 of their signals almost simultaneously. I think they've since changed 2 stations back to English formats.

If Clear Channel has to technically call 104.1 a Baton Rouge station, the moniker "The Rock of Louisiana" would sound good... but no name will ever be better that "The Rock of New Orleans."

What other cities had (or still have) stations that went by "The Rock of (city)"?
 
poledo said:
What other cities had (or still have) stations that went by "The Rock of (city)"?

Wasn't that a line in WKRP in Cincinnati? That they were "the Rock of Cincinnati?" ;D

But any how, I don't expect any real changes on 104.1 as that station's still top 10 in both markets, however hopefully with seeing the numbers drop every book, they will readjust the format newer....

Also Poledo, CC don't surprise me none and if we had a more proven spanish audience (with changes on cell phone only families and such in the mix for the books ) they'd probably flip it I think in a heartbeat.
 
Since one spanish in BR is simulcasting Davidson's LaFabulosa WFNO, and the other simulacsting KGLA, CC may decide BR needs a local espanol. If they stay New Rock, weak sisters 104.5/104.9 could get beaten over signal strength. My wife thinks a station that plays all the music from various TV shows, like One Tree Hill, etc would be good. One, I don't think so, but has this been tried anywhere, and is there a format that probabally would be called TV New Rock if there was one? You do already hear groups like Fall Out Boy on New Rock stations.
 
Honestly, I haven't heard too much reference to "the Rock of New Orleans" on the station in over a year, aside from website mentions (the address is still therockofneworleans.com).
 
1. Why would they flip it? As said before, this is a legal move to keep the station within the CC family, and the format's doing fine ratings-wise, and it's certainly not costing much to put it on the air.

2. Calling it "The Rock of New Orleans" hasn't hurt in Baton Rouge...why would it start now? So what if it's in a different Arbitron market?

3. If it is a problem, just change the slogan to "The Rock of South Louisiana" - or, just drop the slogan altogether and call it 104.1. I would think the station's identity is well enough known now that dropping that (and changing the web address) wouldn't hurt much, if at all.

4. Just flip the legal ID around to include BR first, and then list New Orleans. (I doubt they'd still mention Houma. There's no need, right?) After all, Kiss FM did just that - and even had remotes in BR, back in the day.

In the end, we're all overanalyzing something that probably will end up being a change in the legal ID mention and a slogan change - after that, I'm with everyone else who says this will be a blip on a legal radar and no more.
 
This is what you call as the radio world turns many subplots and stories to be written.In this case however i dont really get whats happening. I mean i understand it from a legal perspective but as far as a format perspective i dont see anything with this that makes sense. Flipping it to god knows what? Please enlighten what is really happening. Because i cant make heads nor tails of it.
 
That's already being done at WFMF-HD2, but I guess that could make sense afterall. I just want to know if Louisiana Media is still pursuing a station for the Saints, everyone thought KYRK was the play.
 
mightynine said:
1. Why would they flip it? As said before, this is a legal move to keep the station within the CC family, and the format's doing fine ratings-wise, and it's certainly not costing much to put it on the air.

People were expecting to flip it only because of it's weak showing possibly but most of all move usually means format blow out.. not hard to connect the dots after seeing it so many times in so many markets. The difference here is the transmitter doesn't move one inch, as mighty nine said, it was a way to bring it back into the clear channel fold, however many thought it would be sold due to it's reception issues on portables in Baton Rouge and New Orleans

2. Calling it "The Rock of New Orleans" hasn't hurt in Baton Rouge...why would it start now? So what if it's in a different Arbitron market?

Actually, that comment started out as a joke by me, because in a world where the FCC actually policed their rulings, they would have to follow the move and have your ads and such focusing on the Baton Rouge metro area instead of New Orleans, but technically in a few weeks, you will have a station licensed to one metro area (non Arbitron, but Edison Media has done a few books in Houma/Thibodaux), aimed at one Arbitron metro area , with just enough mention of the Arbitron metro area you are assigned to satisfy the FCC .. In other words be prepared for a few more BR commercials , However I'm not certain if the weather alerts move to Baton Rouge (due to Arbitron) or stay with COL of Houma (which is New Orleans weather alerts)

3. If it is a problem, just change the slogan to "The Rock of South Louisiana" - or, just drop the slogan altogether and call it 104.1. I would think the station's identity is well enough known now that dropping that (and changing the web address) wouldn't hurt much, if at all.

The slogan was originally just a way to satisfy some purists for loosing WRNO , however it didn't do anything for it.. I'm surprised 104.1 doesn't change up and go more head to head with 104 the X with a new non geographical slogan

4. Just flip the legal ID around to include BR first, and then list New Orleans. (I doubt they'd still mention Houma. There's no need, right?) After all, Kiss FM did just that - and even had remotes in BR, back in the day.

Actually, you don't have to mention anyone in the legal ID except Houma which they have to as it's the city it's licensed to and takes a application to move it to another city and a justification on why (my guess is you'll see a few people try and block Clear Channel even if they tried).

How it's said doesn't really matter

In the end, we're all overanalyzing something that probably will end up being a change in the legal ID mention and a slogan change - after that, I'm with everyone else who says this will be a blip on a legal radar and no more.

I'm the one who brought it up as I said more as a joke than anything, as you have a station targeting one area and serving another (and it must be the 1990s KISS, cause during the Annette Wade era it didn't seem like anything existed past the St. John parish line. Big no no when half your listeners (from Baton Rouge) hear your DJ go, So where is Prairieville?)

Actually I see no changes, other than a way to get the station back in the clear channel fold... But I do agree with Johnny Marchese.. this one would basically lock out about 4 stations out of the saints radio network, as many major league teams are buying their home stations.
 
There are HD2 stations in Baton Rouge? I dont even know anyone that has an HD radio!
 
What is the range of an HD2 station? If I had an HD radio in Livingston could I pick it up?
 
smashedcd said:
What is the range of an HD2 station? If I had an HD radio in Livingston could I pick it up?

I think HD power is 1/10th of analog power, so the HD signal doesn't go all of the distance that the analog signal does.

That being said—in Livingston, KRVE would definitely come in for you. I think that with a good antenna pointed in the right direction, you could get 100.7, 101.5, and 102.5.
 
C Murder said:
What is the range of an HD2 station? If I had an HD radio in Livingston could I pick it up?

I think HD power is 1/10th of analog power, so the HD signal doesn't go all of the distance that the analog signal does.

That being said—in Livingston, KRVE would definitely come in for you. I think that with a good antenna pointed in the right direction, you could get 100.7, 101.5, and 102.5.
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Currently 1% of analog carrier, so for those named stations, about 1,000 watts ERP digital.. NAB has proposal to go to 10%
 
I can pick up KRVE-HD 1&2 solid eastward to I-12 at Airport Rd / Hammond in my car, same for WFMF-HD 1&2, when it works, currently not working Sunday 3PM. Also WSKR has HD, the only AM-HD I could find in South LA. Westward to Whiskey Bay is the range of all of BR's HD's.

Now Lafayette's KTDY-HD(No Substation) works in Denham Springs.
 
If I buy an HD radio for my truck do I need additional boxes? I seem to remember HD radios needing a box? Also how does 1210 sound in HD?
 
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